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Title: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: craigbarwick01 on Tuesday 27 January 15 13:08 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am searching for children of John Rigby b.1872 and Grace Ann Higgins b. 1875 who lived at Nile, Tasmania. From Grace Ann's obituary there were 12 children , but only shortened names were used, Jack, Gladys, Mattie, Keith, George, Merv, Allie, Connie, Dora, Fanny, Benard and Ray, I have traced some but have a few gaps.
Aubrey John (Jack) b. 26 Dec 1893
Gladys Maud b. 22 Dec 1894
Martha Eliza b. 17 April 1897
Reginald Keith b.13 Sept 1899
Mervin Edward Baden b. 26 Oct 1900
George Steven Mafeking b. about 1901
Allie ?
Connie ?
Dora ?
Francis Ella ( Fanny) ?
Bernard Garth ?
Douglas Raymond ? about 1922
I would appreciate any help if possible

regards
Craig
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 27 January 15 13:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Craig,

In case you don't have it, Aubrey enlisted for WW1, Douglas WW2, George Steven WW2, Bernard WW2 (P.O.W. Thailand) and some WW2 enlistments for what appear to be the sons of some of their siblings.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/

Aubrey was killed in action in 1917 in France

http://www.awm.gov.au/people/rolls/R1665268/

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22aubrey+john%22+rigby

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: Noells on Wednesday 28 January 15 00:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Craig

Found on a Family Tree on internet, so not sure if they are correct.

Constance Helen Rigby born 1909
Dora Jane Rigby born 1912
Zilla Frances Rigby born 1915

Noells

Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 28 January 15 01:10 GMT (UK)
http://www.myheritage.com/names/constance_rigby
Constance Helen Rigby born in 1909, to John Rigby and Grace Ann Rigby (born Higgins).
Constance married Ernest Albert Garcia. They had 2 children. Constance passed in 1961, at age 52.

Adding:
Death Ernest Garcia
.... Constance Garcia (widow), John and Timothy Garcia (sons), Messrs. C. and R. Rigby (brothers-in-law) and Mrs. E. Wright (sister-in-law).
Examiner 10 June1949 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52681646
Examiner 8June1949 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52681304
The Mercury 8June1949 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/26639558
Longford Cemetery http://www.northernmidlands.tas.gov.au/page/page.aspx?Page_id=335
Garcia, Constance Helen; date of burial 16/03/1961;unmarked; Christ Church (Longford)
Garcia, Ernest; Date of death 06/06/1949; date of service 08/06/1949A   82   Christ Church (Longford)   
Headstone: http://cemetery.midlandshost.net/images/New%202008/Christchurch%20-%20Longford/Section%20A/a082.jpg
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 28 January 15 01:48 GMT (UK)
http://www.geni.com/people/Reginald-Rigby/6000000014017593004
Reginald Keith Rigby born in 1899, to John Rigby and Grace Ann Higgins. Reginald passed away in 1969, at age 70
Reginald married Rebecca Maude ?
Estate Administration for Rebecca Maude Rigby 1953 (husband Reginald Keith Rigby) http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/61086419
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/61086432
In Memoriam http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/96273012

Son: Reginald Keith Rigby (jr) married Alma Grace Boon
RIGBY-BOON marriage:
North-Eastern Advertiser 7Jan1949 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/152207006
Examiner 8Jan1949 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52660964
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 28 January 15 03:37 GMT (UK)

Examiner 9 Mar 1934
marriage youngest daughter Francis Zilla....uncle W M RIGBY

Cornelian Bay   Frances Zilla WRIGHT crem 3 Mar 1984
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Thursday 29 January 15 00:44 GMT (UK)
Advocate 30Oct1945 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/69096951
The engagement is announced of Mollie Gwynn, only daughter of Mr. and Mis. Allan H. Bird, John street, East Devonport, to Bernard Garth (A.I.F., ex P.O.W.), son of Mrs. G. A. Rigby and the late Mr. J. A. Rigby, Nile, Tasmania.

Advocate 13Aug1947 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/69016046
MARRIAGE
RIGBY-BIRD-On April 19, 1947, at St. John's Church, Devonport, the wedding was solemnised by the Rev. L. F. Benjafield, Ulverstone, between Mollie Gwynn, only daughter of  Mr. and Mrs. A. H. Bird, John street, East Devonport, and Bernard Garth, son of Mrs. G. A.  Rigby and the late Mr.  J. A. Rigby, Nile, Tasmania.
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Thursday 29 January 15 00:47 GMT (UK)
Trove articles of Criminal Charges - Bernard Garth Rigby
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22Bernard+Garth+Rigby%22
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Thursday 29 January 15 00:52 GMT (UK)
http://eheritage.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/resources/detaile17e-2.html?ID=DFH_05782
Devonport Cemetery, General Section. Bernard Garth RIGBY . Died in 1961, aged 41yrs.

http://ryersonindex.net/search.php
RIGBY, Mollie Gwynn; Death notice; 03JUN2014, age 90, at Latrobe; Launceston Examiner 04JUN2014   
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Thursday 29 January 15 01:29 GMT (UK)
Examiner 2July1942 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/91497763
WAR PRISONERS
Rigby. Pte. Bernard G., son of Mrs. G. A. Rigby, Nile.
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Thursday 29 January 15 01:33 GMT (UK)
The Mercury 1June1946 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/26189369
ENGAGED  (photo of Beryl)
MISS BERYL JUNE KRAUSE, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. C. A. Krause, Lower Longley, whose engagement to Douglas Raymond Rigby (ex-AIF), youngest son of Mrs. G. A. Rigby and the late Mr. John Rigby, Nile, Tasmania, is announced.

RIGBY-KRAUSE wedding The Mercury 10 Dec1946 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/26373111
Beryl June (Krause) Rigby (wedding photo) http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Krause-Family-Tree-565

Birth of daughter 1947 The Mercury 27 Dec1947 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/26443034 and Examiner 24 Dec1947http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52618780
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: craigbarwick01 on Saturday 31 January 15 11:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you to all for the information, with your help I have traced all but one, I was hoping that the family tree that Noells mentioned might have contained Allie's actual name
regards
Craig
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 01 February 15 05:02 GMT (UK)
http://obituaries.themercury.com.au/notice/35042004
The Mercury on 12/04/2014
WRIGHT, Barry James. Loving son of Arthur George and Frances Zilla...

The Mercury on 11/04/2014
WRIGHT, Barry James. Passed away peacefully on April 10, 2014...
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 01 February 15 05:33 GMT (UK)
Just wondering if two Rigby daughters married WRIGHT?
"Mesdames E. and A. Wright"  named as daughters.
Francis Zilla married Arthur George WRIGHT, so she is Mesdame A. Wright.
Which RIGBY daughter is the wife of  E. WRIGHT (son-in-law)?

Adding: Examiner 4Jan1939 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52287123
Mr. and Mrs. Eric Wright are visiting Mrs. Wright's mother, Mrs. G. A. Rigby, Nile.

Examiner 5Oct1951 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52832149
Mrs. G. A. Rigby
THE funeral of  Mrs. Grace Ann Rigby, who died at a private hospital in Launceston on Wednesday, took place at the Nile Church of England Cemetery. Services at the church and graveside were conducted by the Rev. R. C. Brown. Chief mourners were Messrs. K., G., M., A., B. and R. Rigby (sons),  Mr. E. Wright (son-in-law), Mesdames  E. and A. Wright,  
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Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Sunday 01 February 15 14:26 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am searching for children of John Rigby...Grace Ann Higgins who lived at Nile, Tasmania. From Grace Ann's obituary there were 12 children , but only shortened names were used, Jack, Gladys, Mattie, Keith, George, Merv, Allie, Connie, Dora, Fanny, Benard and Ray, I have traced some but have a few gaps. Aubrey John (Jack) b. 26 Dec 1893 Gladys Maud b. 22 Dec 1894 Martha Eliza b. 17 April 1897 Reginald Keith b.13 Sept 1899 Mervin Edward Baden b. 26 Oct 1900 George Steven Mafeking b. about 1901 Allie ? Connie ? Dora ? Francis Ella ( Fanny) ? Bernard Garth ? Douglas Raymond ? about 1922 I would appreciate any help if possible
... I have traced all but one... Allie's actual name

Allie = Clarence - 5th born son.

Children are usually listed in birth order on the death notice the same as a death certificate.

Jack = Aubrey John 26/12/1893 EVANDALE #640/1894 RGD 33
Gladys = Gladys Maud 22/12/1894 EVANDALE #631/1895 RGD 33
Mattie = Martha Eliza 17/04/1897 EVANDALE #636/1897 RGD 33
Keith = Reginald Keith 13/09/1899 EVANDALE #587/1899 RGD 33
George = George Stephen Mafeking Edward Baden 26/10/1900 CLARENDON #2143
Merv = Mervyn Edward Baden 26/10/1900 bap.12/01/1908 EVANDALE #7294/1908 #RGD 32
George & Mervyn appear to be twins. Due to a possible error originally only one instead of two registrations were made. George Stephen/Mafeking Edward Baden. This was rectified when Mervyn was baptised in 1908 which gave the same birth date as George.
Allie = Clarence 29/01/1907 THE NILE #2422
Connie = Constance Helen 19/02/1909 CLARENDON #1532
Dora = Dora Jane 21/09/1912 Clarendon EVANDALE #3204
Fanny = Zilla Francie 23/07/1915 NILE #2164
Benard = Bernard Garth 27/05/1918 THE NILE #3750
Ray = Douglas Raymond 22/09/1922 CLARENDON
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: marce on Friday 17 February 17 00:13 GMT (UK)
Can anyone please help with the birth date and place of Mollie Gwynn Rigby, nee Bird. She married Bernard Garth Riby in 1947 and died recently in 2014 aged 90.
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: johngirl on Friday 17 February 17 04:49 GMT (UK)
Engagement Notice :

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68947134?

  Johngirl
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: judb on Friday 17 February 17 04:55 GMT (UK)
Obit for Martha Eliza DAVEY (nee RIGBY), August 1939 at Westbury lists the chief mourners (all men) who are her brothers, son-in-law, an uncle Mark RIGBY, and a cousin Maurice RIGBY.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/25619724

Engagement Notice for Mollie and Bernard, 1945.  Her father listed as Allan H BIRD, John street, East Devonport.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68947134

Marriage notice for Mollie Gwynn BIRD and Bernard Garth RIGBY, at Devonport, August 1947. 
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/69016046

A stillborn daughter, Dec 1948
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/69198661

Daughter, 1950
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/69307222

Can't see a birth for Mollie, but it's likely she was in her 20s when she married so her birth records are probably still embargoed publicly.

Judith
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: judb on Friday 17 February 17 05:07 GMT (UK)
From the engagement notice this looks to be Mollie's father.

Allan Horace BIRD, 84, b abt 1897
Died: 2 Feb 1981
Cemetery:   Devonport Cemetery, General Section

Possible marriage:
1917, registered and married Tasmania, p 0905
Allan Horace BIRD, Alice May CRUSE

Possible birth:
1896, Tasmania, registered at Longford, Tasmania
Allan Horace BIRD,
Birth Date:   30 Apr 1896
Father:   James Henry BIRD
Mother:   Emily BYE

Judith

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Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: judb on Friday 17 February 17 05:37 GMT (UK)
Possibly Mollie's mother - especially taking into account Alice May's mother's surname and Mollie's second forename:

Tasmania
Alice May CRUSE
Birth Date:   23 Dec 1898
Registration Year:   1899
Registration Place:   Lyell, Tasmania, Australia
Father:   Albert E Cruse
Mother:   Margaret Gwynne

Alice May BIRD is also buried at Devonport, died 5 April 1957, aged 59

Marriage of parents of Alice May CRUSE:
South Australia, 1896, p 680, vol 189, registered Adelaide
Albert Ernest CRUSE
Father's name:   John Owen Cruse
Spouse Name:   Margaret GWYNN
Spouse's Father's Name:   Robert Gwynn
Marriage Date:   30 Nov 1896
Marriage Place:   Res Of Albert Rowe Goodwood West

Possible birth for Ernest CRUSE (same person??)
Tasmania, 1864, registered at Longford, #1180
   Erest (sic) CRUSE
Birth Date:   14 Nov 1864
Father:   John Cruse
Mother:   Martha Frampton

Marriage of Ernest CRUSE's parents.
Tasmania, registered Launceston, 1843, #614
John CRUSE, Martha Frampton (sic)
Marriage Date:   02 Oct 1843

John CRUSE died 21 June 1889, aged 78, buried Methodist section of Longford cemetery.
Martha CRUSE died 17 July, 1912, aged 87, buried Methodist section of Longford cemetery.

I see some immigration details for these people - happy to transcribe if you would like them.

You would need to get some certificates to validate these suggestions.

Judith




Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: marce on Friday 17 February 17 22:22 GMT (UK)
Many thanks I had the wrong parents for Albert, would love immigration records please.
cheers
M
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: marce on Friday 17 February 17 22:31 GMT (UK)
I am missing the death date and burial of Albert Ernest Cruse, possibly buried with his wife at East Devonport? Can you please help with this...?
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: marce on Friday 17 February 17 22:59 GMT (UK)
The following notice was in the paper and I would like to know who died in 1930 related to Mrs A.H. Bird assuming it means Allan Horace Bird's wife Alice May nee Cruse. Can you help with this info please. Can't seem to find anything else to connect it with.


Examiner (Launceston, Tas. : 1900 - 1954), Tuesday 13 May 1930, page 1
THANKS Mrs. A. H. Bird wishes to thank all kind friends and relatives for letters, cards, telegrams, and floral tributes in her recent bereavement.
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: judb on Saturday 18 February 17 00:02 GMT (UK)
The Bereavement notice from Alice May BIRD may be in relation to the death of her mother, Margaret CRUSE (wife of Albert Ernest CRUSE) who died January 1930, aged 55.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51639338
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/84914709
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/84914676  Funeral notice further down in the same column.  Burial at general cemetery, Latrobe.

Can't see a death notice for Albert Ernest though.  See below.

In searching for the above I came across the marriage notice for Allan BIRD and Alice CRUSE
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/50935590

Judith
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: judb on Saturday 18 February 17 02:57 GMT (UK)
Electoral rolls have Albert Ernest CRUSE at Latrobe, Tasmania up to 1943 so it seems likely he died in the 1940s.

Here's his death notice which only uses the name Ernest CRUSE, not Albert.  ::) Given the mourners and family mentioned it seems that this is the correct person.
Died January 1944, buried at Latrobe cemetery, where his wife Margaret is.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/91417359
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68838034
Bereavement thanks:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68838057

As well as the birth record which I have already given there is a baptism record for an Ernest CRUSE

Ernest CRUSE,
Born: 14 Nov 1864 at Longford
Baptised: 22 Jan 1865 at Longford, Tasmania, Australia
Residence: 1864, Longford, Tasmania, Australia
Parents: John CRUSE, Martha CRUSE

Judith
Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: judb on Saturday 18 February 17 03:08 GMT (UK)
There is an on-line tree with a photo of the grave of John and Martha at Longford.
Transcription:
Methodist (Wesleyan) Cemetery, Longford, Tasmania, Australia.
IN memory of, JOHN CRUSE, Died June 21, 1889, Aged 78 Years,
and his Wife, MARTHA, Died 17 July 1912, Aged 87 Years,
and their Son, OWEN, Died 18 March 1892, Aged 39.

Will have a look for the immigration details later  :)

Judith



Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: judb on Saturday 18 February 17 07:23 GMT (UK)
Some immigration info:

A Martha FRAMPTON, 17, domestic servant, arrived on the Brankenmoor into Launceston 4 April, 1843, from London via Cork.  She was a Bounty immigrant.

There are a few suitable Martha FRAMPTONs in the UK making it difficult to work out which one would be the right person.

The image of the marriage record for John and Martha is available on Familysearch, but unfortunately there's no parent details for either. 
John is 29 and is on a Ticket of Leave; Martha is 19 and Free
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89CH-QDWV?mode=g&i=21&cc=2125029

There is also an image for the death record for John CRUSE
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9CH-H4DD?mode=g&i=145&cc=2125029

Judith

Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: judb on Saturday 18 February 17 08:02 GMT (UK)
John CRUSE was a convict.

from  Australian Convict Transportation Registers Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868
John Cruse
Vessel:   Waterloo
Convicted Date:   16 Oct 1834
Voyage Date:   18 Nov 1834
Colony:   Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land)
Place of Conviction:   Sussex, England

New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1841

John CRUSE, employed by Rev M? W? Davies, Norfolk Plains

Australia Convict Musters, 1846 and a similar entry for 1849
Convicted Sussex, ship Waterloo arr 1835, Conditional Pardon

I can't see him on the Criminal Registers.

This may be his baptism:
John Owen CRUSE
Baptism: 15 Dec 1811 at Hartfield, Sussex, England
Mother:   Mary Cruse

Judith

Title: Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
Post by: ckctas on Tuesday 21 March 17 22:29 GMT (UK)
Regarding Martha Frampton, (m. John Owen Cruse), I have her lineage going back to 1679 in Walton, Somerset.  She also had a brother Charles Frampton, who emigrated as well, and settled & died in Victoria.  I have photos of both John and Martha Cruse, and some of the descendants if anyone is interested.  Mary Cruse, the mother of John Owen also came to Australia, and she died in South Australia in 1871.