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Title: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 03 February 15 03:58 GMT (UK)
I am wondering if there is anyone on here who was related to the above?

My aunt recalls my grandmother mentioning the MacFarlane/Lang's were related whenever the lorry would pass by.

However, I would guestimate the time of this being mentioned to be c1938 - 1948

What ideally I was hoping for was for someone to have a tree whereby they could do a quick scan to see if any of my family names appear in their tree as my aunt has no idea how the family was related  ???

Annie
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: deebel on Saturday 07 February 15 01:05 GMT (UK)
Records of MacFarlane Lang & Co Ltd, 1817-1948, biscuit manufacturers, Glasgow, Scotland are held by Glasgow University Archives
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 07 February 15 01:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks dee,

I have a few things re the business but I'm hoping to find relatives to establish how my family was related  :-\

Annie
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 07 February 15 18:22 GMT (UK)
Name changes for the company and timings might give clues (in the absence of anyone popping up with a family tree). See:

The business began as Langs bakery in 1817, before becoming MacFarlane Lang in 1841. The first biscuit factory opened in 1886, and changed its name to MacFarlane Lang & Co in the same year. The business then opened a factory in Fulham, London in 1903, and in 1904 became MacFarlane Lang & Co Ltd. In 1948 it formed United Biscuits Ltd along with McVitie and Price.
http://cheshire.cent.gla.ac.uk/ead/search?operation=search&fieldidx1=bath.corporateName&fieldrel1=exact&fieldcont1=macfarlane%20lang%20%26%20co%20ltd

Monica  :)
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 07 February 15 18:26 GMT (UK)
James Lang opened a shop and bakery in Gallowgate in 1817. His nephew, John Macfarlane, joined the business and took over when James died. A new bread factory was built at Wesleyan Street in Calton in 1880. The firm decided to move into machine-made biscuit manufacturing and opened the Victoria Biscuit Works on an adjoining site in 1886. Expansion to London followed, with the opening of the Imperial Biscuit Works in Fulham in 1903...
www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSA05084

Can you connect back to either of these lines, Annie?

Monica
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 07 February 15 18:40 GMT (UK)
Hope you can find the connections, Annie.

I love this site, as an amazing archive of old films. This one here http://ssa.nls.uk/film/0535 fits well with your Aunt mentioning the lorry...

Modern equivalent...youtube... www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMFL5wiVYZM

...Just in case other surnames came in to play:

The passion for baking and expertise traces back to the McVitie family’s store, in Edinburgh in 1830. The McVitie family’s flair for baking became hugely popular and expanded into full scale manufacturing. However, it wasn’t until the merger of two family businesses - McVitie & Price and Macfarlane Lang - in 1948, whereby United Biscuits began.

As a marketing girl, but with toiletries and Unilver...finding this interesting  ;)

Clues to names, Annie, would help now...

Monica  :)
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 07 February 15 18:53 GMT (UK)
To be Honest Monica I have not found anything concrete as yet  ;D

I will chat again with my aunt next weekend to try and jog her ailing memory.

I don't like to ask too much all in one go as I dont want to confuse her altogether :-)

My aunt & my mother (now deceased) were born in N Ireland i.e. it would appear the firm's lorries travelled there.

My aunt told me her mother (my grandmother) had told her they (our family) were related to them whenever the lorry drove past.

My grandmothers father was born in St. Andrew's area of Glasgow which is as close as I have to ANY connection !!! ??? ::) ;D

He had family connections in Glasgow, Dundee & Newcastle-upon-Tyne (married twice & 2 families) so it may be through him?

Roll on next weekend  ;D

Annie.

P.S. My aunt is 82 & not in good health & I always try to find what threads she remembers & Ive come a long long way to date & enjoy the tasks.
This is one of 2 queries I have yet to find answers to  :P

Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 07 February 15 18:58 GMT (UK)
Enjoy the memory travels with your Aunt, Annie.... :)

Hopefully we can make connections along the way to this line. It could be as simple as a son or daughter, a niece or nephew, marrying in somewhere along the way...

Monica
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 07 February 15 19:07 GMT (UK)
Monica,

My aunt distinctly remembers the lorry/vehicle with MacFarlane Lang...................none of the other combinations  :P That's a good start. She was born 1933 that's why I guessed her recollection to be around 1938 - 1948.
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 07 February 15 19:18 GMT (UK)
Monica,

You will not believe it....................found what I assume to be the connection which is Null & Void   :o ;D

My grandfather's 1st wife was Isabella Bethia M(a)cFarlan/e/d  ???

I'm assuming my grandad didn't tell my grandmother what the connection was & she would be oblivious but my grandad had a sweetshop in Belfast within their house.

The shop was downstairs & living quarter's upstairs.

I wonder if MacFarlane & Lang delivered to the shop?

I will put that to my aunt as she was only a kid herself  ::)  ;D

Not going to inherit any shortbread now am I  ;D

Annie
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 07 February 15 19:21 GMT (UK)

Not going to inherit any shortbread now am I  ;D


Maybe not  ;) Follow it through as you said though...amazing how our elder family remember the detail, whilst not clear to us...leads you somewhere else!

With your aunt and the memory of the Lorry...was this when she was a child in Ireland, from what she has mentioned to you?

My mum's memory of her early life is sharper and clearer than what I did 10 mins ago... ;D

Monica
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 07 February 15 20:09 GMT (UK)
With your aunt and the memory of the Lorry...was this when she was a child in Ireland, from what she has mentioned to you?

Absolutely. My aunt was born 1933 & her mum (my grandmother) died 1948 so it was within that period  ;D

Will ask her next week & put it to her regarding 1st wife as they had a son together & my grandad was a widower when he married my grandmother.

Annie
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Charis Macfarlane on Friday 28 December 18 04:12 GMT (UK)
I know this is an old post, but my great grandfather was thr rev. John Macfarlane, a relation to Macfarlane & Lang ...im just not exactly sure where he fits in(son/nephew/other). I suspect he would have been born in the 1880s as hos wife was born 1890, they married in 1914 and had their 1st child in 1915
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 28 December 18 10:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Charis, welcome to RootsChat :)

From Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae: John Macfarlane, born Helensburgh, 15th December 1881, son of Alexander Macfarlane and Jane Graham .... married 14 April 1914 Catherine Anne Baker, and had issue: Isabella Russell, born .... 1915; John Alexander, born .... 1917, Margaret, born .... 1928.

There are several references to him, charting his career in the Church of Scotland. The full write ups can be easily accessed via http://ecclegen.com/general-index-mac1-2/#MacFarlane,%20Andrew - scroll down to John MacFarlane, 1911 Aberdalgie etc
Title: Re: MacFarlane Lang (Biscuit Manufacturers) Glasgow
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 28 December 18 10:43 GMT (UK)
Alexander McFarlane and Jane McNair Graham were married in Row in 1879. Jane died in Row in 1928 aged 76, so she must have been born about 1851/1852.

Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, invest in a few credits, and use some of them to view the marriage certificate. This will tell you the names of Alexander's and Jane's parents including their mothers' maiden surnames, and the occupations of Alexander and his father.