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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Denbighshire => Topic started by: valerie1 on Tuesday 03 February 15 14:57 GMT (UK)
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Help and advice please before I send for this marraige certificate, can anyone look at the info to see if I'm making a blunder.
Found Maggie Davies living in Peel street Abergele 1911 census which is where she came from, married to Robert Thomas Davies her age is two years out but there seems to be some crossing out in the Margin
She has three children, it states marraige 1904 the only marraige I can find us for a Margaret Ann in 1904 in Wrexham.
Trying not to get to excited
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What was "your" Margaret's maiden name?
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Davies
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Oh, Val - that looks promising - will go look. How many years now?
:D
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I don't see any crossing out except to change the marriage/children totals from his col to hers and ages put in female col ???
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The marriage is given on North Wales BMD as a St Asaph Civil Marriage in 1904.She is given as Margaret Ann.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Robert Thomas and Margaret Ann are definitely on same page - Q1,1904, St Asaph RD, 11b. 448
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Have we looked at this 1911 before? It had a little tick by it in my search box ::)
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I probably have and the Marriage Gadget.lol
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Well Hannah her sister had second name I did not know about William, I don't appear to have it marked down Gadget but I have looked at so many but the address !!!
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What was her original address in Peel Street?
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The middle name was often left of birth records,maybe they thought it cost extra with the middle name.lol
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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22 peel street
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Maybe William who knows what they thought, it was the address that drew me, according to the deceased son of Hannah he thought she had two boys but I could not let this pass, I have found another marraige much later 1917 my eye went to that as well as the groom surname was Morris and there was a Margaret Davies working at a butchers with the head being a Morris but very late to go to Pattagonia
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Have we looked for a Robert (Thomas) Davies and the children going to Patagonia yet ?
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No lol, shall I chance it and send for certificate what's one more after all :))))))
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One angle on this.It appears the Rose Ann given as a daughter died in 1913.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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shall I chance it and send for certificate what's one more after all :))))))
Go on risk it ;D
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I know I'm easily confused William it say 3 children born 3 living, what do you mean about Rose Ann?
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I'd hate to put a dampener on all this.There is at least a possibility that the Jenny Davies daughter who surely is the one given born in the March quarter of 1905,may not have married and may be the death given in the Rhuddlan District in 1988.
Rose Ann's death shows in 1913.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Oh I see what your saying they were still here 1913 and not Patagonia :((( God bless arose Ann must not be mean
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Did not want to find her today anyway .im thinking maybe 2020 would be a nice year to find her lol
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Puzzled?Why 2020?
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William Russell Jones.
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it will be about 20 years of searching then just trying to be comical and failing obviously
Thanks for your help AGAIN Gadget and William
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Before I speculate too much,have you considered the 1908 civil marriage,St Asaph district between Maggie Davies and John Roberts?
Regards
Roger
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It looks as if she might have, Roger :-X
still think this certificate is not my Maggi, went to my library few days ago noted every Margaret Davies from 1901 1919, and will send to general registrar till I have her fingers crossed she married in St Asaphs,.
Costly business this family search
Thanks Valerie
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For what it's worth,here is my speculation based on the 1908 marriage.
There is a travel record for a J D Roberts(farmer),Mrs Roberts(no Christian name),Master B D and Miss B Roberts aboard the Orita travelling from Liverpool,November 1911 for Puerto Madryn.No ages are given.
There is a Blodwen Roberts(mother's maiden name Davies),registered in the 4th quarter 1911 in St Asaph district.Registration may not closely indicate birth of course.I can't find an obvious birth for Master B D nor find the family in the 1911 census,but as it's been such a long time without success I thought it worth speculating.
Regards
Roger
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I've been trying to go through Val's various threads but there are a lot of them - maybe something in them that you might be able to pick up on.
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Yes,I've looked at a few.I seem to have a memory from looking at this quite a while ago that there was a possibility ff two children involved,but it might have been a different query altogether!
Regards
Roger
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I'm here I'm here lol, firstly thank you for bothering to look because I know I have been the proverbial pain in the bottom re Margaret, but you are all so helpful and I can't manage without coming on here I have Ansestry but apart from census I can't seem to do what you all do, magic stuff I can't find..
Roger I have been searching so long I don't know who I have looked it and who I havent, when I started 15 years ago I knew nothing but what Dr Barnardo's told me about my Mother.
By help here and my begging letters to who ever would read them I stumbled on my mothers family and slowly the info came in but it's only the last two years I have really been documenting it all.
So I found a second cousin who was in Australia his mother (Hannah ) was Margaret's sister and in a letter to me from him March 1987, he was explaining to me that he was sure nobody knew about my mother and in the next paragraph he said"Maggie my mothers eldest sister, married and went to Pattagonia in South America I belive she had two sons, of course I never asked her married name how stupid of me..
So it could be she had a boy and a girl who knows, this is all I know about Margaret Davies apart from her BC high is in my possession.
Roger the marraige and the passenger list sounds good very good.
Thank you all for your time
Val