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Title: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: decorator2012 on Wednesday 04 February 15 23:25 GMT (UK)
Hi, Im trying to find out if Ephraim Devonish born in Gt Waltham, Essex in 1776 definitely had a son also called Ephraim born in 1825.

Thank you
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 04 February 15 23:32 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Do you have the marriage cert for the Ephraim born 1825?  Does it show his fathers name as Ephraim?

Marriages December qtr 1850 
Ephraim Devonish  Chelmsford    12   85
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 04 February 15 23:34 GMT (UK)
This is from FS

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:SB88-C6L
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: decorator2012 on Wednesday 04 February 15 23:43 GMT (UK)
Hi SF, unfortunately we do not have the marriage certificate only his death certificate.
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 04 February 15 23:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

You need to confirm his fathers details from the marriage cert or you could end up researching the wrong person

With a birthyear of 1776 - Ephraim snr would have been about 49yrs old when Ephraim jnr was born.  Whilst it's by no means impossible for him to be his father - it's also not impossible that he could have been his grandfather
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: decorator2012 on Wednesday 04 February 15 23:58 GMT (UK)
Hi All we know is Ephraim snr was married in 1801 to Ann Eve, does this help?
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 05 February 15 00:03 GMT (UK)
That would mean Ephraim was born 24yrs after that marriage.  Again - not impossible but what proof do you have that his father was Ephraim? 

In 1841 he is not with any family members so your only proof of his fathers name is via his marriage cert

 
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 February 15 09:56 GMT (UK)

Another member of the family?

Ephraim Devonish

Gender Male

Burial Date 24 Sep 1827

Burial Place Great Waltham, Essex, England
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 February 15 10:09 GMT (UK)
I can't find this one on the 1841 census

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ2D-XK2
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 February 15 10:19 GMT (UK)
1851
Ephraim Devonish  Head 25 Wheelwright Carpenter Master employing 3 -1apprentice
Ann Devonish  wife 23
James Harris  16 apprentice

Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 February 15 10:20 GMT (UK)
Who is this one?

Sarah Devonish
Christening Date 09 Jan 1803
Christening Place GREAT WALTHAM,ESSEX,ENGLAND
Father's Name Ephraim Devonish
Mother's Name Ann



Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: heywood on Thursday 05 February 15 10:23 GMT (UK)
Quote from: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 February 15 10:09 GMT (UK)
I can't find this one on the 1841 census

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ2D-XK2

1841 322/  8 /9

Transcribed as Ephraim Desmith - an apprentice wheelwright
Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 February 15 10:23 GMT (UK)
Ephraim Devonish
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 27 Oct 1801
Event Place Little Waltham, Essex, England
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Spouse's Name Anne Eve



Title: Re: EPHRAIM DEVONISH
Post by: heywood on Thursday 05 February 15 10:26 GMT (UK)
Quote from: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 February 15 09:56 GMT (UK)

Another member of the family?

Ephraim Devonish

Gender Male

Burial Date 24 Sep 1827

Burial Place Great Waltham, Essex, England

Is this the assumed 'father'?

It could well be that the younger Ephraim is a grandchild in view of older child/ children found by Heather.
You need the marriage certificate as advised earlier.