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Title: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: morageckford on Friday 06 February 15 15:47 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find the birth of William Main Mathieson, born in Morayshire probably a few years before 1912, mother Margaret Mary Mathieson please.
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 06 February 15 18:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Morag

Maybe a lucky search result! Is this your William?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVMB-8GML and http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/William-Main-Mathieson/7842907

Monica
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 06 February 15 18:53 GMT (UK)
You have William's mother's name (an illigitimate birth given the surname and only mother's name?). What is the source for this?

From the post above, there is one birth showing in Moray on the official pay to view site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk You could view the birth entry from 1909 (in Elgin) to see if this matches what you have regarding mother's name etc.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: morageckford on Friday 06 February 15 19:32 GMT (UK)
Monica, thankyou for this information. I think you have the right man. His mother was known to my family but I know nothing of the father.
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 06 February 15 20:43 GMT (UK)
There may not be anything on the father on record.... :-\ If William's birth record simply showed his mother's name, and William never recorded father's name elsewhere, there may be no record on the name of his father. You can make guesses that the surname of Main may connect to reputed father (also maybe the name William) but hard to prove really. Not uncommon really for this type of event really...

Monica
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 06 February 15 22:06 GMT (UK)
William Main Mathieson is in my tree. He was born on 8 May 1909 at 205g High Street, Elgin. His mother was Margaret Mary Gordon Mathieson, born 11 November 1881 at The Wards, Elgin and died 3 March 1976 at Newlands, Tynet. I don't know anything more about him and would be happy to exchange notes if you have more information.
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: morageckford on Saturday 07 February 15 12:11 GMT (UK)
Margaret Mathieson was born in 1888. I have no more information about william her son I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: morageckford on Saturday 07 February 15 12:14 GMT (UK)
Sorry - forgot to say thankyou for posting whjat you know!
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 07 February 15 17:21 GMT (UK)
Margaret Mathieson was born in 1888. I have no more information about william her son I'm afraid.

Yo're quite right. Slip of the finger. I have about 5 generations of her ancestors. At least I have learned from this thread that he died in New Zealand.
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: morageckford on Saturday 07 February 15 17:51 GMT (UK)
I'm curious to know why you have five generations of my family! We must be related somwhow!
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 07 February 15 22:37 GMT (UK)
I'm curious to know why you have five generations of my family! We must be related somwhow!

The short answer is that they are my family too.

Margaret Mary Gordon Mathieson was the daughter of William Duncan Mathieson
William Duncan Mathieson was the son of Jane Duncan
Jane Duncan was the daughter of Joseph Duncan
Joseph Duncan was the son of Grizel Leslie
Grizel Leslie was the daughter of Joseph Leslie and Isobel Dean.

Joseph Leslie and Isobel Dean also had a son John.
John Leslie had a daughter Anne Leslie
Anne Leslie's son Robert Cruickshank had a daughter Joanna
Joanna Cruickshank's son George Burgess was my grandfather.

Where do you fit in?



Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: morageckford on Monday 09 February 15 19:16 GMT (UK)
Margaret Mathieson was my grandmother - she married my grandfather James Kerr. Her mother was called Penuel Alexander. I think Penuel's mother was Mary Eleanora Murray Grant. This is straining my memory!
Somewhere I have the family tree going back to Samuel Grant who was a tenant farmer of the Earl of Seafield in the early 1800s. One, maybe two, of Samuel's sons went to the West Indies as plantation managers and died there of disease. Another son was a church minister who had to go to India to find work and died on the ship on the way. I'm descended from one of Samuel's daughters. Samuel's brother Ludovic? Grant was an officer in the Warwickshire Regiment and fought in the Peninsular War. He was wounded in the Battle of Telavera with a musket ball in his ankle and was taken prisoner. I think he was there for four years and as the wound never healed he was freed and sent home. I'll have to have a look for the tree which I haven't seen for years!
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: morageckford on Monday 09 February 15 19:24 GMT (UK)
My mum always said we had Leslie ancestors who take us back to the Dukes of Sutherland through the Earls of Rothes who are Leslies. Margaret Leslie was Countess of Rothes - she was a countess in her own right - only child - and in 1674 she married the 5th Earl of Haddington of Mellerstain House in the Scottish Borders. Her portrait hangs there. By the way, the Queen has the Sutherlands in her family tree so you have some grand relatives!
Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 09 February 15 20:02 GMT (UK)
I think I'd better PM you as we are getting close to referring to living people.

I've been working on my Leslie tree for years and have found no definite evidence to link our Leslie line back to anyone like that, though it's true they were from Rothes.

Penuel Alexander was the daughter of Samuel Alexander and Helen Murray. She was born in Fochabers in 1852 and died in Lossiemouth in 1941 after a long life of ups and downs.

Title: Re: Wiliam Main Mathieson
Post by: NzerJulie on Monday 28 June 21 07:49 BST (UK)
William Main Mathieson born in 1909 is my grandfather.  He died when I was a small child but I have a lovely rocking horse in my garage that he built in the 1960's for other grandchildren.   I live in NZ.  I know little about his ancestry, really only what I have just read here.  I see his father may remain a mystery unfortunately but I would be interested to know more about his mother and her ancestors or to see any photos if anyone has any.  Thanks very much and hope to see more posts.