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Title: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Saturday 07 February 15 10:54 GMT (UK)
[http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=[/ftp]

Posted this a few days ago on the ancestral Dna section but despite 82 views I had no replies ; am hoping I might get a better response on the general tab

If anyone can help me with some suggestions I would appreciate it as there is a further 10% off till Monday


Thank you
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: Craclyn on Saturday 07 February 15 11:53 GMT (UK)
That link you posted does not seem to be working.
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 07 February 15 12:00 GMT (UK)
[http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=[/ftp]

Posted this a few days ago on the ancestral Dna section but despite 82 views I had no replies ; am hoping I might get a better response on the general tab

If anyone can help me with some suggestions I would appreciate it as there is a further 10% off till Monday


Thank you

Is this the link you mean
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=711399.
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Sunday 08 February 15 12:59 GMT (UK)
Yes thanks for posting it Rosie ! I am on my iPad and couldn't copy and post the link properly.

If anyone could help me with some advice it really would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: relatedtoturnips on Sunday 08 February 15 13:04 GMT (UK)
Yes thanks for posting it Rosie ! I am on my iPad and couldn't copy and post the link properly.

If anyone could help me with some advice it really would be much appreciated.

Can you speak to the company that does these tests? Perhaps they can tell you what is needed, and what you can expect from them.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: IMBER on Sunday 08 February 15 13:04 GMT (UK)
You might get some pointers here:

http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guides_to_genetic_genealogy

Imber
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 08 February 15 13:28 GMT (UK)
Doesn't answer your question but you might want to keep an eye on how this person's test results compared with a previous test.
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2015/01/ancestrydna-arrives-in-ireland-and-uk.html
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Monday 09 February 15 14:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you both for your replies;

Both the links above seem very interesting and informative, I will have a good read through and see what information I can get.   Problem is is that a lot of the information out there is about finding matches and cousins....I know where most of my cousins are as our families were very good about keeping in touch

Thanks
Nesta
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: Craclyn on Monday 09 February 15 15:50 GMT (UK)
You have contact with the cousins you know, but what this can give you is a bunch of more distant cousins that you are not aware of at present, which will in turn help you to identify more of your direct ancestors.
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Monday 09 February 15 17:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Craclyn

Thanks for your interest and reply - as I mentioned in my orginal post I'm not looking at recent history but of the origins of the family.............hence why I was asking if anyone knew if this was suitable for me.

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I wonder if someone could tell me if this test would be suitable for me ?  I am willing to buy more than one for relatives to be tested.

I am looking for origins rather than relatives; have managed to get a decent family tree on most branches using paper (and computer) research. Ideally I would like to find out my son's origins from all of his four grand parents lines. On paper apart from my husband's mother line the rest of the families meet the 20 mile rule ! But I am much more interested at the moment about the origins of the families if I can get that information.

I am an a female only child,  with one son.  My husband's mother's line is originally from Suffolk - she is still alive but there are no male relatives left.  My husband is tall, blue eyed and is fair with a hint of red in his hair.  I am wondering about a possible scandinavian ancestry   His father is from North East Wales, he is no longer with us but one of his brothers is still alive.   I am from North West Wales as were both my parents there were rumours in my dad's maternal side about a spanish lady (?).

Who would be best to test ?  Available are, myself, my husband and son.  My male cousin from my dad's side - his dad and my dad were brothers.  My Mum's brother and his son.   Of course I would prefer to do the least number possible.
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: davidft on Monday 09 February 15 18:00 GMT (UK)
Unless someone wants to contradict me I don't see the point in doing the Ancestry test for £99 when familytreeDNA's family finder test does the same but for only $99.

(Someone did reply on your previous thread. Yes the test does do what you want but the results are very broad brush and for example are unlikely to answer your Spanish lady question)
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Monday 09 February 15 22:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your help - the reply to the original thread was not posted till 18.25 gmt last night and I did not receive any notification about it. I only posted in the general forum as there had not been any replies up till when I posted.
I have taken their advice and will wait till someone else comes along
Nesta
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: davidft on Monday 09 February 15 22:40 GMT (UK)
Yes sorry I hadn't realised you started this thread before the reply was put on the other thread.
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Tuesday 10 February 15 00:10 GMT (UK)
No problem  :)
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 10 February 15 01:09 GMT (UK)
Nesta, I took the FTDNA Family Finder test a year or so ago on special offer for $99. Results are interesting and much as I expected. (I'm female)

They give you a nice map showing where you 'originated' and it also gives percentages of ethnicity though you do not know whether locations are from maternal or paternal ancestry. It is very non specific though.

There are links to 'cousins', most of which are American - none of the surnames I recognize as being families I have come across in my research, so any common ancestors are probably further back in time and may not be findable via a paper trail. As the tests are more popular in America results will generally have an American bias.

You can get a FamilyFinder test for anyone. Initially perhaps you could test your son as his results will include all of your and your husband's ancestry. If you find it useful you could then go on to other tests in the future (these companies do regular 'special offers').
https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/test-types/autosomal-dna-snp-test-family-finder-test-will-learn/

A Y-DNA test for your husband will trace the male line. You need to test as many markers as you can afford.
An MTDNA test for a female will trace the female line. (though it can also be taken by males)

A couple of years ago both my father and husband tested 67 markers and neither have any useful 'cousin' matches as yet (which is what we were hoping for). My husband, with one of the most common names in the UK has no matches, I think due to lack of numbers in the UK being tested. However my father's (distant) matches have given us some further information about his origins - though the results are obviously skewed and reliant upon others who have tested, which may change as more and more people take tests.

So a Y-DNA test for your husband, may throw up a lot of names from a particular area of the world.

I'm not sure I explained that particularly well, but I hope you can get a grasp of what I am trying to say.  :)
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: youngtug on Tuesday 10 February 15 06:15 GMT (UK)
These may help explain;
       Autsomal DNA; http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/chromosomes/typesauto/

       YDNA; http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/chromosomes/typesy/

        Mitochrondial DNA; http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/chromosomes/typesmito/

        XDNA; http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/chromosomes/typesx/
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Tuesday 10 February 15 11:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you Ruskie and Young Tug;

Ruskie - your personal experience story was a great help.

THanks for your links Young Tug - haven't had chance to look at them properly but at least they are not making my eyes glaze over - I did A level genetics but a very long time ago and things have changed a huge amount since then and as I was reading the online explanations my eyes were glazing !

Nesta
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Tuesday 10 February 15 11:58 GMT (UK)
Trystan - thanks for letting my thread stay on the common Room for a couple of days - it gave it a chance to get some answers, much appreciated.
Nesta
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 10 February 15 12:14 GMT (UK)
It is very complex Nesta. Having even some knowledge of genetics gives you an advantage over many of us struggling to get our heads around it.

When ordering a test, consider postage costs because with some there is an additional cost whereas with others, such as  FTDNA, postage is included.

Good luck and let is know what you decide to go with.

Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Tuesday 10 February 15 12:54 GMT (UK)
Will do !
 :)

Nesta
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Wednesday 22 April 15 13:44 BST (UK)
Received my results from Ancestry recently and they were quite surprising !  As far as I can tell my family is 100% from a very specific area within North West Wales -  can understand the 99% Europe bit although I didn't expect the high 61% Irish; but the one that intrigues me, but I think it is an error is the Pacific Islander ! There are a few 4 - 6 cousins but I have not yet looked properly at their trees to see if there are any matches.

Europe 99%
•   Ireland 61%
•   Great Britain 19%
•   Europe West 12%
•   Trace Regions 7%
•   Finland/Northwest Russia 2%
•   European Jewish 2%
•   Iberian Peninsula 2%
•   Europe East 1%
•   Scandinavia < 1%
Pacific Islander < 1%
•   Trace Regions < 1%
•   Melanesia < 1%
Title: Re: Ancestral DNA help
Post by: nestagj on Wednesday 22 April 15 13:45 BST (UK)
and here are my husband's.  His fathers family hail from around Llangollen and Shropshire but his mother's family are from the Suffolk coastal area .  He is tall, fair haired (reddish) and blue eyed !

Europe 100%
•   Scandinavia 34%
•   Great Britain 27%
•   Ireland 25%
•   Europe West 5%
•   Trace Regions 9%
•   Iberian Peninsula 4%
•   Italy/Greece 3%
•   European Jewish 2%