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Title: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: RustyNuts on Tuesday 10 February 15 12:01 GMT (UK)
I am looking for a baptism record for Thomas Patrick Sands Moody, the son of Mathew Moody (died 1903) and Nancy Hair Sands.  The family lived in Goonan, Ahoghill in 1901 and were Presbyterian. Thomas's place of birth on his army record is Ahoghill but there is no trace of him there. I have just located his POW record and this shows Drumcrow, Antrim.

Can anyone help with the location of Drumcrow - I've found a few locations with this name but not in Antrim.

Tks



Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: gaffy on Tuesday 10 February 15 12:23 GMT (UK)
 GRONI online has the civil birth record, date of birth 14 December 1896, registered Ballymena District:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: gaffy on Tuesday 10 February 15 12:27 GMT (UK)

Can anyone help with the location of Drumcrow - I've found a few locations with this name but not in Antrim.


County Antrim has a townland called Drumcrow in the Civil Parish of Tickmacrevan.

Edited to add: See Tickmacrevan here -

http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/civilparish/index.cfm?fuseaction=GetMap&CityCounty=Antrim
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: kingskerswell on Tuesday 10 February 15 14:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,
    The parents married on 20 Dec 1895 in Portglenone Church of Ireland , Ballymena District. The husband's name was recorded as MATTHEW.

Regards
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: glensman on Tuesday 10 February 15 15:08 GMT (UK)
Gaffy has posted a link to the map of Drumcrow which is about 3 miles inland from the town of Glenarm and close to the village of Carnalbana.  It is probably about 30 miles from Ballyconnelly where Thomas was living in the 1911 census: 

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001350484/

Just a slight doubt in my mind about whether Drumcrow is correct.  I note that the townland beside Ballyconnelly is Drumraw.  Hope this is not an unnecessary red herring.
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: RustyNuts on Friday 13 February 15 00:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Gaffy

Thank you so much for your replies.  It is great to have a confirmed date of birth for Thomas. I had tried the GRONI site before but didn't get a result using his full name. Now I have registered, I can search using the mother's name - I'm guessing this was your approach as there are a few Thomas Moody births in this time frame. The day and month for the one you found correspond with that on his POW record.

Much appreciated
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: gaffy on Friday 13 February 15 03:51 GMT (UK)
You are welcome.  :)
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: RustyNuts on Friday 13 February 15 12:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Glensman and Gaffy

Tks for the observations about the location of Drumcrow.  This is my first time researching in Northern Ireland so still getting familiar with the concept of townlands and local geography.

The only time Drumcrow crops up is in the Red Cross pow record so I was expecting it to be near Ahoghill which is the usual stated place of birth. Hoping the actual birth cert will help further.

Also, great links from you both - really helpful!
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: RustyNuts on Friday 13 February 15 12:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Kingskerswell

Thank you so much for the marriage details for Mat(t)hew Moody and Nancy Hair Sands at Portglenoe.
Absolutely priceless and another area for me to look at - truly grateful. I have no ideal where the Moody line came from so this may be a clue. Hopefully his father's name will be on the marriage cert.

I was surprised they married in Church of Ireland as both families were stated to be Presbyterian!
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: kingskerswell on Friday 13 February 15 13:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   The fathers' names were James Moody and Patrick Sands.

Regards
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: gaffy on Friday 13 February 15 13:49 GMT (UK)
Just checking, RustyNuts, to ensure that you are aware that you don't need to order up certificates to see the source material via the GRONI online website, once you've searched for and found a record, choosing the "full" view option lets you see a digitised image of the important part of the original, this option only costs 5 credits / £2. Just wanting to avoid any unnecessary expense...  :)

Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: kingskerswell on Friday 13 February 15 14:35 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   Nancy Hair Sands was born on 23 May 1873 and the birth was registered in Ahoghill. Her parents were Patrick Sands and Nancy McWilliams who married on 11 Nov 1856 in Ahoghill First Presbyterian Church. Their fathers were Thomas Sands and Thomas McWilliams.
Regards
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: glensman on Friday 13 February 15 18:17 GMT (UK)
The website:

http://www.freewebs.com/snake43/home.htm

lists many of the men from the Ballymena area who were involved in the Great War. If you click on "Weekly War 1915" and scroll down to "58th List 1303 Patriotic Men", you will find that Thos. Moody of Drumrankin, Ahoghill had enisted in the 18th R.I.R. in the week prior to 19th November 1915.  I wonder if this might be your Thomas.
 
Interesting that the townland of Ballyconnelly is adjoined by both Drumrankin and Drumraw.  I spotted a few other Moody and Sands names who might be related.
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: Sare10 on Monday 13 June 16 14:11 BST (UK)
Hello I saw your post on google and decided to message you I am Thomas Patrick sands Moody's granddaughter my name is Sarah I'm from Bristol England.
I would love to see what info you have x
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: RustyNuts on Wednesday 22 June 16 21:36 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah

Tks for the post. Not much help at present as I'm away from home. Very little family history stuff gets done in the summer. I've been trying to pm you but now see that this won't work until you've sent a few more messages. Do let me know how far you've got with your tree.  Did you also send me an email with an hotmail address?  If so, can you resend it?

tks
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: Sare10 on Monday 04 July 16 21:50 BST (UK)
Hello yes I am slowly getting there with my tree Thomas was my grandfather I never met him though as I was born after he died  are you connected to him let me know when your bCk to talk where re you from I'm from Bristol England sorry for rubbish typing phone is plying up
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: Sare10 on Tuesday 05 July 16 22:17 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: andy007 on Sunday 04 November 18 18:57 GMT (UK)
Just looked at this trail and has great info. I am also a grandson of Thomas and living in Bristol. Soon to be retired and starting the family tree. I cannot remember Thomas as he died when I was young but I do remember nanny Moody and visiting. Please more info and links to get me started especially the Irish connection.
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: Sare10 on Sunday 04 November 18 19:27 GMT (UK)
Oh wow hello Andy i didnt know I had a cousin called Andy is there another way we can talk u are my first cousin who is your parents ? I have a big family tree on ancestry.com or add me on Facebook
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: andy007 on Sunday 04 November 18 20:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Sare thanks for quick response. My parents are Frank Moody and Brenda Moody. Sorry not on Facebook or ancestry.com. Mum had a friend who produced a Narrative and Timeline. Would love to make contact but not sure how to communicate other than through this website.
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: Sare10 on Sunday 04 November 18 21:08 GMT (UK)
Ok well that’s alright I know who your dad is I met him lots of times when I was younger
Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 04 November 18 21:09 GMT (UK)
As you both have at least 2 posts you should be able to use the Private Message system to exchange email address.
Click on the user name and that will take you to the profile where there is a link Send PM
Or click on the little circle with the page logo under the user name.
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Title: Re: Moody, Ahoghill/Drumcrow, Antrim
Post by: Sare10 on Sunday 04 November 18 21:17 GMT (UK)
Hello I have sent a private message hopefully he will be able to view it soon many thanks