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Title: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: Genealiza on Thursday 12 February 15 18:11 GMT (UK)
I've found a link to a distant gr. mother who married John Wearing 1819 in Heversham.  She was Jennet/Janet/Jane Cornthwaite, daughter of Edward and Ann Cornthwaite.  I have all of her information, but no certificates for her BMD, including her appearances on the censuses and her children.  I'm interested in any information concerning her ancestors and am willing to share the information I have on her and her family.  I'm across the pond, so trips to the record offices are out of the question.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: warncoort on Friday 13 February 15 06:16 GMT (UK)
Clarification,are you seeking ancestors or descendants of Jane?BMD did not commence until July 1837,parish registers prior to that,some of which are on familysearch.org.Census records are on Ancestry,Findmypast or Freecen.org.uk
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: Genealiza on Friday 13 February 15 13:41 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your interest.

I'm looking for ancestors.  Any information on Edward Cornthwaite and his ancestors.  My tie-in is through Jennet, his daughter.

Information on Jennet that I have:
Her marriage (11 Oct 1819) to John Wearing on familysearch
Her census records from 1841 to 1881 (copies of each record)
Her death quarter--Apr-Jun 1890 from FreeBMD (I don't have the certificate)
I have her 12 children and some information on each of them (from England Births from familysearch and census records)
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: catfordcrooner on Friday 13 February 15 14:00 GMT (UK)
There is a Beetham marriage 12 Nov 1788 Edward Cornthwaite and Ann Pearson
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: catfordcrooner on Friday 13 February 15 14:09 GMT (UK)
Children born to Edward and Ann in Beetham:
John 1789
William 1791
Jacob 1794
Robert 1800
Jennett 1803

On one of the baptisms it mentions:
Paternal Grandfather John Cornthwaite
Maternal Grandfather William Pearson

So now we know the names of Edward and Ann's fathers
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: Genealiza on Friday 13 February 15 16:21 GMT (UK)
That's great, Catfordcrooner.  Is that on the familysearch website?
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: catfordcrooner on Friday 13 February 15 16:28 GMT (UK)
I don't know. I got these on Ancestry :-\
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: frian on Friday 13 February 15 18:09 GMT (UK)
The William Pearson of Beetham mentioned above (ie father of Ann who married Edward Cornthwaite) is my direct ancestor.  Some of my tree is on Ancestry - have a look.
frian
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: Genealiza on Friday 13 February 15 18:26 GMT (UK)
Thank you both.  I've been able to cull a bit of information from familysearch and will head over to the library to check out ancestry when the weather clears a bit. 

Frian, do you have a date of death for Ann?  I've found 2 possiblilities, 1844 and 1851.  I'm leaning toward the 1844 as she is living with her son Jacob and is 80.  The database that I can access for UK census records also has an Ann Cornthwaite, 93, in Westmorland in 1851.  I was trying to check her out in 1841, but they have messed up the index/image and the Ann Cornthwaite living with Jacob is on both images.

Thanks again to you both for both your interest and information provided.
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: frian on Friday 13 February 15 20:52 GMT (UK)
Hello,
Just had a look at my CD of the Beetham Parish Registers (Cumbria FHS).  The two Ann Cornthwaites are there.
Ann Cornthwaite of Slackhead, age 88 (sic) buried 18 Nov 1844
Ann Cornthwaite of Milnthorpe age 90 buried 24 July 1851
Does that help?
Also checked my book on the Beetham MIs (again Cumbria FHS)- no Cornthwaites at all.
frian
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: Genealiza on Saturday 14 February 15 00:17 GMT (UK)
Thank you Frian.  I think that narrows it down to Ann of Milnthorpe dying in 1851, age 90.  Ann Pearson Cornthwaite was 80 during the 1841 census, so she'd be 90 in 1851.  I'll have to look at the 1841 census on Anc. at the library to definitely rule out the other Ann, but the 1851 date is looking good.
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: sillgen on Saturday 14 February 15 09:42 GMT (UK)
Remember ages on the 1841 census were rounded down to the nearest 5 so she could have been up to 84.
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: Genealiza on Saturday 14 February 15 13:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you Sillgen, I didn't know that.  I'll have to look at the 2 censuses again.
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: frian on Saturday 14 February 15 18:02 GMT (UK)
It might be worth checking to see if either (or both) of the Ann Cornthwaites left a will/ letter of administration.  These would probably be at Preston in the Lancashire Archives (Richmond wills, Kendal Deanery).  There used to be a list on the internet of such wills compiled by the University of Central Lancashire, but it seems to have vanished......
frian
Title: Re: Cornthwaites of Beetham pre 1800s
Post by: Genealiza on Saturday 14 February 15 18:44 GMT (UK)
Thank you Frian,
I'll try searching for some wills for the lot.  Although, since she is a "pauper" in 1841, I doubt Ann had much to leave.