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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Herefordshire => England => Herefordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: nigelspicer on Thursday 19 February 15 12:04 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I was hoping someone could do a look up for me for a marriage possibly performed in Blakemere. I have several children born to a James Winston and Elizabeth christened in Blakemere between Feb 1727 and Jun 1738. My believe is that this James was christened in Madley on 22 Sep 1701.
So possibly the marriage took place in Blakemere around 1726, although I recognise that it may have happened elsewhere.
Many thanks for any help!
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Herefordshire Record Office is still closed at the moment - should be open by "late spring" (which is a beautifully vague description!) so if it is not online, then the next best bet might be contacting Herefordshire Family History Society http://www.herefordshirefhs.org.uk/
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There is a James Winston christened in Preston on Wye 16 dec 1673, father James mother Rebecca,
Possible grandparent.
Logically your James christened in Madley married Susan kisby inPreston on Wye 17 dec 1724,
I can find no children of this marriage tho, I have not looked for Susan's death or christening
Mike
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Mentioned this only because I see your James and Eliz. had a daughter Rebekka
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Googling James winston Herefordshire produces a will for James Winston gent. Of blakemere in 1648.
Other results indicate they are a family of some wealth
Mike
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Yet more possibly unimportant info, sometime after 1580 blakemere and Preston on Wye churches merged into one. An Edward Winston is a curate at this church in the early 1700's, possibly 1727-1740.
Mike
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Thanks for the replies. I did actually contact Herefordshire Archives to get a quote to copy a 1686 will of a James Winston of Blakemere ( I've already seen the 1648 one) but I guess because they are shut they deal with all copying requests by referring them to their researchers at research rates plus copying charges so I guess I'll leave that one for now. By the way they are now saying summer 2015 to reopen!
Unfortunately there are rather a lot of Winston's in this part of the world at that time. Mike why do you think that the James who was christened in Madley logically married Susan Kisby. He could have married Elizabeth couldn't he?
Thanks again for the suggestions.
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If it is any help, I am a mere stones throw away from Madley and Blakemere, so if you want I can go and have a wander around the gravestones to see if there are any remaining Winston inscriptions?
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Hello Spidermonkey
If the weather's good and your happy to do it then yes that could prove fruitful.
Many Thanks
Nigel
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I never knew Blakemere had a church. ::). I did visit Preston on Wye once.
My experience is that very little prior to the 1800's is readable, all the sandstone ones have lost their
top layer.
The churchdatabase does not know when the two churches combined, and has no record of a visit by a bishops representative, I wonder if any bishops transcripts ever got sent.
Mike
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The Blakemere church is visible from the road, I think :-\ I was trying to think where the Preston on Wye one was, because I can only think of the chapel there.
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Is it not next to the red brick manor house, quite near the river, we had walked from Moccas, so were not concentrating by then, as we still had to walk back :)
Mike
edit. Preston on Wye that is. I must be blind not to have seen blakemere
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If it is any help, I am a mere stones throw away from Madley and Blakemere, so if you want I can go and have a wander around the gravestones to see if there are any remaining Winston inscriptions?
Have seen a suggestion on British-history ac. that there may be a floor slab in the nave of Blakemere church. James Winston 169?
Mike
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Excellent, I'll try and get into the church to see if I can get a photo of the slab. All being well, I should be able to go the churches this weekend.
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Went to Blakemere church this afternoon. We did check the graveyard (whilst dodging the rain and hail downpours!), but didn't see a Winston grave. We found the Winston slab inside the church. It's in a really awkward position photograph wise - as you enter the church it is one of the first slabs you encounter and bordered by a radiator on one side, and a partiton to create a vestry on another side.
Anyway, attached is a couple of photos.
Nope, apparently can't attach. I'll PM them to you (and Mazi, just for your interest). The transcription reads: Here lieth (?) the body of James Winston [eroded slab] Gent who Died [eroded slab] 1743 Aged 47 Rebeccah James Died April 1773 Aged 66
Couldn't pm them either, so they are on this thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=713572.0
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So British history got it wrong, this could be the james born in llanwarne in 1696.
Mike
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Have added a couple of photos to the other thread which show a grave slab for 1693. Don't think it is James Winston, but perhaps someone with better eyes can see something I can't. ;D
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I think the first pic is very promising, is Rebecca his wife, I don't think so.
The James born in llanwarne was to James and Ann, there is a Rebecca born to a James and Ann in Blakemere in 1706.
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Firstly thank you to all who have commented, but especially to Spidermonkey et al for braving the elements on my behalf- very good of you. My starting point that I am fairly confident about is a Helen Winston (my 5xggm) christened in Blakemere 14 may 1736 to a James and Elizabeth. Purely on a speculative basis I had then assumed that this James was the one christened in Madley 28 Sep 1701 but as you have now pointed out there are other contenders, not least the one named on the floor slab. Not sure how I will resolve this lot but I have been in touch with the College of Arms to get a transcript of the 1683 Visitation that has a pedigree of the Winston's of Blakemere- maybe that will provide something interesting.
Nigel
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The second slab is of Penelope (nee Fletcher) Seaborne wife of James!!