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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: hookleg on Friday 27 February 15 20:11 GMT (UK)
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Any help with family connections would be most helpful.
I know that George Simpson married Ina, who I believe was either Alexandrina or Williamina Arthur. No info about wedding. The family farmed at Nigg, south of the River Dee, Aberdeen. Their son Richard died as a prisoner of war, building the Burma / Siam Railway. I have his Army Number and burial plot. He was my mother's cousin but I know nothing very much about her relatives other than as a child she would walk to Nigg to see auntie Ina. Richard may have had a sister Mary Simpson.
Any other info about parents, George and Ina and other members of the family please.
I have found a Simpson family at Nigg 1901 census. George (senior) b 1873, Fraserburgh, wife Elsie ?? born Inch, 1872 son George b 1895, son Alexander b 1897 Son Thomas b 1899 all living at 60 Walker Road. This may or may not be the family. Thanks for any help.
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Hi
Have you looked for the marriage of George and "Ina" on Scotlands People or Richards birth which will give you Ina's full name and maiden name which will help tracing a marriage
The marriage must have been before 1939 so is downloadable but Richard was probably born after 1914 so you would have to buy a copy of his birth cert
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Does the entry for Richards death on www.cwgc.org give Ina's full name
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Unfortunately CWGC says George and Ina Simpson. AS far as I know Ina was my mother's aunt on her father's side, Hence the surname Ina. I have two candidates who's names end in Ina, That is Alexanderina or Alexandrina depending on which census one uses , born Ellon, lived in Cruden she is the more likely candidate. The other was Williamina, but I think she married a man called Alexander Melvin. There were 14 children, including my grandfather William Arthur, to William Arthur senior 1848 -1929 born in Slains and Ann Chalmers 1847-1921 born in Cruden.
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Have had a quick look at Scotland's People website. Possible matches, but I don't have a subscription to them, just Ancestry.
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Hi hookleg
Scotlands People do not have a subscription access to their records...only pay to view.
You can register for free, do general searches to see if anything shows. You need to buy units to view search results and view images online.
Monica :)
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Possible marriage entry in 1906:
1906 SIMPSON GEORGE ALEXANDE ARTHUR INA ST NICHOLAS ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN 168/01 0248
You can look this up, the original image with full details on their parents, on Scotlands People.
Monica
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Have had a quick look at Scotland's People website. Possible matches, but I don't have a subscription to them, just Ancestry.
If you want to research in Scotland, you need to use Scotland's People. Ancestry does not have any major birth, baptism, marriage, death, burial or original census records for Scotland.
You might find it useful to note that although Aberdeen extends south of the river Dee, that part of the city is in the parish of Nigg and county of Kincardine (Kincardineshire), not in the county of Aberdeen (Aberdeenshire).
There is another Nigg in the county of Ross and Cromarty, and there are a few more Kincardines!
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Thanks for the tips so far. I put the question on the Aberdeenshire forum as I have found most relatives there and I think the parents are definitely born there. I presume they must have moved to Nigg after getting married. Do you think I should try re-posting on the Kincardine forum?
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Had a few credits left - Richard Simpson was born 10/8/1914 Allens, Nigg, son of George Alexander Simpson, Farm Servant (Greive) and Alexandrina Arthur who were married 1/6/1906 St. Nicholas, Aberdeen.
So the marriage found by MonicaL looks like it's the right one.
If you purchase some credits you can then view the marriage certificate and it will state their parents details (Scottish certificates give far more information than English ones).
Annette
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Think this should be left on Aberdeenshire forum as looks like that's where the Simpsons came from before going to Nigg.
Think I could have found George Alexander's parents but would need confirmation of who his parents are as stated on the marriage certificate. Think he was bc.1885 but there is more than one possibility hence the need to establish who his parents were. IF I'm right there is a tree on Ancestry going back a few generations (although have no idea how accurate it is).
Annette
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Thanks so much Annette. How kind of you to use your credits to find that out for me.
I will certainly see about getting some credit to try to track them. Alexandrina is on my 'Arthur' tree so I have got that part of the line going back several generations.
Do you know if it is likely that there will be records of Richard's siblings, sons or daughters of Ina and George? (About 110 - 90 years ago I would think)
Also is it possible through Scotland's People to access the names of possible living relatives? I realise I can't do that on this forum.
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Nigg after getting married. Do you think I should try re-posting on the Kincardine forum?
No. It's much better to keep everything in a single thread rather than lots of different ones. That way people won't duplicate what others have already found.
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Do you know if it is likely that there will be records of Richard's siblings, sons or daughters of Ina and George? (About 110 - 90 years ago I would think)
There will be, but you will not be able to access online any births less than 100 years ago.
Also is it possible through Scotland's People to access the names of possible living relatives?
Yes, but only if you can visit the SP Centre in Edinburgh*. You cannot access births less than 100 years ago, marriages less than 75 years ago and deaths less than 50 years ago online.
You could, of course, hire a professional searcher to look for living descendants. A couple of days of a searcher's time would be cheaper than a plane ticket and hotel bill. There are links to lists of professional searchers on the SP web site.
*Some other places in Scotland also have access to the database, for example the family history section in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, but if you're coming from outside Scotland Edinburgh is the main centre.
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Thanks to Forfarian for the advice. I have an uncle who is in his 90s who still lives in Aberdeen. Perhaps I'll write to him to see if he can help, but I'm not sure how good his memory of events and people from 70+ years ago is likely to be.
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Perhaps I'll write to him to see if he can help
Excellent idea. You have nothing to lose but the cost of a stamp.
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I have found out that the farm was called Altens Farm, Nigg. I see from Google maps that there is a road called Altens Farm Road right next to the dual carriageway of Wellington Road. There is also an industrial estate called Altens Industrial Estate between that road and the coast road from Girdle Ness to Cove Bay.
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I have found out that the farm was called Altens Farm, Nigg.
See these maps showing the farm before the industrial estate was built
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=57.11236&lon=-2.06188&layers=5
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=57.11237&lon=-2.06188&layers=6
If you use the slider labelled <> you can toggle between either map and the modern satellite view.
There are some photos of the industrial estate at http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ9502
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Forfarian, Thanks so much for the map link. I haven't come across that website before. Absolutely wonderful! Also had a look at my part of Suffolk using it as well.
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Hi , found this and thought I would reply. My maiden name is Simpson. I was brought up on Altens Farm, Nigg. The family left the farm about 15 years ago when it was taken over by industry.
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Hello and welcome to RootsChat. So glad you have made contact. I have sent you a personal message, so please check for it in your emails.
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hookeleg, Altens1 is new to RootsChat (Welcome!). They need at least one more post here on the main forum before their personal message service is activated...
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Hi Altens, Please make a couple of short posts so that you can receive my Personal message. Perhaps one could be a line or so about the farm as it was and another could be a line about its development after being sold. Hoping you are related to Ina.
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In the 60's - mid 70's Altens was a dairy farm run by my grandfather George Simpson and the my father William. We then changed to beef farming.
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Was one of your close relatives a WW2 casualty in Burma?
I have George and William on my tree. Ina, George's wife was my grandfather's sister.
Hope you are now able to receive my PM if not it should come through with your 3rd posting. I will try to re send it.