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Title: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: Scottleneveu on Saturday 28 February 15 22:07 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any information on my 4x great grandmother, Dorcas Brooks. I believe that she was born in Gt yarmouth, Norfolk, England around 1790, but I'm not sure of the exact date. I believe she married a man named Robert LeNeve Utting who was May 4x great grandfather. He was possibly born in Gt Yarmouth also, but I don't know. They had my 3rd great grandfather named LeNeve Utting. Born in Gt Yarmouth. I'd love to find out more about Dorcas Brooks if it's at all possible. I'm finding it incredibly difficult! :)
Scott
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 February 15 22:23 GMT (UK)
Where did the year of birth of 1790 come from?

When and where did she marry?
When was LeNEve born - did they have other children, especially older ones, as that would give more of a clue as to when they married.
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: Scottleneveu on Saturday 28 February 15 22:31 GMT (UK)
I think she married 28 Jan, 1815, Yarmouth St Nicholas. The birth date was from a record hint on ancestry, but it could be wrong? I'm really not sure. I think they had a daughter also called Dorcas and another possibly called Emily, but sadly I don't know that much more :/
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: The Yokel on Saturday 28 February 15 22:35 GMT (UK)
Their marriage is here 28/1/1815 as you say

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01eue/


Gt Yarmouth St Nicholas records can be found here

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01euf/

yokel
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 28 February 15 22:40 GMT (UK)
Is this them in 1851?

Class: HO107; Piece: 1806; Folio: 57; Page: 21
Row 113, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk

Dove, Mary Ann  Head  M  29  Fisherman's Wife  b Great Yarmouth
Dove, Wiliam James  Son  M  2  b Great Yarmouth
Utting, Dorcas  Mother  F  57  Upholster's Wife  b Great Yarmouth
Utting, Le Neve  Brother  M  21  b Great Yarmouth
Utting, Dorcas  Sister  F  25  b Great Yarmouth
Utting, Emily  Sister  F  20  b Great Yarmouth


Dorcas senior was NOT noted as a widow!
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: Scottleneveu on Saturday 28 February 15 22:52 GMT (UK)
Yes I believe this is them as the name Dove has came up somewhere before :) you said Dorcas was noted as a widow, what does this mean? I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but this all gets incredibly confusing! :P
Scott
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: Scottleneveu on Saturday 28 February 15 22:53 GMT (UK)
Not noted as a widow
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 February 15 22:55 GMT (UK)
Maybe her husband is still alive.

Re the name Dove, it appears that Dorcas had a daughter Mary (sister to LeNeve, Dorcas and Emily) who has married a Mr Dove, who is a fisherman and probably out on his boat on census night.
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 28 February 15 22:58 GMT (UK)
And I think this is Robert, same census:
Class: HO107; Piece: 1497; Folio: 211; Page: 74
67 Bayham Street South, St Pancras, Middlesex

Utting, Robert Brook  Head  M  33  Draftman & Engraver on Wood  b Yarmouth
Utting, Caroline A  Wife  F  26  b Compton Dando(?), Somerset
Utting, Caroline H  Daughter  F  5  Scholar  b Somerstown, Middlesex
Utting, Francis L M  Son  M  2  b Somerstown
Utting, Robert L N  Father  M  65  Journeyman Upholsterer  b Elmham, Norfolk
Utting, Samuel  Brother  M  30  Journeyman Upholsterer  b Yarmouth
Green, Priscilla  Servant  F  27  House Servant  b Hampstead, Middlesex
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 28 February 15 23:04 GMT (UK)
And, for completeness, the 1841 census:
Class: HO107; Piece: 794; Book: 5; Folio: 7; Page: 7
Gaol Street, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk

Utting, Robert  M  55  Upholsterer
Utting, Dorcas  F  50
Utting, Samuel  M  15
Utting, Harriet  F  15
Utting, Dorcas  F  15
Utting, Sarah  F  14
Utting, Le Neve  M  12
Utting, Emily  F  11
Story, James  M  60  Collector            all born in county

Remember that, for the 1841 census, adult ages were rounded down to a multiple of 5 years.
Also, no relationships are given and place of birth is either Y yes, in county or N No, notin county.
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: amondg on Saturday 03 October 15 06:21 BST (UK)
St Nicholas Great Yarmouth parish records
Dorcas Brooks born 25 June 1789 baptized privately 28 June 1789 daughter of Thomas and Abigail
Brooks. mother nee Middleton.
Title: Re: Dorcas Brooks/Utting. Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Post by: amondg on Saturday 03 October 15 06:27 BST (UK)
Same church Thomas Brooks, widow married Abigail Middleton, single 21 November 1784.