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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: HughC on Tuesday 03 March 15 14:13 GMT (UK)
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William Herring was b. in Norwich in 1718 and educated at Norwich free school and Clare College, Cambridge. By 1750 he was rector of Bolton Percy near York. In that year, according to the Dictionary of National Biography, he married Elizabeth Cotton in the chapel of Lambeth Palace. He had earlier been chaplain to Thomas Herring when he was bishop of Bangor, and by 1750 Thomas was Archbishop of Canterbury.
The DNB says they were brothers, but Thomas was b. 1693: that's a big age difference. According to another source, his father John was b. circa 1679. Fathering sons at age 14?? Or perhaps that John was a brother, and William a nephew. Confusion all round.
Does anyone by chance have a tree connecting these people? Or could tell me more about Elizabeth Cotton? No idea where she was from.
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Hi - an online tree has:
Rev Thomas Edward Herring baptised Walsoken 10th Oct 1693 and died Croydon 13th March 1757. The son of John Herring 1644 – 1717 and Martha Potts 1660 – 1704. He was the brother of William Herring 1695 - 1747. So your William Herring's uncle.
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That's great, groom. Thanks for your swift reply.
Oh, and I've now deciphered my handwriting and think that John b. 1679 was an elder half-brother, John senior having m. twice. Inconsiderate of our ancestors not to give their children distinctive middle names!
Where can I find the on-line tree? Not one of the Ancestry myths, is it?
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May be worth a look here http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/index.jsp some info on father & son
regards
Edward
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Thanks, Edward, but I'm very sceptical of some of the information on that web site.
One of the Herrings apparently took up an appointment a month after his death (though he renounced it the same day), while the other was still incumbent of a parish 20 years after his.
Ne credite omnia quae in implexa tela legitis!
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Where can I find the on-line tree? Not one of the Ancestry myths, is it?
I'm afraid it is, but is quite well sourced. There are also other trees on there and information such as a piece in "Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-20, 22"
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Thomas Herring was an only son according to the memorial in Walsoken church dedicated to his parents.
Nat Biog has him as brother but is incorrect ...
I have them as 1st cousins once removed
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Elizabeth Cotton ... I have come across birth 1727, death 1794 in Croydon and marriage 1749 ... not been able to verify any of these yet
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You can find some interesting snippets of information if you search for Thomas Herring on the University of Nottingham online catalogue
http://mss-cat.nottingham.ac.uk/DServe/dserve.exe?dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Search.tcl
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Here's a summary of the Herrings I have linked so far ... mostly tenuous but several through the summaries of the letters on the Notts Uni site ... far too many Williams, Johns and Samuels and most need some form of verification ...
Our family folk lore says we are related to these Herrings, and several other researchers I have come across who are lined to my ancestors also have that same folklore in their families too but I have yet to find the missing link(s)!
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Ultramum, you're super!
Thank you very much for all that. Hope you find your "missing link".
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I am the great great granddaughter of Jane Elizabeth Herring - born 1818 married Joseph Lionel Williams, born 1815 and died 1877.
I am trying to establish whether Jane Elizabeth was related in any way to Archbishop Thomas Herring as my grandfather was interested in the archbishop and had some letters written by him. Can anyone help?