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Title: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: maryanne stillsearching on Thursday 05 March 15 05:57 GMT (UK)
Hi all, and help, where do I start looking for information from Ireland??
I'm trying to trace the family of my gg-grandmother by adoption, Bridget Hurley, born County Clare (according to death records).  She married John Josiah Bone in 1865 and when no children resulted from the marriage, they adopted a boy "named and known as" John James Bone.  Bridget died in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia in 1898 and, with the exception of a few personal effects, left her possessions to her adopted son (husband having preceded her by 5 years).  From the newspaper obituary and Bridget's will, I have the following family information:
. executor of the will was her nephew William Armstrong Jnr, officer of the post, of Peel St, Ballarat
. age at death given as 57, so born (supposedly) around 1841
. licensed victualler by trade - she operated the Commercial at the time of her death.
. resident of Ballarat of "upward of thirty years".
. parents' names on her death record are James Hurley and Ann Kearny.
. personal mementos (jewelery) left to the following -
"my sister Mrs Annie Luney of Elaine", "my sister Mrs Catherine Parkinson of Dunnstown", "my sister Mrs Mary Armstrong of Ballarat" and "my friend Nellie Luney who has been assisting me in my business".  These have been likely identified as -
.. Ann Hurley married Patrick Looney 1688  Children include a daughter Ellen, known as Nellie.   Residence in 1904 of family - Elaine, Ballarat.   Ann Looney died in 1916; details provided give an age 82 (born @ 1834), parents James Hurley and Mary Cavey.
..Catherine Hurley married William Parkinson in 1856.  Catherine Parkinson's records show she died in 1912 at Mt Egerton (Ballarat area) age 85 years (born @ 1827), parents James Hurley and Anne Keary.
..Mary Hurley married George Armstrong in 1860.  Their eldest son was William Richard Armstrong.  In 1904 he was a postal officer, residing in Peel St, Ballarat  To date, I haven't been able to find a record of Mary/Maria nee Hurley's death.
So -
This all looks pretty solid to me, except - Catherine and Bridget's mother is Ann Kearney, Ann is Mary Cavey.  OK, maybe a second marriage on James Hurley's part?  Or an error in the data provided?  A search for other people who may be siblings gives me records for the following..
.Lawrence Hurley died 1921 Sydney b @ 1840 parent James Hurley and Ann Keary or Kery.

.Denis Hurley, died 1898 Colac age 71 (b@1827) parents James Hurley and Ann Cavey
.James Hurley 1830 (C. Clare) - 1909 (Victoria) parents JAmes Hurley and Ann Cavey
.Micheal Hurley 1835(?)-1870(Victoria) parents Martin Hurley and Mary Cavey
.Mary Gerte Hurley 1874(I know, far too late),  - 1926 (East Melb) parents Anthony Hurley and Mary Keavy
.Mary Hurley born 1874 Bungaree, parents Anthony Hurley and Mary Keavy
      Yes, the 1874 records are two different records.  Different numbers and all.  I suspect an error somewhere.

I have the following place names as potentially associated with all these Hurleys -Kildimo (but according to Wiki, it's in Limerick!) , Kilfarboy and Emlagh (which seems to be everywhere!!!!!).

I don't know what of the above informations helps (that would be nice), hinders (I suspect likely) or totally confuses (that's me) but I am so hoping.....
..can anyone shed any light on this Gordian knot of a Hurley-Cavey/Keavy/Keary/Kearny complex?  Or can anyone give me some ideas on where to start?

Muchly, muchly appreciated are any and all suggestions
  Maz  (who now knows why she's been putting off tracking the Irish bits of the family.  Argh...)
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 05 March 15 06:31 GMT (UK)

Do you have the marriage certificate Vic. 1865. It will have information given by Bridget and John BONE about their origins.....age, birthplace, parents' names.
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: maryanne stillsearching on Thursday 05 March 15 06:56 GMT (UK)
Hi... the marriage certificate gives John Josiah Bone, from Devon, and he was relatively easy to follow up - born Tavistock, Devon, to Thomas Bone and Rebecca Wingate.  Bridget's details are - born C. Clare, Ireland, parents James Hurley and Ann Kearney, father's profession labourer - which means anything.  If her father never came to Australia, it's not even necessarily accurate.   On other records I've accessed online, Kearney has appeared as Kearny, Keary and Keavy as well.  I don't have all the extended family records  on paper :)  However, the marriage records gives no further information than the two names and Co. Clare, Ireland.  (Pity.  None of my collection  of marriage records give anything much more than a county if it's out of Australia.)  Sigh.  maz.
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 05 March 15 07:06 GMT (UK)


Where were they married...what age does Bridget give....who are the witnesses please.
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 05 March 15 08:46 GMT (UK)
The dates you are looking for are well before the start of civil registration, census and most church records in Ireland so I would be inclined to continue checking Australian records, newspaper articles, etc. to see if Bridget's parents might also have come to Ireland.

Also, have you tried finding living descendants from the other siblings/possible siblings in case they have more details on the Hurley family?
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 05 March 15 10:51 GMT (UK)
Keep an eye on this site particularly the Donated Material, they regularly get new records.
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/genealog.htm
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: healyjfch on Thursday 05 March 15 11:38 GMT (UK)
Have you tried to find Bridget and her siblings on passenger list/ s
The sisters may have traveled at different dates.
It may give more info on the family.

Could the adopted son be related to Bridget or her husband such as son of unmarried sister.
I'm happy to hear adopted son was treated fairly in her will.
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: maryanne stillsearching on Sunday 08 March 15 07:35 GMT (UK)
Hi people,
Thanks for the information.  Sorry about the delay responding (have had unexpected time demands).  I'm definitely looking into these pathways.  I thought there would be a problem with civil records and was wondering what other pathways were there.  Will definitely follow these up.

I did look at the adopted son being an illegitimate or orphaned family member, with no luck.  However, Ballarat was the site of a large orphanage in the 1800s.  With no records form the 1800s surviving, of course.  :)  Sigh.

Thanks again     maz (wishing there were more hours in the day)
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 08 March 15 09:29 GMT (UK)

I have the following place names as potentially associated with all these Hurleys -Kildimo (but according to Wiki, it's in Limerick!) , Kilfarboy and Emlagh (which seems to be everywhere!!!!!).


Regarding the "Kildimo" reference. There is a civil parish called Kilfearagh in southwest County Clare which has a townland called Kildeema.  Also a townland called Emlagh.  However, I can't see any Hurley occupiers there in Griffith's Valuation.

Follow the coastline 20 miles northeast and you come to the civil parish of Kilfarboy, which amongst others contains the townlands of Kilfarboy, Kildeema North and Kildeema South.   Griffith's Valuation shows no Hurley occupiers in the townland of Kilfarboy, but there are Hurleys in both Kildeema North and South.  Hurley is a common name though. But maybe worth noting regarding the "Kildimo" reference.

Edited to add:

You can have a look here: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp

I couldn't see anything, but the townland in "Kilferagh" is written as "Kildimo".
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: palea on Monday 13 April 15 21:45 BST (UK)
hi mary ann.
 Kildeema [Kildimo] Graveyard, Quilty, is the pace where you find the remains of the hurley family
  are buried.

www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don.../index_graves.htm

 i think this ann (nancy)keavey family from the 1839 census of miltown malbay
dunsallagh west.
11          John            KEAVEY            (Head)
            Biddy           DOYLE             Wife            w
            Nancy           KEAVEY            Child
            John            KEAVEY            Child
            Mary            KEAVEY            Child
            Pat             KEAVEY            Child
            James           KEAVEY            Brother         "Brother James Keavey"
            Ellen           KEAVEY            Sister          "Sister Ellen Keavey her children 3"
            Mary            KEAVEY            Neice
            Tom             KEAVEY            Nephew
            Norry           KEAVEY            Neice

this is the start i hope you were looking for . you could also try the parish office of kilmurry ibrickane for help . email :office@kibparish.ie.

best of luck ,palea.
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: palea on Monday 13 April 15 22:13 BST (UK)
hello again.
might be the hurley you are looking for
District Electoral Division: Annagh
Townland: Kildeema North
DED Number: 51/4
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: bern829 on Thursday 15 June 17 08:42 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone

Re Mary Cavey wife of James Hurley is also recorded as Ann or Nancy Cavey.  However it is the same person and have been able prove this through records.  There are many different spellings of Cavey, Kevy, Kery, Kearney, etc  Both Mary Cavey and and James Hurley were born in the Milltown Malbay area of County Clare, Ireland.

I have recorded James Hurley as born in the Milltown Malbay, County Clare, Ireland area because he moved a few times and I cannot find his birth details. James and Mary were living in Emly/Emlagh, Milltown Malbay, County Clare, Ireland when their daughter Anne was baptised.

Re the death of Laurence Hurley I have yet to prove his death.  There is a death of a Pierce Laurence Hurley who died in 1921 in Sydney, however as he was always know as Laurence Hurley cannot see why he would change his name.  I have a Laurence Hurley leaving Sydney in 1901 for Freemantle however there is not enough information to know if this is my Laurence Hurley.  There are 2 deaths of Hurley (no other information) who died in 1919 and the other one in 1920 WA.

James Hurley died between 1843-1855 in the Parish of Kilfarboy, Kildeema South, Barony of Iibricken,, County Clare, Ireland.  If you look up a map of Milltown Malbay you find Kildeema and Kildeema South.

Now can anyone help me please!

I am looking for Margaret Hurley, born about 1834, age 23, arrived in Geelong, Australia, in 1857 on the ship Çarleton".  Have not been able to find any information on her.

Also her brother George Hurley, born about 1843 who came out on the same ship at the age of 14.

I am also trying to find the death of Maria Hurley who married George Armstrong.

Hope this information will prove helpful and also that maybe someone can help me.

Many thanks.








Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: palea on Wednesday 16 August 17 16:56 BST (UK)
District Electoral Division: Annagh
Townland: Kildeema North
DED Number: 51/4

Surname   Christian Name   Rel to H of F   Religion   Education   Age   Sex   Occupation   Marriage   Where born   Irish Language
Downes   Bridget   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   60   Female   
Widow   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   James   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   27   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Downes   Laurence   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   24   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Downes   Sarah   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   15   Female   
Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   Laurence   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   32   Male   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Margaret   Wife   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   25   Female   
Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Margaret   Mother   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   60   Female   
Widow   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Daniel   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   60   Male   Farmer   Widower   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Bridget   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   22   Female   Housekeeper   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Patrick   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   20   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Reynolds   May   Visitor   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   8   Female   Scholar   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Downes   Anthony   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Cannot Read   58   Male   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Bridget   Wife   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   54   Female   
Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Michael   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   21   Male   
Not Married   Co. Clare   
Downes   Annie   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   16   Female   
Not Married   Co. Clare   
Downes   Kate   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   14   Female   
Not Married   Co. Clare   
Fox   Michael   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   57   Male   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Fox   Mary   Wife   Roman Catholic   Read   48   Female   
Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Fox   Thomas   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   27   Male   Labourer   Not Married   Co. Clare   English
Fox   Martin   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   22   Male   Labourer   Not Married   Co. Clare   English
Fox   Bridget   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   20   Female   
Not Married   Co. Clare   English
Fox   John   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   11   Male   Scholar   Not Married   Co. Clare   English
Fox   Margaret   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   10   Female   Scholar   Not Married   Co. Clare   English
Fox   Anne   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   8   Female   Scholar   Not Married   Co. Clare   English
Downes   John   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   67   Male   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Lucy   Wife   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   54   Female   
Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Corney   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   23   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Thomas   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   19   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Margaret   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   26   Female   
Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Mary   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   60   Female   Farmer   Widow   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Michael   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   22   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   James   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   20   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Pat   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   18   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Anthony   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Cannot Read   64   Male   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Mary   Wife   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   50   Female   
Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Downes   Joseph A.   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   22   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Owen   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   77   Male   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Ellen   Wife   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   63   Female   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   John   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   25   Male   Farmer   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Ellen   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   23   Female   Farmer   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Norah   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   21   Female   Farmer   Not Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Egan   Michael   Grandson   Roman Catholic   Cannot Read   4   Male   Scholar   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   James   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   52   Male   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Catherine   Wife   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   48   Female   
Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Honor   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   19   Female   
Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   Margaret   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   15   Female   
Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   Kate   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   10   Female   Scholar   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   Bridget   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Read   6   Female   Scholar   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   Patrick   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   24   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   John   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   18   Male   Farmer's Son   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   James   Son   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   12   Male   Scholar   Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   John   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   43   Male   Farmer   Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Bridget   Wife   Roman Catholic   Read-Write   40   Female   
Married   Co. Clare   Irish-English
Hurley   Mary   Daughter   Roman Catholic   Cannot Read   4   Female   
Not Married   Co. Clare   
Hurley   Michael   Son   Roman Catholic   Cannot Read   3   Male   
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 16 August 17 18:46 BST (UK)
For some reason you seem to have just cut & pasted a large portion of an Irish census? Much better to post links to the information so that others can look at the originals rather than trying to make sense of such a long post all run together.
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: palea on Monday 11 September 17 16:28 BST (UK)
do you have any date of birth for  laurence hurley because i have one in the parish of kilmurry ib, Hurley   Lawrence, son of Thomas hurley and   Bridget Kelly 11.7.1863.   Patt Mulvihil & Bridget Lennane   Mountscot.
28.1.1842   John   Luony   Derrymore, Cloony   Bridget   Hurley   Mountscot   James Hurley. Daniel Luony. Bridget Dogherty. marriage record kilmurry ib. Is this the same James Hurley  ?     looking at this i think bridget and thomas are brother and sister.
Title: Re: Help!! Bridget Hurley of Co. Clare, 1830s/40s - where do I start?
Post by: bern829 on Saturday 16 September 17 06:08 BST (UK)
I do not have any of the people you have mentioned in my tree.