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Title: Kingswinford Ancestors
Post by: spitfire28 on Monday 09 March 15 15:45 GMT (UK)
Im not sure if Kingswinford has always been in Staffs or maybe sometime in Worcestershire . I have traced the following marriage and would be greatly obliged if anyone has any further information on either husband or wife. I am assuming that at that period, either or or both parties to a marriage would have been born and resided in the district. Here goes :-

John Bate ( my ancestor ) married Sophia Eastop At St Mary's Church , Kingswinford 3rd October 1796. Page 82 of the Parish Register.

As usual , ALL help appreciated

Peter B Bates
Title: Re: Kingswinford Ancestors
Post by: lizdb on Monday 09 March 15 15:54 GMT (UK)
Did he live until 1851 census? Then hopefully would give a birthplace.
Title: Re: Kingswinford Ancestors
Post by: spitfire28 on Monday 09 March 15 16:01 GMT (UK)
Hi... that was quick  :D. He is on the 1841 Census but not much help there... he was living in Sedgley , Staffs at that time It would appear he had lost Sophia by then .
Title: Re: Kingswinford Ancestors
Post by: Daisypetal on Thursday 12 March 15 15:37 GMT (UK)

I can't see a John BATE/S in Sedgley in the 1841 census that would be old enough to be the John who was married to Sophia :-\ I can only see a John BATE aged 44 could that be their son?

Title: Re: Kingswinford Ancestors
Post by: Ian Roberts on Sunday 28 January 18 11:46 GMT (UK)
hi i to am related to J A Bates & Kathleen Mary Hill. The latter being my grandmothers mother. im at the stage of just starting to put things in  order. Not sure how this forum works either,    thanks ian.     It must be in the genes as im a bricklayer   a family connection of a kind  :)    any help is appreciated  i cant find an image of rookery Hall either
Title: Re: Kingswinford Ancestors
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 28 January 18 12:46 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Ian.

spitfire28 hasnt been on here since 2015 but hopefully still has the same email and will be notified of you reply.

I had a quick look and think this is John/Sophias Son in 1851 Census.

1851 Census
Darlaston, Staffordshire
John Bates, 56, Head, Mar, Brick Maker, born Tipton, Shropshire
Mary Bates, 41, Wife, Mar, born Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Julia Bates, 5, Daug, born Dal, Worcestershire

1861 in Dial Lane, Grocer Shop, West Bromwich, Staffordshire
John Bate, 64, born Upton Co Noan, Worcestershire
Mary Bate, 46, born Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Charlot Julia Bate, 15, born Sedgley, Staffordshire

1871 Charlotte and Husband Joseph Kent are living with her Mother Mary

Birth Reg GRO Index;
BATE, CHARLOTTE, Mothers maiden name GLAZEBROOK ***
GRO Reference: 1845  J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 300

3 February 1845, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
John BATES, Widowed, Father JOHN Bates
Mary MANSELL, Widowed, Father BENJAMIN Glazebrook***

Trish :)

Title: Re: Kingswinford Ancestors
Post by: medpat on Sunday 28 January 18 13:55 GMT (UK)
Having ancestors in the Dudley/Kingswinford area I understand your confusion and I was born in the Black Country.

Dudley was at one time an enclave of Worcestershire before becoming part of Staffordshire, like the rest of the area. Dudley Castle though, not in Dudley's boundary, was always in Staffordshire - work that one out. I believe Kingswinford was always in Staffordshire until the whole area became the West Midlands.

I have found that my relatives in Kingswinford used Stourbridge and Dudley to register the births and deaths, I routinely check both Dudley and Stourbridge for registrations.

Marriages - Kingswinford comes under the Lichfield diocese and records should be at Stafford.