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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Clackmannanshire => Topic started by: Kenbro on Tuesday 10 March 15 15:53 GMT (UK)
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:) :) :)
I am looking for my BROWN ancestors.
I have come to a halt with
Andrew Brown born c 1792-1851 in Clackmannan.
Does anyone have information about Andrew Brown's parents?
His children were all born in Fife: Lochgelly, Lumphinnans, Cowdenbeath areas.
His son was David Frew Brown born 1834 (married to Ann Shepherd)
His son was John Brown born 1862 (married to Isabella Dewar)
His son was John Brown born 1891 (married to Mary McCartney)
Any information would be very helpful
Thank you
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Does the birthplace come from a census? Birth year - is 1851 a typo? Do you have the names of any other children of Andrew? A list in birth order could be useful.
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Thanks for your reply.
Andrew Brown was born around 1792 in Clackmannan and died around 1851.
He married Agnes Bonar in 1824 in Clackmannan.
Children in age order are:
Euphan 1825 in Clackmannan
John 1830 Clackmannan
David 1833
Robert 1833
Mary 1836
Thanks
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Hi Kenbro,
This doesn't answer your question regarding Andrew's parents but SP have a death record for Andrew Brown in June 1839 Clackmannan, Clackmannanshire; Agnes and the children's place of residence in 1841. Don't expect too much information from it, but if you're lucky it may give his age to better establish his birth year.
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Thanks very much for the info.
I had narrowed his death down to before 1841 so 1839 looks correct.
I'll look at SP and see what I find.
Thanks again.
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:) :) :)
I am looking for my BROWN ancestors.
I have come to a halt with
Andrew Brown born c 1792-1851 in Clackmannan.
Does anyone have information about Andrew Brown's parents?
His children were all born in Fife: Lochgelly, Lumphinnans, Cowdenbeath areas.
His son was David Frew Brown born 1834 (married to Ann Shepherd)
His son was John Brown born 1862 (married to Isabella Dewar)
His son was John Brown born 1891 (married to Mary McCartney)
Any information would be very helpful
Thank you
Hello, I came across your post and I am interested to find out if you managed to get any further with your research on Andrew Brown and Agnes Bonar? They were mty 5th great grandparents and I haven't got any further back past them yet. Hopefully you are stilll active on here ;D
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Hi Sprinkles
I am still looking for my extended Brown family. With not much luck. If Andrew Brown was born in Fife, he may not have been, there are a number of possible parents for him. His death certificate gives no more new information. Died 1839 in Clackmannanshire. Age not given or parents names. Using the tradition of Scottish naming patterns his father may have been Robert or David and his mother may have been Agnes or Mary. Still searching.
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Hi Kemro
Remember that official Statutory registration only started in Scotland from 1855. At best what you have found from 1839 is death/burial entry in the old Parish Registers. These are often no more that a one liner :-\
Monica
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Have you considered this entry for Andrew? www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYKV-MJL
Did Agnes also go by the variant of Ann? Her death in 1881 in Ballingray, Fife:
Ann Brown/Bonnar, age 89. Mother's maiden name LOGAN. Ref 408/ 7.
Guessing this has been viewed? What were Agnes's parents' names?
Monica
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He married Agnes Bonar in 1824 in Clackmannan.
Children in age order are:
Euphan 1825 in Clackmannan
John 1830 Clackmannan
David 1833
Robert 1833
Mary 1836
There are some family researchers who show the following children for Andrew and Agnes:
Agnes 1824 - 1884
Euphan 1825
Robert 1828 - 1898
John 1830 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1KB-PS6
David Frew 1833 - 1885
Mary 1836 - 1889 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XBK6-LS9
Monica
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Hi MonicaL
Thanks for the link to the possible birth of Andrew Brown (Broun) I will look at this. Looks promising.
Yes, Agnes Bonar used Ann too. Her mother was Euphemia (Euphan) Logan. I have been able to work back from Agnes Bonar and have found some DNA links to her family. :D
Thank you for your time.
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That is great, Kenbro :)
Guessing this was Agnes' family group www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bonar-83
Monica
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That is great, Kenbro :)
Guessing this was Agnes' family group www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bonar-83 (http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bonar-83)
Monica
If one of you guys can link Agnes Bonar's daughter Agnes Brown born c 1825 to a James Izatt born c 1824 (married 5 Oct 1846 Clackmannan [see: https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/162190477/person/152141650740/media/db397ece-2208-4f63-96d2-11fa710c32c1 (https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/162190477/person/152141650740/media/db397ece-2208-4f63-96d2-11fa710c32c1)]), then they will be my direct ancestors and the profile for[Brown-48044] https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brown-48044 (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brown-48044) can be merged with my profile for Agnes Brown [Brown-109516] https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brown-109516 (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brown-109516). I am struggling to work out whether the mother is Agnes Wylie or Agnes Bonar (aka Bonnar). I have tried to research both possibilities in the past.
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Hi I can confirm that Agnes Brown born c 1826 married James Izatt 5 Oct 1856 in Clackmannan. Her mother was Agnes Bonar 1792-1881. I have confirmed DNA matches to Agnes Brown through two of her daughters Janet Izatt c 1850 and Isabella Izatt c 1856. Hope this helps. I'm not sure about your mention of wikitree.
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Sorry typing mistake. They married in 1846 in Clackmannan ( not 1856) . First daughter is Agnes born 1847 who married a Michael McQueeney born 1846 in Ireland and died c 1910.
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Kenbro, sounds like you have made headway ;)
Just adding the following death details from the Scotlands People index (original image can be viewed on site):
Agnes Brown/Izatt, mother's maiden name Bonnar
Death in 1884 in Leslie (Fife)
Age 59
Monica
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Sorry typing mistake. They married in 1846 in Clackmannan ( not 1856) . First daughter is Agnes born 1847 who married a Michael McQueeney born 1846 in Ireland and died c 1910.
Michael McQueeny and Agnes Izatt are my 3 x great grandparents. Their daughter Agnes born 18/4/1876 married John McGuin[n]ess (my surname) and then when he died in a mining accident in Blantyre in c 1903, she married a neighbour named Francis Cassidy in 1904.