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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: bibliotaphist on Sunday 15 March 15 10:51 GMT (UK)
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Hello.
Looking for any information on Isaac BATTEN, coachman and innkeeper, variously of London, Northampton and Cambridge.
Isaac married Charlotte MORTIMER on 30th May 1811 at St James' Church, Paddington, London.
I don't know when or where Isaac or Charlotte died. As far as I can tell they had 7 (possibly only 6) children.
I haven't been able to spot any of them on the 1841 census.
Any and all suggestions gratefully received.
- Alfred Mortimer Batten, b. about 1813 in Clerkenwell, London; bapt. 1819 in Northampton; censuses 1851/1861; d. 15th March 1869 in Liverpool.
- Mary Ann Charlotte Batten, bapt. 5th July 1819 in Northampton; m. William BERESFORD 1843 in Chelsea, London.
- William Wallis Batten, bapt. 21st December 1819 in Welford, Northants; d. possibly 1870 in Dublin, Ireland.
- Frederick Adolphus Batten, bapt. 15th October 1823 in Cambridge; bur. possibly 29th September 1826 in Cambridge.
- Georgiana Maria Batten, bapt. 13th December 1825 in Cambridge. May be the same person as #6 or a sibling who died in infancy and the name re-used.
- Georgiana Maria Batten, bapt. 31st January 1828 in Cambridge; m. John HIGNETT 1842; m. John KIDD 1864; d. 10th September 1903 in North Meols, Lancs.
- Edward Charles Townshend Batten, bapt. 31st January 1828 in Cambridge; d. 6th September 1895 in Eastcote, Northants.
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As Georgiana married in Essex in 1842 - living Vicarage, Littlebury, Saffron Walden
1841
HO107 Piece 340 bk 13 folio 8 page 10
Mary Willmott 67 Inn Keeper not bn in County
Mary Ann Batton 21 not bn in County
Charles 19 not bn in County
Georgiana 15 not bn in county
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Burial record for Isaac Batten b 1790 age 53 burial date 18/4/1843 Cambridge
A tree has a death date for him 12/4/1835 Littlebury Essex
and death for Charlotte 24/3/1835
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I don't have a sub at the moment, but a free search of the newspapers on findmypast shows up a report of the death of Isaac Batten, landlord of the Queen's Head at Littlebury on 12th April 1843.
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From The Bury & Norwich Post, & East Anglian Wednesday 1 April 1835
Cambridge March 30
DIED
On Tuesday morning, aged 46, Charlotte, wife of Mr Isaac Batten, coachman
There is also a report in the London Standard of 23 October 1830 of Isaac Batten, driver of the Cambridge stage-coach called "The Times" appearing at Bow Street charged with "furious driving". He pleaded guilty and was fined £10.
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Burials at Holy Trinity, Cambridge
18 April 1843 Isaac BATTEN of Littlebury, 53
30 March 1835 Charlotte BATTEN of Brunswick Pl, 46
29 September 1826 Adolphus BATTON Barnwell, 3
Baptisms at St. Andrew the Less, Cambridge
15 October 1823 Frederick Adolphus BATTEN son of Isaac and Charlotte, Coachman
13 December 1825 Georgiana Maria BATTEN daughter of Isaac and Charlotte, Brunswick Pl, Coachman
31 January 1828 Georgiana Maria BATTEN daughter of Isaac and Charlotte, Brunswick Pl, Coachman born 5 November 1825
31 January 1828 Edwd Charles Townsend BATTEN son of Isaac and Charlotte, Brunswick Pl,
Coachman bor 14 September 1821
Selina
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Dear all.
Fantastic! The power of RootsChat continues to amaze me. I've found all of the newspaper entries that you all have uncovered here, plus a few more. Thank you all also for the parish record hints.
I think I now know several things that I didn't know before:
- The date and cause of Isaac's death, and the date his wife died.
- His approximate year of birth.
- The location of three of his children in 1841.
- That he probably only had six children, not seven. His daughter Georgiana Maria appears to have been baptised twice, for some reason.
- The name of his stagecoach and the name of the pub that he later ran [it's still a pub today... (http://www.thequeensheadinn.net/)], also the approximate date that he became landlord there.
- And - from a couple of the newspaper articles - that Isaac was probably very fat!
All in all I think that's quite a result. Thank you again.
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This one just keeps on giving. What an epitaph this is:
COPIED FROM A TOMB-STONE IN A BURIAL-GROUND NEAR CAMBRIDGE.
A rum but steady driver,
Quite happy – sans a stiver (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiver),
In box-coat e'er attired,
As rough as heart desired.
Sang, drank and smok'd he,
The droll compound us'd to be
Of sense, of nonsense, and of drollery.
Pray for the soul of Isaac Batten,
A worthy dragsman, and a fat 'un.
— Northampton Mercury, 8th May 1830.
Assuming this was a genuine memorial inscription and not just a joke at chunky old Isaac's expense, then it can't be "my" Isaac Batten (c.1790-1843) above, who was alive and kicking in 1830.
But could it have been his father? The combination of relatively unusual name, profession ("dragsman" i.e. coachman), and location (Cambridge) point very strongly that way, I think. I don't have any records that name Isaac Batten's father, but there is at least one Ancestry tree that has made the leap [unsourced] to his father being another Isaac Batten who was apparently a coachman in Chelsea.
I can't find a burial record for an Isaac Batten senior in the Cambs F.H.S. transcriptions on Findmypast: only the one buried in 1843.
See also — 'TO CAMBRIDGE – FIFTY-TWO MILES.' Bell's Life in London and Sporting Chronicle, 17th January 1830.
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You already knew this and I haven't worked out how to delete.
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I've written up all my notes on Isaac Batten, including all the great information supplied on this thread, at:
http://paulstainthorp.com/worthy-dragsman-and-fat-un/ (http://paulstainthorp.com/worthy-dragsman-and-fat-un/)