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Title: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Monday 16 March 15 23:21 GMT (UK)
Hi.  I will be posting a couple of queries here shortly, my first time.  I have been a long-time supporter of an Irish chat forum on RootsChat but one of y families is taking me into this, for me, unchartered area and I really hope that I can find some kind listers with some suggestions or answers.
Bill
Australia
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: philipsearching on Tuesday 17 March 15 00:00 GMT (UK)
What sort of information are you looking for?

If you have names then a search of passenger lists would tell you where and when people travelled.

The Planters Association Of Ceylon are on facebook and they may have resources you could tap into:
https://www.facebook.com/PA.Ceylon

Hope this helps
Philip
Title: Re: CANTLAY - Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 17 March 15 05:48 GMT (UK)
Thank you Philip.  I will certainly make contact there.

My first family of interest is CANTLAY. 

LAURA ROSE HAMPTON married JAMES CANTLAY at St Andrew's Church Colombo on 13 FEB 1877.  I understand James Cantlay had a property called Mount Vernon, probably a tea plantation.

By 1891, Laura Cantlay is in the town of Bedford in the England census, a widow with 6 children all born Ceylon.  The children's names with approximate years of birth are:

Ella C(harlotte?) Cantlay 1879
Alexander W Cantlay 1880
Lewis H Cantlay 1882
James (Hampton?) Cantlay 1884
Joseph V(ivian?) Cantlay 1885
Charles Francis Cantlay 1889

I know a little of the sons James and Charles but not much.  Can someone help me with this family please?
Title: Re: HAMPTON - Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 17 March 15 06:16 GMT (UK)
My second family of interest is the brother of the above Laura Rose Hampton.

JOSEPH LEWIS HAMPTON was born in Ceylon on 7th May 1855.  He was a surveyor.  He was employed by the civil service.  From Twentieth Century Impressions of Ceylon, ed Wright 1907 p.129:

Mr J L Hampton was born May 7 1855 Kuruneg(?).  He was Superintendent of Surveys, appointed District Surveyor in 1884, rose to Superintendent in 1897, and was Acting Assistant Surveyor General in 1901.

He died in Malta on 19 Nov 1931 aged 76 leaving a widow, Emily Hill Hampton. 

He married Mrs Emily Hill at Christ Church Colombo on 30 Oct 1900, aged 45.  From the Dundee Evening Post of 1st Nov 1900 there is this announcement:  Hampton-Gardiner.  At Christ Church, Colombo, on Oct 30, by Rev Arthur Dibben and Rev J Ireland Jones, Joseph Lewis Hampton, Survey Department, Government Service, Ceylon, and grandson of the late Colonel Hampton of the 50th Regiment, and of Bodior, Anglesea, N Wales, to Emily Hill, only daughter of the late Rev Thomas Gardiner, Free Church, Old Aberdeen, Scotland.

I am of the opinion that Joseph Lewis Hampton had also married previously, probably also in Ceylon.  Would there be some way in which this could be researched please?

On 27th and 28th April 1884, twins Daisy Gwendoline Hampton and Dora Geraldine Hampton died in Meaford, Grey County, Ontario Canada, aged 4 years 6 months, born Ceylon, father Joseph Lewis Hampton.  Hampton would have been 29.  In October 1883, the ship "Toronto" left Liverpool for Quebec.  Aboard were J.L. Hampton, Labr, Mrs Hampton, 2 Miss Hamptons aged 4 and Miss Hampton servant aged 17.  I think that Miss Hampton was Joseph's sister Ellen Fanny Hampton born 1866 who in 1899 aged 33 married in Ceylon LOUIS RAOUL RUDD, tea planter, and had at least one daughter, Isobelle Hampton Rudd, born Ceylon 1903, died unmarried in England 1985.

7 years after the above deaths in Canada, in the 1891 England census, Joseph Lewis Hampton, 35, Ceylon Government Surveyor, and Norman A Hampton, 19, Engineering Crystal Palace, are boarders in a lodging house at Croydon, south of London.  Norman must be Joseph's brother.  In an undated Baptism record in the Kandy St Paul's Church Births/Baptisms 1845-75 there is this record:  HAMPTON Norcott Thomas son of John Lewis Hampton and Charlotte Josephine.  Is this Norman, or a brother of Norman.  I can find no other mention of a Norcott Hampton.

Again, if anyone can help me with this information or fill in some gaps I would be very grateful.

Bill Webster
Australia
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: stewarton on Wednesday 13 May 15 05:17 BST (UK)
Re:  Hampton Family

I am trying to find more information on Dora and Daisy Hampton who died in Meaford, Ontario, Canada in 1884, at the age of 4 years 6 months.  Their father 's name was Joseph Lewis Hampton and both Dora and Daisy were born in Ceylon. I keep wondering if there might have been a family member who lived in that area, as Meaford is not a large town. Thanks for any assistance.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 13 May 15 06:00 BST (UK)
Hi.  We each seem to know as little as each other about these girls?  Are you related to any other branches of these families (see my previous post)?
Bill
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: whiteout7 on Wednesday 13 May 15 07:52 BST (UK)
Alexander W(hite?) Cantlay seems to die in 1959 in the Halsham district, Sussex aged 78

*James Hampton Cantlay born 1884, m. 1912 Margaret Emily Bewly, d. Aylesbury Bucks 1968 aged 84

James Hampton Cantlay (born 1844) appears on the passenger list of the Soudan leaving London for Colombo in 1922 aged 38.

Isab(Ella) Cantaly 1901 census as a neice born Ceylon 1879 aged 22 in Cuckfield Rural, Sussex, England.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJD-PXC
((She could be leaving on the Sachen with a Mrs Cantley, South Hampton to Colombo this year to, you could check the original records to confirm))
http://www.GenesReunited.co.nz/search/results?sourcecategory=travel%2b%2526%2bmigration&lastname=cantley&keyword=ceylon

Mr L(ewis?) H(ampton) Cantley leaving South Hampton, England for Colombo in 1911 on the ship Lutzo
http://www.GenesReunited.co.nz/search/results?sourcecategory=travel%2b%2526%2bmigration&lastname=cantley&keyword=ceylon

* Charles Francis Cantlay born about 1889 in Ceylon was their youngest son. He married Ruby Mallan in Subiaco in 1914 - this branch went to Australia.


You mention Mt Vernon:
Kotagala 11th July a daughter to Mrs A.Cantlay 1899
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=MEX18991118.2.32&srpos=1&e=-------10--1----0Cantlay+ceylon--
(Of James and Laura Cantlays generation)

Laura Rose Cantlay must have returned to like in Ceylon and visited her youngest son in Australia (1912) if you look at Trove articles and one her sons is mentioned as living there when Mr and Mr C.F Cantlay go over to visit in 1915.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/37419110?searchTerm=Cantlay%20ceylon&searchLimits=
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/37419110?searchTerm=Cantlay%20ceylon&searchLimits=
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: whiteout7 on Wednesday 13 May 15 10:50 BST (UK)
Mipitiakande Tea Estate - The proprietors of this estate are Mr. James Cantlay and heirs of the late Mr. James Cantlay. The superintendant Mr A.W Cantlay. 304 acres of Tea and 45,000 rubber trees in the Kaleani Valley.

https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=eUF_rS8FEoIC&pg=PA880&lpg=PA880&dq=Cantlay+ceylon&source=bl&ots=IjfEmM8Qlh&sig=b-kLTnXkgwJnsVr1TUiGK-wNbUQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HBxTVf3yPKLEmAX1mID4Dw&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Cantlay%20&f=false

Mr and Mrs A W Cantlay of Dusinane Estate being shot and injured!!! and robbed in 1930 in the Nuwara Elyia district.
http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/singfreepressb19301225-1.2.16.aspx

Obituary of John Lewis Hampton Snr (Father of Laura Rose Cantlay (nee Hampton)
http://www.mocavo.com/List-of-Inscriptions-on-Tombstones-and-Monuments-in-Ceylon-of-Historical-or-Local-Interest-With-an-Obituary-of-Persons-Uncommemorated/974644/393
(There is a Obituary of Joseph Lewis Hampton the son in this link to but I can't access it)

Have your read this? It suggests that  John (James?) Cantlay, Isab(Ella) Ramuz (nee Cantlay) and Joseph V(ernon) Hampton Cantlay from tea planter stock in Ceylon, lived in South Africa around Natal. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA/1999-02/0919794386

This might be why I can see a John Oliver Roland AYLWARD and Margaret Laura Hampton CANTLAY married on 30 Sep 1939 in Pretoria. Margaret Laura Hampton CANTLAY  was born on  31 May 1918 (Wondering whose child she is with a name like that)

Joseph Vernon Hampton CANTLAY b 1884 married Ellen CANTLAY (born Norris-Jones) -  Vera Ruth Hampton Brooking (born CANTLAY) was his daughter she married Leslie Herbert Brooking. Vera was born on May 31 1914, in Nylstroom, South Africa.

Joseph Vernon Hampton Cantlay was a Corporal in the South African Mounted Rifles.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: whiteout7 on Wednesday 13 May 15 12:10 BST (UK)
Trying to figure out if this Cantlay is related to your tree:
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/275909/CANTLAY,%20CECIL%20FRANCIS

Cecil Francis Cantlay born 1884 in Ceylon. Son of Charles and Lilian Cantlay, of Bluff Hill, Napier, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand.

Not sure Laura and James Cantlays generation?



Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 13 May 15 13:16 BST (UK)
All good findings.  I'm away from home for a day or so but will look at it all then.
Laura Rose Cantlay had at least 3 siblings.  Joseph Lewis Hampton born Ceylon 1855 was the senior son but instead of continuing as a planter he became a senior surveyor in the Government, living in Colombo.  There is then recorded the baptism at St Paul's Kandy on 12 April 1864 of Norcott Thomas Hampton followed by Ellen Fanny who was born in London in 1866. 
After Joseph turned up in Canada with his unknown wife, twin daughters and Ellen Fanny in 1884, he turns up in the England 1891 Census, single, with a Norman A Hampton who, from his given age, was born about 1872, in Ceylon.  In between there was time for even more siblings.
What happened with Joseph's first marriage and with the other two sons is so far unfound.
Bill
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: whiteout7 on Wednesday 13 May 15 21:07 BST (UK)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D1693688

James Hampton Cantlay, Royal Field Artillery Special Reserve Second Lieutenant medal card (WW1)

His military record cold be interesting at some point.

and (Pre WW1)
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/27194/page/3254/data.pdf
4th Battalion Norfolk Regiment, James Hampton Cantlay, Gent, to be Second Lieutenant Dated 4th May, 1900
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: stewarton on Wednesday 13 May 15 22:30 BST (UK)
Thank you for this information - this might be a good place to do some more research.  I am waiting to hear from someone and I will get back to you and Bill very shortly
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: whiteout7 on Thursday 14 May 15 04:43 BST (UK)
WW2 - (Yikes  this was not a nice place, glad Mrs Mary Cantlay got to Sydney)

"Alexander Vernon White Cantlay b 1893. to the far east 1921. Tea planter Pematang Siantar.
Wife Mary evacuated from Batavia to Sydney on Boissevain, arriving 23.2.42
MRB 1942 Records Cantlay A.V.W.Cantlay civillian internee Palembang, Sumatra"



http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=18&ved=0CEgQFjAHOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.malayanvolunteersgroup.org.uk%2Ffiles%2FSUMATRA_INTERNEES_%2528_Version_1-1.1.0%2529%2520%25281%2529%2520%2528Autosaved%2529%2520copy.doc&ei=LBVUVbfrLorq8AWY7YOwCw&usg=AFQjCNGq3ziTYufNGup3xCRiZzLYfocxhA&bvm=bv.93112503,d.dGc

I think this might be his trip out Sumatra:
1938 London to Penang (Malaysia)
A V W CANTLAY aged 45 on the AUTOLYCUS

*I don't think this is A.W. Cantlay of Ceylon b 1880 but A.V.W Catlay b.1893
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: wurding on Tuesday 11 August 15 16:27 BST (UK)
I collated some information about the Rowsell and Congrev families in Ceylon in this blog post:

https://rowsellfamilyhistory.wordpress.com/rowsells-of-ceylon-and-india/

I would like to learn more about the Ceylon Labour Commisioner and wonder if anyone knows where the planters association's minutes of meetings might be obtained?
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: Amyking on Sunday 23 December 18 13:03 GMT (UK)
Am interested in this chat. My name is Amy Esme Hampton Cantlay (now Kingdom), and my father is Vernon Joseph Hampton Cantlay.

He was born in Warmbaths, South Africa on 14 October 1946 and now lives and farms in Mkushi, Zambia. He would be very interested in the above information which I will print for him, and he may also be able to answer some of the questions raised as he has done quite a lot of his own research into our family history.

His father, Joseph Vernon Hampton Cantlay, married a widow by the name of Esme Mary Holcombe King (née Bluett) in South Africa. They had four children, Vernon, Douglas, Greer and Derrick. Derrick passed away at the age of 18 in a motorcycle accident. Vernon and Doug both live in Zambia and Greer lives near Pietermaritzburg, South Africa.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Monday 24 December 18 02:57 GMT (UK)
Amy, great to see your response to this quiet search.  I'd be thrilled if you and your father are keen to take it on.
There are other branches of this Cantlay family in Australia and probably also in England.  It is entirely possible that these may retain information in various forms not in the public domain and they may be equally thrilled to hear from you and to share that information.
I started this thread 3 years or more ago.  While very interested in the Cantlays, your ancestors are equally the Hamptons, who were my main interest.  The Hampton family have a very distinguished ancient history back into Wales with records extending back to the middle ages.
Through marriages they acquired surnames such as Hampton Jones, Hampton Lewis and Lewis Hampton.  As was common, sons (and particularly younger sons) took up officer careers in the British and Indian Armies.  This career took a couple to India.  Presumably from that they saw opportunities as tea planters in Ceylon, which is where they met and married with Cantlay.
Your ancestor John Lewis Hampton Hampton was actually born in Allahabad, Bengal, in 1827 to Colonel Joseph Hampton Hampton, married Charlotte Josephine PIACHAUD IN 1854 in Colombo and died at Lindula, Ceylon, in 1893.  Laura Rose Hampton was their 2nd child.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: barryd on Monday 24 December 18 05:00 GMT (UK)
Try this site. You will see Eileen Hewson's name mentioned. She is probably the most published compiler of Ceylon BMD's. Only library that has a collection (that I know of) is main Genealogical Library in Salt Lake City. You can buy her books - try the internet. Also the Times newspaper has a few mentions of Ceylon settlers, BMD. In my unscientific study Ceylon only received the more upper class Britons as settlers, Civil Servants, Judges, Tea Planters, etc..


https://www.genealogysrilanka.com/category/indexes-and-records/births-baptisms-sri-lanka/   
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 12 February 19 16:01 GMT (UK)
I've just come across this thread while looking for a Mr Hampton who married Josephine Marion Gleig-Scott, born 1881 in Richmond, Victoria, Australia, daughter of Robert Scott and Susannah Anne Calvert.

According to the death announcement of her brother in 1940, Josephine was by then Mrs Hampton, living in England.

The 1939 register lists at Bognor Regis, Sussex, England, Norman A Hampton, born 18 June 1871, retired government surveyor, Ceylon, and his wife Josephine M Hampton, born 18 April 1884. Note the discrepancy of three years between the birth record of Josephine Marion Gleig-Scott and Josephine M Hampton.

The death of Norman A Hampton, aged 83, was registered in Chichester in 1953, and that of Josephine Marion Hampton, born 18 April 1884, was registered in Chichester in 1969. Her probate was granted on 3 May 1971, but I have not found Norman's probate.

So my question is, have I got the right Josephine Marion Hampton, and if so when and where was she married? I have drawn a blank in Scotland, England, Wales, Ireland, most of Australia (NSW, VIC, QLD, SA, WA), NZ, and in various newspaper collections (Trove, British Newspaper Archive, The Times, The Times of India, Singapore Newspapers) and in the FIBIS database and FamilySearch and FindMyPast.

And how do I find her husband's birth/baptism record?
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Friday 15 February 19 00:54 GMT (UK)
Hello.  Thank you for this post.  May I ask, where do your researches fit into this family?  Mine is the Hampton family, originally from Anglesey in Wales.
I have  lot of your information.  However, knowing of Josephine being Norman's wife, and both of their deaths, I knew nothing of her origins. 
You say that you have the marriage of Josephine Marion Greig-Scott born 1881 in Victoria Australia.  When and where was this marriage?  Given her parents' names, her hyphenated surname could possibly suggest that she had been married previously, do you think?
There are Hampton descendants in Australia and have been since the early 1900s.  Norman and she could have met in Australia while he was visiting those relatives.
Or, depending on that marriage, can she be found in transit to Ceylon?
Bill Webster
NSW Australia
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 15 February 19 10:28 GMT (UK)
No, I said I was looking for the marriage of Josephine Gleig-Scott to a Mr Hampton, and wondering from the later English records if this was Norman A Hampton who was in Ceylon. I have no idea how or where they met or when and where they were married.

Josephine's parents, as I said, were Robert Scott and his wife Susannah Calvert, and the Victoria birth index says her birth was registered in Richmond, Victoria in 1881. Robert Scott was the son of David Scott and his wife Margaret Gleig (NB Gleig not Greig). Many of their descendants used the double surname Gleig-Scott, but Robert did not, although some of his children did.

As for how my research fits in, Josephine is related to me through the Guthrie family from Brechin and Menmuir in Angus, Scotland. I know of no other link to the Hampton family.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Saturday 16 February 19 04:15 GMT (UK)
It would be fortunate to find her marriage in Ceylon.  Parts of Norman’s family, in particular the Cantlays (Norman’s sister Laura Rose married in Colombo in 1877 James Cantlay) settled in Western Australia.  But you say that you have searched WA marriages.

None of Norman or his siblings’ births or baptisms has ever been found other than their sister Frances Ellen Hampton who was born in London on 30 Mar 1866 and baptised at St John the Evangelist Notting Hill on 11 May 1866.  Frances married into another Anglo-Ceylonese family named Rudd and lived there with her family, died in Kandy in 1946.

Josephine M Hampton in Sussex is the only Josephine in the 1939 Register who fits.  For her to be actually “Josephine Marion”, allied to a birth within a reasonable time frame adds to that probability.  Other records such as electoral registers do not show birth years.  There are other Josephine M Hamptons but no way of telling.  I think the only way to confirm or rule out this Josephine would be for her to have had children who could supply DNA, but no indication of children?

It is not unheard of for persons to advance their birth year, and Josephine was so much younger than Norman.

A word of caution surrounds the person “Norman Augustus” Hampton who is listed in some trees.  While the Josephine we are concentrating on is in Sussex, at the same time in Surrey is a Norman Augustus Hampton, living in Caterham Surrey with Gwendoline Molly Hampton, along with Eva and Sarah Edwards.  A Norman A Hampton married at Godstone in Surrey in 1933 Gwendoline M E Edwards.  So I think I can say that the Norman Augustus Hampton shown in at least one on-line tree is not Norman A Hampton from Ceylon born 1871.  (To complicate that, Norman had a 2nd cousin named Gwendoline Molly Hampton Lewis, from part of the family that never went to Ceylon.)

If I were to take a stab at Norman’s middle name, in the absence of anything otherwise compelling, Norman had an older brother named Arthur, who was unmarried in 1891, born Ceylon, working in a London bank aged 31.  I think he went to South Africa.  I can see no forebear with the name Arthur however.

So, no closer to finding that marriage.  But thank you for reviving my search for more about this family.  By the way, Norman’s brother Joseph married, for the 2nd time, Emily Hill Gardiner 1900 in Colombo.   She originated in Old Aberdeen where her father had been the Rev’d Thomas Gardiner.  This puts them closer to your location.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 16 February 19 11:07 GMT (UK)
Norman Albert Hampton's death was registered in Chichester in the September quarter of 1954. Aged 83.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 16 February 19 11:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Bill.

I was concentrating on Josephine, and hadn't even noticed the other Norman A Hampton. And even if I had, I never trust any online tree and would have checked it and found it to be wrong. :) (Out of sheer curiosity I looked up the original of the 1939 register and there was Norman, a water company labourer, Gwendoline, and three children, of whom only the second record was closed. No-one named Edwards was in the same household.)

Apart from Josephine apparently claiming to be 3 years younger than she actually was, it does all seem to fit together.

I have not found any evidence of children, though if there had been and they were born in Ceylon they might not appear in any records? I do have a note that Josephine had 'looked after her mother in Western Australia', though I'm not sure where that note came from. If correct, and Josephine cared for her mother until her death before marrying, she could not have married before 1926, when her mother died, by which time Josephine was 45. If there had been a child, and the child survived, there would have been a closed record after Josephine in the 1939 register, and there was no closed record.

I have failed to find either Susannah or Josephine in the readily available online Registers of Electors in Western Australia.

Nor have I yet found a record of a grant of probate for Norman Hampton (annoying because it would have given us his middle name!). In the case of Josephine, letters of administration were granted 18 months after her death, and her estate was worth just £191. I wonder why it took so long for such a small estate? Might there be, somewhere in government archives, records of Norman Hampton's career in Ceylon and of his pension arrangements, I wonder?

Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 16 February 19 11:16 GMT (UK)
Norman Albert Hampton's death was registered in Chichester in the September quarter of 1954. Aged 83.
Thank you, ShaunJ. I had found Norman A Hampton's death in FreeBMD. Where did you find the record with the middle name included?
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 16 February 19 11:26 GMT (UK)
The full name is in the GRO online deaths index: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

If you google "norman albert hampton" and "hampton norman albert" you will find some mentions of him in Ceylon Blue Books and the 1920 Who's Who of Ceylon.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 16 February 19 11:28 GMT (UK)
You can also find mentions of him in Fergusons Directories https://www.historyofceylontea.com/ceylon-publications/fergusons-directory/
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 16 February 19 11:48 GMT (UK)
Thanks, ShaunJ I have used that GRO site but hadn't noticed that they had extended the deaths coverage to 1957. That's very useful.

Also the Ceylon tips which I will follow up.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 16 February 19 11:50 GMT (UK)
Is this an earlier mention as Mrs Hampton in 1933? 

OLIVER: — On August 16, 1933, at Adelaide-terrace,-Perth, Annie Calvert, widow of the late
William E. Oliver,' and loving sister of. Edith Calvert and Harry Scott, and Josephine (Mrs.Hampton), and fond aunt of Mary Scott.


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/33310920

From passenger lists it appears that Norman and Josephine arrived in England on the SS Medic  on 9 October 1924, from Fremantle. Josephine is listed as aged 40.
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 16 February 19 12:19 GMT (UK)
Yes, that is indeed her. Thanks again.

The newspaper reference is especially interesting for what it omits. No mention of any children of Annie Calvert Gleig Scott or Oliver.

No mention of six more nephews and nieces, the children of their (deceased) brother George Gleig Scott, who seems to have been the black sheep of the family.

Also, the omission of references to children of Annie, Edith, or Calvert (Calvert was their brother; Edith's middle name was Grace not Calvert) means that it's probably not a case of me having failed to find them, but of there being no children to find.

And Mary's father Arthur must also have died before 1933. What a lot of useful non-information :)
Title: Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
Post by: BillW on Thursday 09 June 22 10:00 BST (UK)
Fascinating to revisit this forum.  I have this record from shipping records at Ancestry.
"Hampton N Gov't Officer 49.  Hampton J 39.  Married couple, destination Ceylon.  Ship Lancashire dep Liverpool 3/12/1910, 1st Class."
[UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Ancestry]
You probably already have this.