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Title: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: kstanczak on Wednesday 18 March 15 00:26 GMT (UK)
I have been researching my gr grandmother, Angelina Sophia Patterson Churchouse b 1879.  I know that she had a son, Henry John Brooks b 1906, and I believe she also had a girl, Elsie Dorothy b 1908 who died as an infant.  The children share the same surname.  She married Albert George Picken in 1911 and her name on the marriage certificate was Angelina Sophia Brooks (widowed).  I have not been able to find a marriage for her and Frank Brooks.  I also have the baptismal record for Henry John and his father is listed as Frank Brooks.  Can anybody help?  I am a worldwide subscriber on Ancestry and have not found it there.
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 18 March 15 01:28 GMT (UK)
I can't find the marriage
 I have this Frank Brooks in 1901
on board the Minotour
Weymouth Dorset
Frank Brooks Married 23 Stoker Wooburn Bucks
RG13 1998 119 5

Wondered if he was the Frank ??
If so marriage would be pre 1901
I cannot find Angelina on 1901 census -can you??

Suz
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: kstanczak on Wednesday 18 March 15 01:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks!  Where did you find that?  I have not been able to find her on the 1881 or 1901 census.
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 18 March 15 01:54 GMT (UK)
I think the Frank Brooks I posted married Harriet Maria Laurence on 30 Dec 1899 in Ealing
1911 he is with her visiting someone in Southampton - I don't think they had children
What occ does it give for Frank on the baptism records??

Will take another look at census - think I have her in 1881

Back soon

Suz
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:02 GMT (UK)
1881
Silver st Melcombe Regis Weymouth Dorset
John Churchouse Head wid? 69 Tailor
James son unmar? Butcher
Mary J daughter 39 unmarr?
Harriet granddaughter 13
Charles grandson 5
SOPHIA granddaughter 1
all b Weymouth
RG11 2104 73 33

Suz
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: kstanczak on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:04 GMT (UK)
I don't have the certificates, just the Registry from St. Paul's Church in Weymouth.  It doesn't have the occupation.
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: kstanczak on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:12 GMT (UK)
That is the right census report, but I can't find it on Ancestry, weird.
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:13 GMT (UK)
Hi to help out on my site in 1891 we have a transcribed Phoeby Churchhouse aged 11 b Weymouth with some of the 1881 family Census Ref RG12/1647/90/5

Keyboard86

On Anc* Sophia is shown as Sophia Churchowr 1880 Weymouth in 1881
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: kstanczak on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you Keyboard86, that is correct.  Can I ask, what do you mean by "on my site"?
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:20 GMT (UK)
Parish registers should give address & Occ

Was Angelina Sophia illegit???

I think James and Mary J on 1881 census are brother & sister and are unmarried -so maybe the children are Mary J's?

1871Silver St Melcombe regis
John Churchouse head M 59 tailor Melcombe Regis
Jane wife 60 Weymouth
John son 30 Butcher
William son27 Bricklayer
James son 24 Butcher
Mary daughter 21 dressmaker
Harriet daughter 3
children all b Weymouth -no marital status given -and Harriet should be Granddaughter
RG10 2000 68 35

1861
3 Silver St melcombe Regis
John Churchouse Head M 49 Tailor Melcombe regis
Jane wife 50 Wyke Dorset
John son 20 Butcher's app
William son 18 \bricklayers App
Mary J daughter 12
chi;dren all b Weymouth
RG9 1349 49 35

Suz
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: kstanczak on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:24 GMT (UK)
Yes, Angelina Sophia, along with her sister Harriet and brother Charles were all illegitimate and I believe they all had different fathers too.  Names are Harriet Elizabeth Nailer Churchouse, Charles John Taylor Churchouse and Angelina Sophia Patterson Churchouse.  Mother was Mary Jane Churchouse.  I have Sophie's birth certificate plus 2 marriage certificates, one with Albert George Picken (who I would love to find - another story there) and the other with Walter Birmingham.  She is listed as a widow on both marriage certificates.  Her birth certificate lists only the mother.
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you Keyboard86, that is correct.  Can I ask, what do you mean by "on my site"?

 :) My first choice site is not Anc** on the 1891 if the correct young lady she is Phoff Churchhouse b 1880 Weymouth

Keyboard86
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: kstanczak on Wednesday 18 March 15 02:30 GMT (UK)
OK, now I understand :)  Yes, Phoff is actually Sophie.  I don't know if that is what they called her or not.  My Mom said she was known as Suky or Sophie.
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: jan57 on Wednesday 18 March 15 11:05 GMT (UK)
OK, now I understand :)  Yes, Phoff is actually Sophie.  I don't know if that is what they called her or not.  My Mom said she was known as Suky or Sophie.

 Phoff  is  the  transcription     for  her  in 1891 ,   (on Ancestry) the image     looks  like  Sophy to   me ,
Title: Re: Marriage for Angelina Sophia Churchouse and Frank Brooks
Post by: kstanczak on Friday 20 March 15 19:00 GMT (UK)
I checked the Frank Brooks that married Harriet Lawrence and I suspect that this is the right guy.  Since I haven't been able to find a marriage for him and Sophie, I wonder if, when he was stationed in Portland, he lived with her, fathered 2 children, 1 died in infancy, and then left her.  I haven't found a death for him yet.  If this is him, poor Sophie.  That is 2 men that used and abused her :(