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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: kenandjulie on Wednesday 18 March 15 18:15 GMT (UK)
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I hope someone can help, I'm trying to trace an uncle who emigrated to Australia and have not got much to go on. I know he established a sheep farm over there.
He was born in Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, South Wales Circa 1898/1899. I have him on the 1911 census living with the family (Thomas Williams, father) at Coity House near Forge Side, Blaenavon aged 12.
Any help much appreciated.
thanks
Ken
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Please, could you post the name of your person of interest, and perhaps answer some questions about him.
a) his mum's given and nee names if possible
b) how you know he established a sheep farm in Australia
c) do you know which state in Australia for this sheep farm, if so, which one
d) do you know if he married, if so, any name for his wife and/or did he have children (do not name them, as they are likely to be alive) just let us know if you know that he had children.
e) did he come to Australia before or after World War I (so as a child, or as an adult)
These clues can help us to help you find the son of Thomas WILLIAMS, but most importantly, please let us know all of the names of your uncle :) .
Cheers, JM
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Hi Jim, thank you very much for your response.
Firstly it was my father's uncle and therefore my great Uncle,
What I do have
His name was Jonah Williams.
I do not have his mothers maiden name but her Christian name was Alice and the 1911 census shows to be aged 49.
With regard to them being Sheep farmers it is a story that my father passed down to me. He once told me that 2 Uncles emigrated to Australia and that they had tried to persuade his father to emigrate with them but my grandfather refused. I have no idea which state they settled in, as I've mentioned I have very little to go on.
They both married and I believe there are descendants but unfortunately no names.
I believe they came after the first World War as adults.. Sorry not much to go on and with the surname of Williams nigh in possible. I just hoping that not many Jonah's emigrated from Wales.
Your imput though much appreciated. Needle in the haystack, maybe
Thanks mate
Ken
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Hi,
What is the brothers' name please?
Leanne
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Long shot ...
Enlistment in WW1 for David Thomas WILLIAMS Place of Birth South Wales, father Jonah Ewart WILLIAMS
enlisted perth, WA
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=1806376
regards
Ros
adding : Whoops yes Jonah too young to be father of man enlisting in WW1 :( Sorry Ken
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Many thanks for your info. There's six states, each with their own BDM institutions, most of them have their historic BDM indexes on line, and most death indexes include the deceased's recorded parents names.... So you are giving us some clues to work with now.
Yes, as Leanne wrote .... name for that brother too please...
Cheers, JM
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I cannot see a Jonah WILLIAMS as a passenger on the NAA website's passenger index.
(This is an ongoing project, and lists passenger arrivals at Fremantle WA, often the first port of call on mainland Australia in the period from 1921)....
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/Scripts/PassengerSearch.asp
So that's one index checked. There's other indexes to check, but I am out of time today. Sorry.
Cheers, JM
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I really do appreciate all of your replies, this is much appreciated
Best
Ken
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Another Jonah WILLIAMS to eliminate - he was a dairy farmer in NSW but his obit indicates he was born in 1862 in Jaspers Brush. He died in 1950.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article110013533
regards,
Ros
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Looking at births for Jonah Williams 1898 in Abergavenny. There is only one born 4th quarter.
Would not this death in Wales be for the same person.
Name: Jonah Williams
Birth 20 Oct 1898
Reg Jun 1972
Age at Death: 73
Registration district Pontypool
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Vol 8c Page 1244
Also it seems as though Thomas Williams(father) married an Alice Williams in 4th quarter 1882.
There is a Brother In Law on the 1911 census with the surname Williams
Cheers Sue
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Is this the same family? Re: 1901 census lookup. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=328243.27
Thomas Williams, 43
Alice Williams, 39
Martha A Williams, 14
Phoebe E Williams, 12
Rosetta Williams, 10
Thomas J Williams, 8
Charlotte M Williams, 5
William A Williams, 4
Jonah Williams, 2
Mary A Williams, 4months
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Looks like one of the sisters came out to Australia with her husband.
Charlotte May Williams
M-1918
Edgar Cudby
Ship "Largs Bay"
Arr 13/9/1927
Edgar 36yrs
Charlotte 32yrs
Ralph 7yrs
Daughter 3yrs
Ralph Cudby died 1980 NSW He married 1947 to Beryl Hazel MCGuiness. Beryl died 1991 Lismore
Charlotte May Cudby died 1940 Lismore NSW
Edgar Cudby died 1968 Lismore
Also Allan Cudby died 1940 Lismore NSW
The daughter(can't find a death for) married Ferdinand Emanuel Meynderts.
Ferdinand died in New Westminster Canada 1988.
Sad story on Trove that Charlotte and her 7 month old son Allan were found drowned in a creek.
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Just to complete the information found by sue21757
Marriage in England for Charlotte WILLIAMS
Marriages Sep 1/4 1918
CUDBY Edgar
WILIAMS Charlotte
Abergavenny
11a/101
Deaths consecutively registered.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/index.aspx
11731/1940 CUDBY Charlotte May
Parents Thomas & Alice
At LISMORE
11732/1940 CUDBY Allan
Parents Edgar & Charlotte May
At LISMORE
Death of Edgar
34663/1968 CUDBY Edgar
Parents William & Caroline
At LISMORE
Marriage of his daughter
22145/1945 MEYNDERTS Ferdinand Emanuel
To CUDBY R* G*
At LISMORE
Marriage of son Ralph
21361/1947 CUDBY Ralph
MCGUINESS Beryl Hazel
At LISMORE
Death of Ralph
105860/1980 CUDBY Ralph
Parents Edgar & Charlottte May
A newspaper notice for -
CUDBY Beryl Hazel
Death Date28DEC1991
Aged 69
Late of South Lismore Northern Star (Lismore) Published 02JAN1992
http://www.ryersonindex.org/
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/95499720?
Link to circumstances of Charlotte’s death. An obituary.
Sue
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Photo of Ralph and Beryl's Memorial
http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=9169006
Cass
also additional info http://www.lismore.nsw.gov.au/apps/crem/search.asp