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Research in Other Countries => Other Countries => Topic started by: Cockneyrebel on Thursday 19 March 15 09:53 GMT (UK)
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The above married Frank Sidney Ritchie (b 4 Oct 1885 London) and had a son, John b 11 Sep 1917 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia at the European hospital and a daughter, June b 1919 in Hong Kong.
I assume that she married Frank in Malaysia or on board ship as I can find no marriage records in the UK, Australia or NZ.
Is there any way of finding their marriage?
Cr
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Hey there,
Do you know what Frank's occupation was? Was he army/navy? (either career or just during WWI?)
http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/
Singaporean newspapers often carried information of British bmds in the wider area.
here I can find notes of the births of a son, and of a daughter, as you mention:
http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/singfreepressb19170914-1.2.12.1.aspx
http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/singfreepressb19190403-1.2.8.1.aspx
(the OCR is not perfect so the marriage might be also mentioned)
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/passenger-lists-leaving-uk-1890-1960
there's also an "I. Masters" b. 1892 heading to Singapore in 1916 listed here, which if this is her does narrow down the date of marriage at least.
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Hi jorose,
Thank you for narrowing down their daughter's birth date and finding the relevant places to look.
I don't know what Frank did for a living but am hoping to find out soon.
Cr
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"Mount Estate, Kuala Lumpur", mentioned at the birth of their son, appears to have been at some point a coffee plantation:
http://www.rsgc.com.my/Heritage-History.htm
Mr F. S. Ritchie is mentioned here as present at a meeting of the Kuala Lumpur Planter's Association:
http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/straitstimes19160502-1.2.3.aspx
There is no sign of the marriage in the consular registers but I don't think that rules out a marriage in a local Anglican church (not sure where those records would have ended up).
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Hi jorose,
Thank you for that information.
Regarding Frank's occupation, according to one of his descendants:
he had a lot of jobs. He was in Kuala Lumpur managing a rubber plantation called Borang M. They left for Canada because he wanted the children to be educated in Canada. He tried farming, customized trucks but didn't seem to have a great talent for business.
Cr
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there is a tree on A*****y which gives the marriage as 11 Sept 1917 Sydney New South Wales Australia
but that is also the date the son was born ???
Suz
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Hi suzard, yes mine said that too but as it's obviously wrong that's why I'm asking about it here.
Cr
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The Miss I Masters on the Mishima Maru passenger manifest in October 1916 was travelling with Mrs I Masters aged 57.
Ivy Hair Masters's mother was Isabel so that fits. Passenger lists reported in the Straits Times list these two as Mrs J J Masters ( Ivy's father was James John Masters) and Miss J H Masters (presumably the J is a mistyped I).
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Thank you ShaunJ that certainly narrows down her marriage to between Oct 1916-Sep 1917. Perhaps she went there to marry him as their son was born soon after her arrival in Singapore.
Cr