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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Leicestershire => Topic started by: TAMOWEN4 on Thursday 19 March 15 12:20 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am hopeful that some of you good people may be able to help me with finding out about my maternal grandfather Thomas Clarke.
My grandfather was born Jan/Feb 1890, I have no idea where, however, thought to be England. (he spoke with what I took to be an English accent) I was 26 when my grandfather died in 1979, sadly I never asked him about his past.
My grandfather (living and working in Greenock, Renfrewshire) married his, Greenock born, wife in Glasgow 1918.
On their marriage certificate my grandfather has noted his parents as William Clarke (Milk Salesman) and his mother as Elizabeth Beaumont, both deceased.
The only marriage I can find in 1890 is for a William Clarke and an Elizabeth Beum in Barrow upon Soar Leistershire.
I have searched for births of Thomas Clarke 1890 to both the above people with no luck.
It would be great if I could begin, with your help, to find out more information about my grandfather.
Tommy Clarke Owen
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There is a record for a Thomas Clarke born 18/2/1891 residence 4/2/1904 Leeds says he is illegitimate ..Mother Elizabeth Beaumont alias Clark ..This Thomas was placed in a home ( Shadwell Children's home ) until he was 16years ..The mother had been known to have 5 children to different men and was in the habit of being out begging leaving the children unprovided for
Also his brother William Beaumont alias Clarke born 26/6/1894
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Thank you Rosie17.
The Leeds connection is interesting as my mother (now aged 87), thought her dad was from Leeds??. He was a very quiet man, who it seemed never told his children of his origins, he never mentioned siblings.
If this is my Thomas, I would imagine he did not want to talk about his background.
I assume, from my grandfathers marriage certificate, that his mothers maiden name was Beaumont although you mention alias Clark(e).
Can you clarify this for me please.
kind regards
Tommy
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:) rosie17, my Thomas Clarke was born 18-02-1890 although my mother thought her fathers birth year may have been a year out :-\.
Thank you for your reply, a last I may be on the track of my grandfathers roots
Tommy
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Yes it gives his name as Thomas Beaumont alias Clark do you have any idea when he came to Scotland ..If you want to send me p m with your e-mail address I will send you the copy
Rosie
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There is one report in the paper, quite a bit earlier
Leicester Chronicle 14 October 1876
CHILD DESERTION
Elizabeth Beaumont was charged with deserting her two children, whereby they became chargeable to the fund of the Leicester Union.-Defendant pleaded guilty, and was sentenced to 14 days' hard labour.
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There is one report in the paper, quite a bit earlier
Leicester Chronicle 14 October 1876
CHILD DESERTION
Elizabeth Beaumont was charged with deserting her two children, whereby they became chargeable to the fund of the Leicester Union.-Defendant pleaded guilty, and was sentenced to 14 days' hard labour.
Think this is a different Elizabeth Beaumont :)
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I thought it might be with the time frame :)
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This is the brother of Thomas Clarke
William Sterne Beaumont born 26/6/1894 also down as illegitimate ...alias Clarke ...There is a baptism for William Stern Beaumont 7/9/1894 Bradford Cathedral father William Beaumont and Elizabeth Lyons
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This looks like the family in 1901 census at Fountain Court Leeds going by the birth for William Sterne Beaumont
William T Beaumont b 1851 age 50 occupation news agent own account
Elizabeth Beaumont b1865 North Berwick age 36
Thomas Beaumont b 1891
William S Beaumont b1895
Harriet Beaumont b 1893 Anne Beaumont b 1900 all born Bradford
William T Beaumont was with his mother in the 1891 census
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Found a birth for William
Births Sep 1894
Beaumont William Sterne Bradford, Y. 9b/41
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Hi rosie17, Willsy,
I think this is not my Thomas, clearly cannot be sure :-\
It seems the focus from your replies are on the name Beaumont.
My Thomas Clarke has noted his father as William Clarke and his mother as Elizabeth Beaumont (Beaumont was, I assume, her own or maiden surname).
Unfortunately I do not know when my Thomas came to live in Scotland, I have searched the 1911 census on Scotlands People and can find nothing there!
Sadly the only information is what I have from my grandparents marriage certificate.
I am pleased to say on my mothers/mothers side I been lucky in my research getting records back in to the late 17th century in the Orkney Isles. Similarly my fathers side mainly from Ireland.
Thanks for your help, if anything else on Thomas is discovered, please let me know.
kind regards
Tommy
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Hard to find the right Thomas then going by the information you have is it still the same parents on his death certificate ? Good luck with your research
Rosie
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Yes rosie17,
I thought at long last I was on the track of Thomas Clarke ::)
grandfather Tommy Clarke is a difficult man to find out anything about, I have been trying for ages! Only two of his children survive, my mum aged 87 and my Uncle aged 90, neither of whom know of their fathers background, however, they only thought he was from Leeds.
Thomas Clarke is not an uncommon name, so difficult to narrow down
Death Cert only shows date, place, reporter, cause and spouse.
thanks for your help
Tommy