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Title: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: Siouxzie on Wednesday 06 July 05 16:26 BST (UK)
I thought I'd let other Cheshire researchers know about a helpful and informative site I found whilst "googling" -

 http://web.archive.org/web/20040726085642/http://www.homestead.com/lucys_jigsaw/BM.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20040726085642/http://www.homestead.com/lucys_jigsaw/BM.html) 2014 Edit


The website posed the question I did in my heading and also whether your ancestor worked for Brunner Mond.  She has currently 3,000 employee names. Well Brunner Mond rang a bell with my mother in law so I emailed with my details.

I got a very prompt reply detailing my husbands great grandfather's work history, also the site owner has a database of some local names, and she sent me a datasheet of some 516 Maddocks, a name I am researching in Cheshire. 

So all in all well worth a look see if you have Cheshire ancestors in the Northwich area.
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: dinkey on Thursday 07 July 05 08:42 BST (UK)
Siouxzie

Thank you for information regarding this site. I am researching my husband's family history and his Dalton family come from Cheshire some of whom worked in the chemical industry.

My husband's 4x great Aunt Sarah Dalton born 1818 Barnton married 6 8 1836 St Lawrence Frodsham to William Maddocks born 1816 Barnton.
Their children were Abraham 1844 Frodsham, William 1850, Phoebe 1851, Emma 1856, Daniel 1861.

If you have any of these names in your tree I would love to hear from you.

regards

dinkey
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: Siouxzie on Thursday 07 July 05 09:14 BST (UK)
Hi dinkey,
I haven't come across your names yet, but I will bear them in mind and get back to you if I find a link.

Judith Wilde has got Maddocks listed as working at Brunner Mond, so I hope you have as much luck with her site as I did.  Although it was my Thomas Newall who worked there, whose son married a Maddock.  My Maddocks being clock and watchmakers from the Winsford area.  Samuel born c 1780 is as far as I have got with them.

Have you posted your interests on the surname interests table yet ?  I thought I was the only lonely rootschatter looking into the Maddock name.

Regards
Siouxzie
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: dinkey on Thursday 07 July 05 09:50 BST (UK)
Hi Siouxzie

My husband's Maddocks ancestors do not appear to have worked in the chemical industry but were bricklayers. I have also not done any further research on my husban'ds tree. I have been very selfishly concentrating on my own. I will get back to you if I come across any more Maddocks.

However, thanks for the prompt. You have reminded me that I need to post more names in the Surname Index.

regards

dinkey
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: BOJANGELS2 on Wednesday 30 July 14 13:06 BST (UK)
my great grandfather George Clarke  was an alkali labourer in widnes I believe in 1874 -and then later I believe he was a bricklayers labourer --would those be the same jobs but different tiltles
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 30 July 14 13:22 BST (UK)
They are different jobs.

Stan
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: TerriG on Wednesday 30 July 14 16:52 BST (UK)
I've tried the link, but it's not working!  Help please! link now fixed
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 30 July 14 17:16 BST (UK)
homestead.com is a web hosting site, and the link dates from 2005, that particular web site  no longer exists.

Stan
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: Mariam82 on Thursday 28 August 14 12:15 BST (UK)
My ancestor  Andrew Cavanagh was also an alkali labourer in Widnes around 1870-1886.  He died in 1891 unsurprisingly of bronchitis - probably due to the conditions in the factory. 
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: JYB on Wednesday 21 January 15 09:31 GMT (UK)
Hi
I have a great uncle Robert Hamilton Bebbington who worked in the Alkali Works as a Clerk he died aged 16yrs of a respiratory disease looking at the 1901 census it appears a lot of people living in Hemming Street Winnington were employed at the Works and the Manager Thomas A Johnson lived in "Field House" Hemming Street also listed in Field House was a Lady Governess, Housemaid and Cook.
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: PaulThommo on Tuesday 18 September 18 10:01 BST (UK)
My 2xG. Grandfather relocated from the Stokesley area in north Yorkshire to South Shields in Durham and married in 1824, he had been a farmer but by the 1851 census he was an alkali labourer. 1861 census has him as a labourer, 1871 he is an unemployed labourer and 1881 census (aged 77) he was a farm labourer. Yet when he died in 1883 his death certificate states he was a chemical labourer.

It must have been a hard life in those days being a labourer, you must have had to work until you died, no old age pension and put your feet up. I think we are lucky nowadays.
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Tuesday 18 September 18 10:28 BST (UK)
I have a page on which some people are described as 'Ag lab' . My ancestor is just described as 'A lab'. I've always wondered whether this was just an error by the census taker but now I wonder if that was his occupation.

Martin
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 18 September 18 11:19 BST (UK)
The official abbreviation for  Agricultural labourer is Ag. Lab. 1841-81 censuses. In the 1881 census  occupations are entered as "Labourer At Alkali Works" or similar.

Stan
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Tuesday 18 September 18 11:59 BST (UK)
Stan, so do you think the "A Lab" is just a mistake, or does it mean something different to Ag Lab?

Martin
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 18 September 18 12:12 BST (UK)
I think it is a mistake for Ag Lab.

Stan
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Tuesday 18 September 18 12:18 BST (UK)
Thanks for your thoughts, Stan, I agree, but it causes family discussion!

Martin
Title: Re: Did your ancestor work as a chemical labourer or alkali worker?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Saturday 18 September 21 21:52 BST (UK)
My ancestors Hayes all worked here in late 1800s and 1900s be great for any info