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Title: Ann Roll
Post by: Jane101 on Sunday 29 March 15 09:02 BST (UK)
Hi,

hoping to find info on Ann Roll. Born around 1820 in Norfolk. She married John Leech around 1840 - 1845. Her father was Thomas Roll. I would like to find out who her mother was and possibly find Ann in the 1841 census. I know she had a sister called Mary Roll born about 1827.

Thanks,

Tabitha
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 29 March 15 09:17 BST (UK)
Marriage, 12th July 1843
St Stephen's, Norwich, Norfolk

Ann Roll to John Leech
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 29 March 15 09:21 BST (UK)
1841 census?
Class: HO107; Piece: 788; Book: 3; Folio: 8; Page: 9
Doleby Bldgs<?>, Norwich

Gotts, Emma  F  18  Silk Factory
Roll, Ann  F  21  Silk Factory
Hayes, Maria  F  20  Silk Factory
Hayes, William  M  4 months
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: Jane101 on Sunday 29 March 15 09:23 BST (UK)
Thanks KGarrad :)

Yes, that's probably Ann.
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: Jane101 on Sunday 29 March 15 09:23 BST (UK)
Can you find Thomas Roll, Ann's father in the 1841 census at all?

Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 29 March 15 09:38 BST (UK)
Nope!

There is no Thomas Roll, in Norwich, that I can see.
Maybe he died before the 1841 census?
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: Jane101 on Sunday 29 March 15 09:44 BST (UK)
No, he definitely didn't die before the 1841 census because he is in the 1851 census -


1851
17 Sayers Building Heigham
John Leech 33 Ag lab bn Norwich St Miles?
Ann 31 bn Norwich St MArgaret
James 7 bn Norwich St Stephens
William 1 bn Heigham
Thomas Roll (or maybe Bell?) 63 father in law bn Heigham
MAry Roll (or maybe Bell) 24 unm sister in law bn St Bendicts




Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: Jane101 on Sunday 29 March 15 09:48 BST (UK)
Here is his death record -

Name:  Thomas Roll
Birth:  abt 1787
Death:  Jul 1866  - Norwich, Norfolk
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: Jane101 on Sunday 29 March 15 09:52 BST (UK)
Can you find a marriage record for Thomas Roll. Would have married around 1810-1820?

Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 29 March 15 10:05 BST (UK)
Possibly?

12th December 1819
St Michael at Plea,Norwich

Thomas Roll  to  Mary Gillengwaler


And a possible baptism for Ann?
10th May 1818
Norwich, Norfolk
Mary Ann Rolls  daughter of Thomas and Frances Rolls

(Remembering that ages on the 1841 census were generally rounded down to a multiple of 5 years)
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: Jane101 on Sunday 29 March 15 11:00 BST (UK)
But, I thought Ann was born in 1820?
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: The Yokel on Sunday 29 March 15 11:31 BST (UK)
Thomas was a widower when he married Mary

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01f1u/
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: Jane101 on Sunday 29 March 15 11:46 BST (UK)
He was a widower? Can you find out who his first wife was?
Also was Mary Ann's mother then?
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: The Yokel on Sunday 29 March 15 12:22 BST (UK)
Ann baptised Norwich St Margaret's 1820

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01f1v/

First wife possibly the Frances that KG has as the mother of Mary Ann
Title: Re: Ann Roll
Post by: The Yokel on Sunday 29 March 15 15:25 BST (UK)
Thomas Roll married Ann Jarmy 13 June 1784 at Heigham st Bartholomew
children all baptised at Heigham
Ann 7 Nov 1784
Elizabeth 28 May 1786
Thomas 10 Aug 1788
Frances 17 April 1791
Robert 8 Dec 1793
Peter 8 July 1796

Thomas' wife Ann(Jarmy) buried 1 Nov 1803 age 52 at Norwich St Margaret.


Thomas (jnr) and Mary Gillingwater also had son Robert
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01f1w/

Haven't found Mary b1827 yet