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Hi
i believe i may have posted this a few years ago but thought i would revisit this part of my family.
Hugh Jamieson Walker my grandfather b 18jun1876 Belfast,1901 census age 23 he is with his mother and sisters in Belfast ,on 12jun1905 he married Eliz.Brown Christie in Dublin the marriage cert shows him living on Church Road and Eliz on Fairfield Ave ,the 1911 census shows him back in Belfast with his own family including Daniel age 8 listed as born in Dublin, birth would have been about 1903 before the marriage ,the 1911 census also lists a daughter Deborah ,she was born 15sept1906 Dublin. District #1 east, North Dublin.Daniel died 1942 torpedoed when part of a convoy during WW2 I have purchased several birth records from Roscommon for Daniel using Family Search records but no results, even though the birth was illiegitimite would it not have to be registered somewhere?maybe not if they were trying to hide the fact.any suggestions!! thx for any help
huey1
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Here's a link to your previous topic- you gave Deborah's birth as 1905 not 1906- which is correct?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=301202.0
This topic also says Deborah born 1905 with a daughter Mary born Dec.1906.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=291411.0
Another topic looking for details of illegitimate births-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=303290.0
Another topic looking for the marriage-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=371805.0
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New reply since I didn't want to mix this up with the links to all the previous topics.
Here are the Walker family in 1911 Belfast- Daniel (8) and Deborah (5)- with parents married 6 years.
Why are you assuming that the children are illegitimate? Deborah was certainly born after the marriage and perhaps Daniel was the child of a relative Hugh & Elizabeth raised as their son.
Have you checked these Dublin births?
male Walker (Jan./Mar.1902) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBK6-9PP
Deborah Walker (July/Sept.1905) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBL6-1TL
However, there's a 1902 baptism for a Daniel Walker in Dublin- father Henry-
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/cd8ddc0273652
and in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Trinity/Georges_Quay/1310387
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Hi Huey
Can I just ask . . . ?
Is it just the birth cert that you would like to have for your records OR is there help that you need with your tree that you are hoping that the birth cert will give you ?
Tara
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Hi
I seem to have cause quite a bit of confusion with my posts over the years so let me try again.
Deborah's birth is 1905 not 1906 i believe i posted a correction on that and ii have her birth cert.
The daughter Mary b1906 is the younger sister of Deborah and i wasnt suggesting that Deborah was illegitimate only Daniel.
I have the 1911 census details for the family in Belfast.
i didnt see the 1902 baptisim for Daniel but i dont see that there would be any connection father Henry and mother Norah o'mahoney the census shows them as R.C.the Walker's were Presb.
Tara
I will order that birth record for "male Walker "in 1902 and see who the parents are.Daniel is the only child of Hugh Jamieson Walker and wife Eliz who's birth record i havent confirmed
Hope i'am not confusing everyone again,thx for the help
huey1
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Hi Huey
Fingers Crossed that the 'male walker' record is for your chap.
I admire your determination to get all your paperwork in order.
If the record is not for Daniel then I fear that they may not have registered his birth.
It was still fairly common at the time for people not to register BDM regardless of legitimacy.
Tara
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Hi Tara
Thanks for your encouragment,its so hard for us amateurs too find records in Ireland,if there was no record of their birth how would they be able to apply for any social services that they may need in the future or a passport if they wanted to go to another country,i guess they didnt think of those things at that time,will apply for that "male" birth today
huey1
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By 1900s I would have thought that births would have been registered but sometimes the names are mis-transcribed in index or registered under a name other than the one later used.
For people born pre-registration (1864) there were church baptism records and census records (which were used for early claimants when the Old Age Pension was introduced c1908).
Until after WWI the average person didn't need a passport to travel to other countries so it wasn't a problem proving identity.
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Hi aghadowey
Great info! ,is there an old age pension index that can be searched ?
huey1
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Outside chance, but a birth for a Daniel Christie Timoney was registered Dublin North in 1902:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBK5-FW5
Maybe not worth sending off for, but just to note for now until it can be ruled out or in case the name Timoney crops up in your research.
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hi
thanks gaffy will make a note of that record
huey1
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Remains no more than an outside chance, but the civil registration indexes on the "irishgenealogy.ie" website are back online at the link below and give slightly more detail, ie. Daniel Timoney, born 7 October 1902, "Christie" is indeed the mother's birth surname:
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
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HI
just received an email from GRO that "a search of our data base using the details that were submitted do not find any match" so i guess its back to square one re Daniel
Thanks for your help
huey1
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Hi Huey
Don't know if it helps but Dublin Dan Walker was married to my Fathers Gran, they lived in Stevenston Scotland. He was a bit of a local celebrity for starting a riot at the cattle market in Saltcoats and was mentioned in a local book.
I don't know if they were officially married, and our family is a hotch potch of RC and Presb and as to the question of legitimacy, I do know there is a lot illegitimacy running through the family line.
The ship he was on was the Melbourne Star, he died 13th august 1942 aged 39 along with 8 comrades after being engulfed in an explosion from a nearby ship. She wasn't torpedoed till 2nd April 1943.
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I presume this is the cert you ordered
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBK5-FW5
I was in the G R O Dublin this morning and got this cert no problem.
but i am afraid you are going to need more help than i can give in sorting this one out,it all seems rather ficticious to me as i have done a search for parents and informant and address and found nothing positive.
Here goes
Daniel Christie Timoney born 7th October 1902 at 3 Ryan's Terrace,Church Road to George Timoney a Grocer and Elizabeth Timoney formerly Christie,informant Mary Christie present at birth 3 Ryan's Terrace ,28th Oct 1902.
nearest i could find for that address was
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Ryans_Cottages/
which unfortunately dont show any of the above names.
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How odd indeed.
In relation to Ryan's Terrace, cross matching the names from this 1908 - 1915 electoral rolls link ...
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fgk/
... to the 1911 census suggests that this is it:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Ryan_s_Avenue/
Confirmation comes from one of the individual returns:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000051834/
The Dunnes are at no. 3. But as for 1901, I can see no connections yet to anyone in the street. If they were ever there.
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Hum
George Timoney as a grocer in Dublin doesn't exist ~ doesn't show in the 32 Counties in fact (and spelling variants).
I don't have access to any Scottish records but I certainly think it's worth looking for a George Timoney over there.
It's possible that Bessie, given that she was from Scotland, was in a relationship with a George Timoney and came to Dublin to have the child Daniel Christie Timoney.
Certainly looks plausable but needs some looking into.
Tara
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A 15 year old George Timony is living with his father in Ayr, Scotland in 1901. His father is a grocer and he is a grocer's assistant. Still looking possible.
Edited to add:
From the 1904 street directory for Dublin, Ryan's Terrace, Church Road:
3 Christie, Mr. Daniel.
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OOH,
That looks good Gaffy.
Bessie would have been abt 18 in 1901, so playing with the variables it's certainly possible !
Tara
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Gaffy
What was the name of George's father on that census ?
Tara
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Sorry, I edited over the top of you to add a 1904 street directory entry I just found.
George Timony's father's name in 1901 looks like "Mr" !!!
Edited to add:
And in 1891 the only viable candidate for George Timon(e)y is a 5 year old described as a "visitor" in a family of Sloans in Glasgow, no other clues obvious.
I haven't checked the previous "huey1" posts, does a Daniel Christie recorded as being at 3 Ryan's Terrace Dublin in 1904 tie in to Elizabeth Brown Christie?
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Given that it appears to be a rarish name then could this be him in America ?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HG-VQ2
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X46P-QLW
Tara
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Gaffy
Presuming this is him I can't see a connection ???
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Cumberland_Street__North__Upper/28696/
He was born in Kildare yet Bessie was born in Scotland.
He was RC ~ She was Presb.
Tara
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Gaffy
Presuming this is him I can't see a connection ???
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Cumberland_Street__North__Upper/28696/
He was born in Kildare yet Bessie was born in Scotland.
He was RC ~ She was Presb.
Tara
You know what, I need to work back in the various posts and see the Scottish background to Elizabeth Brown Christie, I don't even know if Brown is maiden name or middle name, lol.
Unfortunately have to head out for the afternoon, would love it someone could crack this as it is doing my head in...
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Well,
I found an 1868 record of a Daniel Timoney being a Grocer in Temple Bar !!
Here we go again ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tara
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Daniel Timoney (the grocer) was never married and he appears to have been from Londonderry originally.
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014888/005014888_00578.pdf
Tara
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Hi Hugh
Just so that you are following me and Gaffy ~
We are working on a suggestion that Daniel may not have been the son of Hugh.
We are trying to work out is it possible that he was the son of George Timoney & Elizabeth Christie.
Obviously then taking his stepfather's name for all later records.
I've checked your posts and I can't find much reference to Elizabeth Christie in your research.
Can you please clarify what information you have on her, where she was born, parents, census ref. ?!
This will help us see could this above theory pan out !
Thanks
Tara
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Daniel Christie at the marriage address in 1909
http://databases.dublincity.ie/burgesses/search_new.php?searchtype=street&year=1909&address01=FAIRFIELD%20AVENUE
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This Daniel Christie appears to be buried in Glasnevin
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRK5-NJ6
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Hi All
sorry for the delay in answering ,having computer problems,thanks for all the work you are doing on my behalf
DerekMc i do have the info on Daniels death and i assume that your fathers Gran was Elizabeth Brown Hannah b12may1891 Kilbirnie Ayrshire d.09feb1958 Stevston age 66 her birth cert indicates that she herself was illegitimat ,she married Daniel 27feb1930 Glasgow someone somewhere in the walker family commented that Daniel didnt look like the other brothers and sisters.
Tara and gaffy Elizabeth Brown Christie b10nov1881 Newton Ayrshire d.19aug1937 Glasgow on the marriage cert to my Grandfather Hugh Jamieson Walker in Dublin it indicates that he live at 196 Church rd and she at 11 Fairfield Ave also says Church Road must be the intersection, her parents were Daniel Christie b 19feb1861 Ayr d 02jan1933 Stquivox Ayr and Mary Mcknight b 12nov1860 Ayr d 16aug 1920 Ayr they married 26nov1880 Ayr so all the locations sort of match,i guess there is a good possibility that Daniel Timoney was the Father of Dublin Dan .Hope i have covered everything again thanks for all the help maybe we have a connection!
Hughie
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Hi Hugh
No, the father of Dublin Dan would possibly be GEORGE Timoney.
GEORGE TIMONEY was also from Ayr so it's inching towards it being very possible that he was Dublin Dan's father BUT I don't see how we can prove it :'(
Dathai and Gaffy are working on a 'Daniel Christie' in Dublin whom has very similar address' to Bessie BUT are you saying that her father was born, lived and died in Ayr ?
Hum, the records that I am seeing for a Daniel Christie in Dublin was a single labour and the same age as her father BUT that means it can't be one and the same person.
Either he's connected to Bessie in another way OR it's coincidental.
Tara
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The George Timoney that emmigrated to the US did so in 1904 from Glasgow so he was still 'this side of the pond' in the right time frame !
Tara
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HUGH
BTW How amazing is Dathai to have gotten that cert for you ;D
Tara
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Hi Tara
Sorry that of course should have read George not Daniel,your reference to Bessie i assume is ELiz Brown Christie my grand mother if so yes her father was born married and died in the Ayr,Newton StQuivox area of Ayrshire as was his father Hugh Hunter Christie and his father of course another Daniel b1807
Hughie
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Hi,
Yes I referred to her as Bessie, as from what I recall that was how she addressed herself on the 1911 Census.
Do you have her on the 1901 Scottish Census ?
I don't have any access to Scottish records or any great experience with them.
I would have a look at the George Timoney that Gaffy refers to in 1901, see if he lives anywhere near your Christies.
Tara
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Also,
Did she have a sister called Mary ?
Tara
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Hi Tara
no sister named Mary that i have come across other than her mother,i have her with her parents on the 1901 scottish census i will have a look for George
Hughie
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Hi
No George Timoney on the Scottish Census lots of Timoney's in the Glasgow area none in Ayr
Hughie
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I'm afraid I can't add much more to this. The forename/surname combination of George Timoney is the key here, because it is quite rare, and everything I've seen in various sources points to the same person. The occupation of grocer extends this relative rarity further.
George Timoney was born in Ayr in 1885, his father William (turns out what I thought was "Mr" was actually "Wm"!) was a grocer and he hailed from the St.Quivox parish area, a half mile or so to the north east of the town. In 1901, grocer William Timoney and his grocer's assistant son George were living in Allison Street, right in the thick of the town. In 1904, George headed to the States (the record says he was single, born Ayr, a grocer) where he settled and married, popping back to Scotland a few times in the following decades.
Thanks to Dathai you know that Daniel Christie Timoney was born 7 October 1902 at 3 Ryan's Terrace to grocer George Timoney and Elizabeth Timoney, formerly Christie, the informant being a Mary Christie present. The 1904 Dublin street directory shows a Daniel Christie at that same address. When Hugh Jamieson Walker married Elizabeth Brown Christie in Dublin in 1905, her address was 11 Fairfield Ave. The 1909 electoral roll shows a Daniel Christie at that same address.
Is it a possibility that the Daniel at 3 Ryan's Terrace in 1904 and 11 Fairfield Ave in 1909 was her father (ie. assuming that the Daniel Christie at reply #28 who died in 1916 was a different one)? And that the birth informant in 1902 was her mother? That is, Daniel and Mary Christie (and daughter Elizabeth Brown Christie) left for Ireland sometime after the 1901 census and before the 1902 birth, spent some years there before returning back to Scotland (before the 1911 census)? Daniel's occupation (shipyard engineer) was easily transferable to that part of Dublin.
As Tara said, I don't think we're going to be able to prove this one.
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No George Timoney on the Scottish Census lots of Timoney's in the Glasgow area none in Ayr
Try George Timony (no "e"), visiting in Partick in 1891, living in Ayr in 1901.
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This man lived in the same area his father worked in the ship yard
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fgu/
Also to note it would be interesting to see if anyone could find any Scottish census links to Daniel Christie's neighbours maybe a whole crew of men came over and were residing in the same area for convenience to work,there are a lot of convieniently sounding Scottish names.
http://databases.dublincity.ie/burgesses/search_new.php?searchtype=street&year=1909&address01=FAIRFIELD%20AVENUE
just a thought.
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Heres one Duncan McLaren
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Fairfield_Avenue/18244/
edited to add
another who married and possibly settled here
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/St__Joseph_s_Terrace/13713/
Thomas McGregor
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Fairfield_Avenue/18232/
Robert Burns
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Fairfield_Avenue/18226/
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Mr John Smellie mentioned in the book above
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Clontarf_West/Hollybrook_Road/5548/
James O'Hara
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Fairfield_Avenue/18210/
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Mr John Smellie left a lasting legacy on the community,unable to find suitable accomodation for his skilled Scottish ship builders he acquired land and built his own houses these 20 unique dwellings at Fairfield Ave,East Wall were based on a Glasgow design and seemingly replicated nowhere else in the city.
http://eastwallforall.ie/
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Fairfield Avenue today
https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.355223,-6.235995,3a,75y,192.83h,86.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWjeLV1L_6YavrxbYTaWhag!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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as a matter of interest who were the witnesses at the marriage also the church might lead you to a possible baptism for Daniel.
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Stunning work Dathai & Gaffy.
Isn't it such a shame that there were no ship records between Ireland and Scotland ~ something I would love for my own tree . . .
I'm not a gambling woman but I'd certainly put good money on this scenario being spot on.
Tara
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Tara that Daniel (Christy) Christie that you found in 1911 is probably this man
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KM7Z-QBL
He probably is the man who died in 1916
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRK5-NJ6
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Yes,
that's the guy allright !
I'll have another poke about to see if I can spot any Scottish Christies !
Tara
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Can you give us the names and ages of your Daniel's children so that we can see if any of them show up in Dublin records ?!
Tara
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Guys,
Was Tyrone Street ever mentioned ?
Tara
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Dathai
the marriage record from Scotlandspeople for Daniel Walker to Eliz Brown Hannah is hard to read but i think the witness's are an Eliz. Anderson who was maybe a sister of a previous marriage to Fergus Woodside Anderson and also a J.G Lamont i cant reHughie
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that should have read " i cant make out the church"
Hughie
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Hughie
I meant the Dublin marriage for Hugh and Elizabeth.
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Hi
sorry so many Elizabeth's
it was i guess a Civil Marriage at the registrars office,the witness's were David Murray and Mary Leighton ,his father was Ferris walker a boilermaker deceased her father was Daniel Christie an Engineer still alive
Hughie
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Interesting,
I can't see the witness' in Dublin ???
Anyone else see anything ?
Tara
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Bingo,
Look what I found for 1905 !
DAVID MURRAY
Age 21
Born AYR SCOTLAND
Residence 176 CHURCH RD DUBLIN
Offence DESERTION FROM H M ARMY
Prison KILMAINHAM
Tara
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HA
He's the David Murray that was living with the Walkers in 1911 !
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Garden_St/136645/
Tara
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David Murray was also a ship worker !
I think this is pretty conclusive that between 1901 & 1911 your Christies and friends came over to Dublin to work, possibly for a contract.
Some stayed, some returned.
Given all these connections between Ayr & Dublin, I would lay good money on Daniel Christie Timoney being conceived prior to the Christies leaving Ayr and coming to Dublin.
He was born here, and Elizabeth's mother Mary was the one whom registered the birth.
From 1905 he was known by his stepfather's name of Walker.
I'm prepared to be wrong though ;)
DNA would have to be done to prove all this ~ and that's a LONG shot ;D
If nothing it's putting a bit more of your Christies around the map !
Tara
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Hi All
Wow!! you folks are good to be able to find all this info and of course the more info the more questions!How did Hugh and Eliz get together with him in Belfast in 1901 and her in Ayr,they somehow must have known each other at sometime to suddenly turn up in Dublin and get married,of course if correct George has now skipped to the USA.If Hugh and Eliz knew each other previously(wink,wink) then he may have thought the child Daniel was his and did the right thing i.e got married but then ELiz would have had to hide the fact that the child was born Daniel Christie Timoney! if in fact this is correct Do you think this is possible?There have never been any family suggestions that Daniel wasnt father by Hugh although there was a family comment at some time that Daniel "didnt look like the other children"another family secret!!
Tara is there anywhere to find details of the desertion of David Murray he must have been a very good friend to be a witness at the marriage and then live with them after his time in jail.
Thanks once again for all your help ,even though we havent proved anything it sure looks like we have something pretty concrete
Hughie
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Hi
I don't have an ancestry account but I'd imagine his military records are there.
They'd be worth following up ~ he could be related ~ you never know !
I'd be under the presumption that they met AFTER 1902 and possibly through David.
It's possible David was transient between Belfast and Dublin.
HA In my head David met Hugh in Belfast, told him he'd a lovely friend called Elizabeth (again she could have been related to David), so he might have said that he'd a lovely cousin in Dublin, and arranged a get together.
Ha Who knows how people meet though!
Tara
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To Clarify
Hugh would have known Daniel wasn't his ~ otherwise the birth cert would be different.
He could have met Elizabeth anytime between 1902 & 1905 in Dublin (through David), fellI in love, got married & moved Elizabeth and Daniel back to Belfast with him.
He was a stand up guy in my opinion and reared Daniel as his own.
Simple.
Tara
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Time lines based on 9 month pregnancies
Daniel born Oct 1902 so most likely conceived in Scotland Feb 1902.
So the Christie family would most likely have arrived in Dublin between Feb and Oct 1902.
Hugh and Elizabeth got married 12 June 1905 and Daniel would be approx 2 yrs 9 months old.
Deborah born 15 Sep 1905 conceived around Jan 1905 puts Hugh in Dublin at this time.
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Re David Murray !
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5CR-Y5L
Tara
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David Murray's father was called Philip Murray and was living in Ayr in 1905.
Tara
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Hugh
Does the surname Gibson appear on your tree ?
Tara
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It appears that David's parent's were Philip Murray and Margaret Gibson ~
Just trying to see if there is a family connection to your Christies !
Tara
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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1113786&id=I216
They are on the 1891 Census but I don't have access to see were they near to the Christies !
Tara
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Tara - a few addresses for David Murray that might help your search.
1891 - 110 George St, Ayrshire
1901 - Craigie Old Gates
1904 (Attestation papers, Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment) - 1st Foot) 126 High Street, Ayr.
He only served 16 days in the army before deserting :)
There are lots of trees for him on Ancestry but all loose him after 1901 until he pops up in Belfast in 1911 and marries Anna Jane Walker in June. Her parents are Campbell Walker and Anna Jane McKay but seem to be based in Derry.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fh8/
Back to you !
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Thanks for that Hasta
HA, sure they would no more have thought that he was in Dublin !
Thanks for that ;D
Tara
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Hi Tara
sorry no GIbson's that i have come across
Hughie
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... There are lots of trees for him on Ancestry but all loose him after 1901 until he pops up in Belfast in 1911 and marries Anna Jane Walker in June. Her parents are Campbell Walker and Anna Jane McKay but seem to be based in Derry.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fh8/
'Sarvagh' in the census is a mistranscription of Garvagh!
By 1911 Campbell Walker is in Belfast-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Norman_Street/138084
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Aghadowey somethings not adding up
Wife's name in 1901 is Anne Jane 1911 its Mary
Young Anne 12 1901 15 1911
George 4 1901 18 1911
John 19 1901 19 1911
say they are married 20 yrs in 1911 circa 1890
yet John 19 in 1901 circa 1880 for marriage
Though i cant see any other Campbell Walker,shoemaker.
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Will have a look for the family in my files :)
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Well, thought it would be simple to sort out but the more information I'm getting the worse it gets :-\
I've been trolling through birth records, directories, valuations and more...
Campbell Walker was in 1901 census living in Garvagh with his family which matches up with 1901 directory: Walker, Campbell, shoe maker. However, I can't see him in valuations for Garvagh 1896-1910. http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/PT1901EFG.htm
Is in Belfast in 1911 census at 9 Norman St. In 1908 directory he's listed in Belfast at same address: 9. Walker, Campbell, boot maker. Next door is the following which seems to be no connection: 11. Walker, Mrs. Deborah http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/nopcomplete1908.htm
There's a 1910 directory online and instead of finding him at 9 Norman St. (or anywhere else under names listings) is the following: 9. Walsh, Mrs. Mary. http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/nopcomplete1910.htm
I'm wondering if 'wife Mary' in 1911 census isn't Mrs. Mary Walsh in view of this death registration:
Ann Jane Walker, age 42, died 9 May 1902 Coleraine district Garvagh sub-district (there weren't that may Walkers in Garvagh)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTXX-Y6T
Thought the children's birth registrations would sort out the ages but it appears neither census shows the correct info.
More checking to do...
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Walker children (with parents Daniel & Jane) from Kilrea (Co. L'derry) baptisms-
- Anne 3 Nov.1850
- James 15 Aug.1852
- Richard 8 June 1854
- Campbell 23 Apr.1859
- Matilda Jane 20 July 1866 (mother Jane Mayberry)
- John 30 Aug.1870 (mother Jane Mayberry)
Child of Campbell Walker & Ann Jane McKay
- John Hamilton born 1 Oct.1880
A Campbell Walker (c1861-1917) death registered in Ballymoney district (which covers part of Kilrea) possibly the Campbell Walker married 1902 (reg.Ballymoney dist.) to Jane Mayberry.
Also found a Campbell Walker born c1861 Ireland with parents Daniel Walker & Jane Fowlas[?] living in Providence, R.I. in 1875. Didn't try to research this family yet.
So, we have Campbell Walker from Kilrea/Garvagh area moving to Belfast but could he be the one who married in 1902 (presuming wife Anne Jane did die in 1902) and then died in 1917 back in Ballymoney district? Certificates certainly needed to confirm or rule out some/all of this.
Children of Campbell Walker & Ann Jane McKay (all in Kilrea sub-district)?
- John born 1 Oct.1880 (see above)
- Daniel born 13 Mar.1882
? Campbell born 10 Nov.1883
? Maria born 26 Oct.1885
- Anna Jane born 26 Apr.1887
? John 11 Jan.1888
- Matilda 25 Feb.1891
- George 7 Nov.1892
- James 21 Jan.1894 (possible middle name James)
- Margaret Mansfield K. born 3 Feb.1902
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hat's off to you Aghadowey that is a rather difficult piece of research.
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Still not sure how/what all fits together :-\