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Looking for descendents of Joseph & Mary liscoe (b 1765 & 1769) in Castletown.Married 1790. Any help
thanks
Tazzie
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Looking for descendents of Joseph & Mary liscoe (b 1765 & 1769) in Castletown.Married 1790. Any help
thanks
Tazzie
Hello Tazzie,
I have posted a reply at this address http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,102749.msg570268.html#msg570268 Link corrected
All the Best, Christopher
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Hi Tazzie
My ggg grandmother was Elizabeth Liscoe, who I believe was possibly a daughter of Joseph and Mary (Wilson) Liscoe, County Meath. Would love to exchange details.
Ashe
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Hi Tazzie
My ggg grandmother was Elizabeth Liscoe, who I believe was possibly a daughter of Joseph and Mary (Wilson) Liscoe, County Meath. Would love to exchange details.
Ashe
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Hi Ashe.....
I know the name is rare and not many have Liscoe in their tree. So I am collecting everything I can about the family name as well as my own tree.
The furthest back for definate at the moment is Richard Samuel Liscoe who was born in Kent (Sydenham/Beckenham ) To parents George & Mary. I take these to be George Welsted Liscoe and Mary Bargrove. Other children inc William 1815/ Mary 1816/ George Thomas1819/ John Bargrove1821/ Charles1824 & Harriet 1826.
From IGI I listed all Liscoe/Lisco spellings whilst trying to track down the William Liscoe b @1824 who can be seen in the US census records. He states born England on some and Ireland on the others. His family go on to found Lisco in Nebraska. I have everything on the family going forwards and have spoken to a guy in America who handles the Lisco family site and he has the American details.
I was trying to get the link between the families in the UK and those in Ireland. Meath does seem to be the main spot for them.
Any ideas on the link?
Tazzie
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Hi Tazzie
Perusing your details the only link that I can come up with is maybe the William born 1824, is a cousin of my gg grandmother Jane born 1829. Jane's parents were Huston & Elizabeth (Liscoe) Burns. Both of them were born Castletown, C Meath, and were married there. There was also a son named William (confirmed) who was a Reverend at Wexford - one of Jane's brothers.
I have Joseph and Mary as Elizabeth's parents (not confirmed), however everything points that way, and am determining confirmation and searching for siblings at the moment.
Jane married in Bailieborough C Cavan, and then emigrated soon after to Australia.
Regards
Ashe
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Hi: My great-great-great grandmother was Bessie Liscoe of Mentrim House, Co Meath. She married John McCabe, a labourer and a Catholic, and so was disinherited and disowned. She had, I think, 5 or more children the names I know are: Michael (my G-g-grandfather, Edward, Bridget, James and Ellen.
She had two brothers, Anthony (1831-1915), unmarried, and Joseph (1853-c.1912) who has two mentions of marriage; either he was married twice, or there is a mistake; to Jane Shekleton, and to Mary Jane Sillery, who is mentioned as the mother of Robert Young Liscoe. In his will, which I have seen, Anthony bequeathed Mentrim House to his 'nephew' Robert Young Liscoe, of Columbus Platt County, Nebraska. He then sold it back to another member of the family.
Mentrim is now demolished, apart from one or two farm buildings.
Bessie Liscoe was a remarkable and courageous woman: having been cut off from the Liscoes, she bore the above children to John McCabe (at their wedding they had to use the door key as a ring as they couldn't afford a real one), and was widowed young. Her own family refused help, and she built a house literally with her own hands, at Kilbeg, Co Meath, a neighbour thatched it for her, and there she brought up her family. Three children emigrated to the US; Edward and Bridget to Fort Collins, Colorado, and Ellen to somewhere else. Edward's daughter married and moved to Kansas City (no married name known). James emigrated to Liverpool, England.
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Hello Bruno...
Welcome to Roots chat..
So another Irish connection here then. I am still fighting to get up to London which is not easy with school age children around so I can check out LMA for early records. My earliest is Samuel Liscoe who was the wharfinger at Hays wharf in London his son George married Mary Bargrove(my 4x great grandparents) his son Richard Samuel / his son George Richard/ his son Richard Samuel/ my grandad Also Richard Samuel and dad and me.
There has to be a connection but so far it has eluded me and Ashe as well. I see Ahse has posted on a couple of Irish sites and I have a whole load of info about the Liscoe/Lisco families that went to America via Canada ie William Lisco and his wife Martha Shiels and have followed their progress across America to Lisco Nebraska. I need to connect the early couples in London...
Thomas & Ann
William & Mary
John & Ann
Samuel & Mary. If I can find details on the marriages of any of these I may have some luck and there may be a notation in the details that will give us a clue. Samuel is as far as I can go for now . He can be found mentioned on some of the old bailey site as having variuos things stolen from him at the wharf. I am hoping to see a letter written by him to the Royal Society of Arts in London in 1802 when he applied for the post of register. So I hope to be able to escape in the holidays for a day. If I do I will be able to let you know if any success.
Will be in touch..
Tazzie
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Hi Tazzie, I have just seen this post. My great-grandmother was Catherine Liscoe (Kate) who married Walter Rountree in 1840. She came from Yellowleas, Meath. I believe that Joseph Liscoe in the Griffith's Valuation must have been either her brother or father. I have no details on who her parents were, although Ancestry gives me hints to Araminta Sophie Sillery being the mother as she appears to have married someone Liscoe. I have found the Sillery family in Mentrim, Meath. Joseph and Araminta continue to be used by Walter & Kate's descendants.
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Free mans Journal November 1856
Incumbered Estates
The estate of Henry Harvey Sillery, Matilda H Morrison, Araminta S Liscoe, Henry Prendergast, Catherine Prendergast and Marion Prendergast owners exparte Robert Corbet petitioner.
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St. Peter's Church of Ireland, Drogheda - Burials
Sillery Anthony 30 July 1803 00
Sillery Henry 20 April 1811 13
Sillery Jane 21 June 1813 75
Sillery Martha Slane 04 December 1841 78
Sillery Araminta Mentrim Co.Meath 11 March 1847 age 90
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Sillery, Anna Lucretia, 1815, Drakestown etc., t, 1949, Kilbeggan, Co. Westmeath, e052
Sillery, Henry, 1815, Curroghbeg etc., o, 1949, Slane, e053
Sillery, Sophia Chriatiana, 1815, Drakestown etc., o, 1949, -, e052
Sillery, Wm. Joseph, 1815, Curroghbeg etc., w, 1949, -, e053
Sillery, Wm. Joseph, 1815, Drakestown etc., w, 1949, Dublin, Attorney, e052
Sillery, esq., Charles Henry, 1815, Drakestown etc., o, 1949, -, e052
http://jbhall.clahs.ie/title_deeds_ryan_to_speer.htm
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Historical Notes on the Townlands of Drakestown and Kilpatrick
Dermot MacIvor
Journal of the County Louth Archaeological Society
Vol. 12, No. 1 (1949), pp. 21-81
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SALLERY, WILLIAM, Greenhills, Co. Meath, gent. 20 March 1816. Full V p. 29 July 1816. z
To my nephew Wm. Sallery, eldest son of my brother John Sallery, deceased, my interest in the lands of Greenhills. Sole exor. Fras. Hopkins, Rockfield, Co. Meath, Esq. Witnesses: Henry M. Blackwell, Collon, Co. Louth, doctor of physick, Anthy. Sillery, Mentrim, Co. Meath, gent., and Columb Balfe, Bigstown, Co. Meath, farmer.
Memorial witnessed by: said Anthy. Sillery and said Columb Balfe. 705, 141,483077 Wm. Sallery (seal) the legatee Sworn at Ardee 28 June 1816
http://www.irishmanuscripts.ie/digital/Registry%20Of%20Deeds%20Abstracts%20Of%20Wills%20Vol%20III%201785-1832/data/search.xml
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Just an example of one of the Sillery Marriage Agreements, Morrison also mentioned
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-7LQF?i=93&cat=185720 and next page...
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Diocesan & Prerogative Marriage Licence Bonds (index)
Araminta sophia Silliey to Henry Liscoe Meath 1821
Catherine Liscoe to Walter Roundtree 1840
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http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/meath/photos/tombstones/meath-castletown/target1.html
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https://sites.rootsweb.com/~irlmea2/Church/parish_of_castletown_kilpatrick.htm
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Hello all..... been a while since I've worked on the Irish connection. Cjrc welcome to rootschat.
Sinnan and hallmark hello........still trying to trace the origin of the name. I've spent ages ploughing back through London parish registers for the earliest combination of the name. So far alternatives are Lythgo/e Lythgoue.....Lythgow ....and the same starting with Lis.
Maybe time to pull the paperwork out and have a play about with it. Many thanks for the links and the will that will tie a few names together.
Tazzie
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In his will, Anthony bequeathed Mentrim House to his 'nephew' Robert Young Liscoe, of Columbus Platt County, Nebraska.... so if you can find out any clues as to the location, date etc of this Will maybe it holds further clues?
Too vague for me to even start looking for as I haven't a clue as to even What Century, let alone Decade it was.
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An Anthony Liscoe Mentrim died May 16 1915 aged 90 years. (Irish Independent)
His lands (100 acres)appear in the paper for rent by the rep of A Liscoe for several years from 1915 to 1927.
There is land in Mentrim sold by Mrs Jane Liscoe in 1921 must be different land.
Mentrim House gets no results.
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There is this marriage in 1881 in Platte Nebraska .
Mr Robert Y Lisco and Miss Mary J Sillery.
Groom's father William Lisco mother Martha Shields.
Brides father Nathaniel Sillery mother Isabella Shields.
Robert is 26 born in New York and Mary is 20 born in Ireland.
In 1880 Mary Sillery is with William & Martha as niece.
Robert and Mary J have a son Robert Young Lisco jnr in 1899.
Tazzie
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There is this marriage in 1881 in Platte Nebraska .
Mr Robert Y Lisco and Miss Mary J Sillery.
Groom's father William Lisco mother Martha Shields.
Brides father Nathaniel Sillery mother Isabella Shields.
Robert is 26 born in New York and Mary is 20 born in Ireland.
In 1880 Mary Sillery is with William & Martha as niece.
Robert and Mary J have a son Robert Young Lisco jnr in 1899.
Tazzie
Have you found any link for your lot ever being in Ireland??
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Hi hallmark......simple answer is no. It was finding Robert Young Lisco's father as born in England on the census that first led down this path.
My line in London is from the early 1700's before that the spelling changes so I'm still sorting.
There is the name Lisgo in the North of England and there is a Liscoe farm at Out Rawcliff in Lancashire..
Still a work in progress.
Tazzie
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Historical Notes on the Townlands of Drakestown and Kilpatrick
Dermot MacIvor
Journal of the County Louth Archaeological Society
Vol. 12, No. 1 (1949), pp. 21-81
No Liscoe mentioned.... on anything.
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Infants born in Irish Workhouses and attempted to be reared therein; Return of Healthy Infants sent out to Nurse by Boards of Guardians in Ireland, and attempted to be reared in Homes of Foster Parents, 1872-74