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Herbert Palmer Morton (1897-1954) Victoria.
I am seeking any information about Herbert Palmer Morton, b 1897 Near Herbert River, North Queensland, and died in 1954 Fitzroy, Victoria.
Palmer fought in Gallipoli, Egypt and France during WWI.
According to Electoral Roll the year he died (1954), he was living at 6 Percy Street, Fitzroy with his wife, Louisa Adelaide Morton. When did they marry? Were there any children? Any information would be appreciated.
Was there a death notice? Thanks.
Aussie_Gnome
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His wife was Louisa Adelaide CHAMPION. She was previously married to John MCLAUGHLIN 1925 #4672.
Birth:
Louisa Adelaide CHAMPION b.1897 PRAHRAN #22029
Father: Fred Jno
Mother: Emily WILLIS
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Deaths:
Louisa MORTON 79yrs d. 1977 GREE #6162
Father: Frede CHAMPION
Mother: Emily WILLIS
Herbert Palmer MORTON 57yrs d. 1954 FITZ #8592
Father: Charles
Mother: Sarah UNKNOWN
They are buried together at Fawkner Memorial Park:
http://mapping.fcmp.com.au:1001/PubMapping/index.aspx
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Merlin
Wonderful help. Thanks so much for your valuable information.
I would still be interested if anyone else has further details on whether Palmer and Louisa had any children. Those children would be my mother's first cousins.
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I highly doubt there are any children for Herbert & Louisa given her age when they married.
Her first husband died in 1947 & it appears Louisa was married to Herbert by 1949. You can see the alteration of her name change on the ERolls at the same address with her first husband John & then with Herbert.
I assume you have the details of Herbert's first marriage in QLD?
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Thanks again Merlin
I am aware of his first wife Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON. A warrant was out for him as he deserted Alice after returning from the war and ended up in Melbourne. There is another woman (we only have the details Rose Lillian for) which he may also have married at some point between Alice and Louisa. It seems bigamy was at play and he had lost his way after the war. We cannot know how it affected them I guess...
Attached is a clipping from the newspaper about his desertion (May 1927)
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No marriage appears on the indexes in Victoria up until 1942 for Herbert Palmer MORTON or any variation.
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Hi,
His brother, Cecil Charles Morton also served in WW1 and he won an MC in 1918.
Gerry
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1895 Queensland State Electoral Roll
Charles Robert Morton, State School, Maytown.
1900 Queensland State Electoral Roll
Charles Robert Morton, Rosevale State School, teacher, qualified to be on the roll by residence 5th Dec 1898.
Gerry
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Thanks for your further information.
Herbert Palmer MORTON married Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON in 1922 and they did have a daughter prior to his desertion in 1927. Details of that daughter remain a mystery.
Alice was born in Parramatta, NSW in 1899. BD&M in NSW only lists her mother as Alice M and father as unknown. I would also love to find out more details of their daughter whom would be my mother first cousin.
Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for your further information.
Herbert Palmer MORTON married Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON in 1922 and they did have a daughter prior to his desertion in 1927. Details of that daughter remain a mystery.
Alice was born in Parramatta, NSW in 1899. BD&M in NSW only lists her mother as Alice M and father as unknown. I would also love to find out more details of their daughter whom would be my mother first cousin.
Thanks in advance.
I am not sure what information you have about Alice Maud PRITCHARD/DUTTON.
When she gave birth to Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON in NSW, she registered the birth in two different forms.
14892/1899 PRITCHARD Alice V D
Father-
Mother Alice M
At PARRAMATTA
14892/1899 DUTTON ALICE V P
Father-
Mother Alice M
At PARRAMATTA
It makes it difficult to be certain which was actually Alice Maud’s birth name- PRITCHARD or DUTTON, but her death in Qld reads it as PRITCHARD. ;D
1956 B15566 Alice Maud PRITCHARD
Parents William & Ann DAWES
She is interred with her daughter, Alice Vera, but under the name DUTTON.
https://online.brisbane.qld.gov.au/cemeteries/cemeteries_step2.jsp
Note also that Alice Vera died under the surname BORLAND.
The Electoral Roll in 1943 has
Alice Vera MORTON at 12 Sherriff St. Petrie Tce. Paddington (Brisbane) A housemaid.
At the same address is Alice Maud DUTTON (her mother)
Also there is Ruby Edna DUTTON She is a shop assistant.
She was another daughter of Alice PRITCHARD.
Here is her death in the surname SUMMERS.
1949 B23711 Ruby Edna SUMMERS - Father- Mother Alice Pritchard
She appears on the Electoral Roll of 1949 as SUMMERS with a chap of that surname. Their address is in South Brisbane
This link to the burial of Ruby Edna SUMMERS
https://online.brisbane.qld.gov.au/cemeteries/cemeteries_step3.jsp?mapdisplay=213346
Sue
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Thanks Sue
That is wonderful news. I need to absorb all that and try and make sense of it. But invaluable information.
Thanks again.
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Nice work Sue.
Gerry
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Herbert Palmer MORTON married Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON in 1922 and they did have a daughter prior to his desertion in 1927. Details of that daughter remain a mystery.
Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON's second husband was Robert BORLAND he also appears on the ERolls.
Robert is also buried at Lutwyche Cemetery.
https://online.brisbane.qld.gov.au/cemeteries/cemeteries_step3.jsp?mapdisplay=28462
There are memoriam notices up until June 2014 for Alice & Robert that show the names of her children Neville & Clare (both deceased) & another daughter still living was the one who placed these is also named.
They are online:
http://tributes.couriermail.com.au/notice/38582067/view
http://tributes.couriermail.com.au/archivenotice/2456629/view
http://tributes.couriermail.com.au/archivenotice/2450111/view
http://tributes.couriermail.com.au/archivenotice/2442086/view
http://tributes.couriermail.com.au/notice/40002033/view
http://tributes.couriermail.com.au/archivenotice/2472379/view
http://tributes.couriermail.com.au/archivenotice/2455597/view
http://tributes.couriermail.com.au/archivenotice/2444797/view
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Hi A Gnome,
I have PMed you with further information.
Sue
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Herbert Palmer MORTON married Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON in 1922 and they did have a daughter prior to his desertion in 1927. Details of that daughter remain a mystery.
Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON's second husband was Robert BORLAND he also appears on the ERolls.
Just noting here that Robert BORLAND appears at the 12 Sherriff Street, Petrie Terrace Paddington address in 1937.
He is a waterside worker.
Others listed there in 1936 and 1937 are-
Ruby Enda DUTTON,
Alice Maud DUTTON
Alice Vera MORTON
Sue
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Hi,
Funeral Notice for Robert Borland of 83 Caxton St Petrie Terrace in April 1947.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/49329960?searchTerm=
Gerry
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http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/175055100?searchTerm=%22Herbert%20Palmer%20Morton%22&searchLimits=
Herbert Palmer Morton on a prisoner of war list.
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Hi Aussie Gnome,
The husband of the daughter of Alice Vera (nee PRITCHARD/DUTTON, formerly MORTON, latterly BORLAND) is deceased.
You will have noted her name in the linked In Memoriam given by Merlin in reply #13
I have sent you a personal Message giving the married name of this daughter.
I will send Personal Message now which gives details of the deceased husband.
I am reluctant to make the information public on this board as we have given a lot of information about the background of the woman and she may be living still.
Sue
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Two deaths of interest in QLD in case you do not have them.
1924 B44188 Neville Palmer Allan MORTON
Father Herbert Palmer MORTON
Mother Alice Vera DUTTON
1979 B94107 Clare Ruby CRANE
Father Herbert Palmer MORTON
Mother Alice Vera Pritchard DUTTON
Sue
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1924 Funeral Notice for Neville Morton.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22864100?searchTerm=
Gerry
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1922, Commonwealth Electoral Roll
Alice Vera Morton, West St, Childers, home duties.
Herbert Palmer Morton, West St, Childers, salesman.
1925 Commonwealth Electoral Roll
Alice Vera Morton, Grimes St , Auchenflower, home duties.
Herbert Palmer Morton, Grimes St, Auchenflower, hardware assistant
1926 Commonwealth Electoral Roll
Alice Vera Morton, Coomayanit, Prince St, Paddington, home duties.
Herbert Palmer Morton, Coomayanit, Prince St, Paddington, salesman.
1928 & 1929 Commonwealth Electoral Rolls
Alice Vera Morton, Mrs A. M. Dutton's, Bronte, Central Ave, Paddington, home duties.
1934 Commonwealth Electoral Roll
Alice Vera Morton, Mrs A. M. Dutton's, Bronte, Central Ave, Paddington, home duties
Also in 1934 (probably a move)
Alice Vera Morton, 12 Sheriff, St, Paddington, home duties
1936 and 1937 Commonwealth Electoral Rolls
Alice Vera Morton, 12 Sheriff St, Paddington, home duties.
1943, Commonwealth Electoral Roll
Alice Vera Morton, 12 Sheriff St, Paddington, housemaid.
Gerry
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Thanks Merlin
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To Sparrett, Merlin, Aussie1947 & Whiteout7
Thanks for your valuable input and information that you provided.
As a result of your assistance I have made contact with a descendant who is very excited to hear from me and we plan to meet and share further information and stories of our mutual relative.
Thanks again all.
Regards
Ivan
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Very glad you have resumed connection with your long lost family line.
Hope you enjoy your chats ;D
Sue