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Title: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 12:17 BST (UK)
This for a friend. First place name on the list. We have tried to decipher and look at local areas but can't come up with anything. Any ideas gratefully received.  There's a possibility it could be in Much Dewchurch area but that's not certain.
James Joy 1851 census piece  2443 Folio 536 Page 3
Thanks.
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 12 April 15 12:19 BST (UK)
I think it is Much Marcle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Marcle
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 12:21 BST (UK)
sorry, yes, just edited.  Its the first one  :)
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 12:24 BST (UK)
Changed image  :)
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 12 April 15 12:35 BST (UK)
Mmm... difficult to decipher

here's a link to Herefordshire Place names in alphabetical list

http://www.melocki.org.uk/MelockiPlaces.html#U

ADDED - this is what it looks like to me Lleannitts  ??? Hereford

but there appears to be  NO such place in Hereford

Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 12 April 15 13:08 BST (UK)


Hereford, Llancillo ?

[ SW of Hereford, SW of Much Dewhurst ]

Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 12 April 15 13:11 BST (UK)


Hereford, Llancillo ?

[ SW of Hereford, SW of Much Dewhurst ]

Good find Ray - you could be correct

LLANCILLO, a parish in the district and county of Hereford; on the river Monnow
http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/3243

Parmesan - Do you have James on the 1861 census, did it give his pob?
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 14:39 BST (UK)
Thanks all, I will pass this on and see what he thinks?

On 1861 just says Hereford, K N
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 14:41 BST (UK)
Mmm... difficult to decipher

here's a link to Herefordshire Place names in alphabetical list

http://www.melocki.org.uk/MelockiPlaces.html#U

ADDED - this is what it looks like to me Lleannitts  ??? Hereford

but there appears to be  NO such place in Hereford

looks like Lleannitts to us too  ;D
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 12 April 15 14:42 BST (UK)
I was thinking Llannitto  - pretty sure its meant to be Llan-something
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: SueTeakle on Sunday 12 April 15 14:43 BST (UK)
I agree with Ray, I had Llancillo written on my pad but he beat me to it  ;D
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 14:46 BST (UK)
I agree with the Llan bit, not sure about the end.  It looks like tt and ending in s though I know census writing isn't an exact science  ;D
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Sunday 12 April 15 15:25 BST (UK)
Further digging, UK census has the entry for Llanetts,

James    Joy    65    Labourer    Monmouthshire    1786    Llanetts, Herefordshire

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 15:58 BST (UK)
Thank you. Anyone have an idea what this is shorthand for?

Hereford K N

Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Sunday 12 April 15 16:08 BST (UK)
I am coming up with "Pixley" under the "Wards and Parishes" list.

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 16:09 BST (UK)
I am coming up with "Pixley" under the "Wards and Parishes" list.

Regards

Malky

For KN?
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 12 April 15 16:10 BST (UK)


[ For the first ]

Llancillo is in that list referred to.

Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 16:15 BST (UK)


[ For the first ]

Llancillo is in that list referred to.
Thank you Ray, we are quite liking that  :)
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 12 April 15 16:16 BST (UK)
I agree with Malky

Pixley N-KN [ North Herefordshire ] West Midlands Region
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 16:22 BST (UK)
 ???

but thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 16:26 BST (UK)
Just a note to say, its the same persons birthplace (Llancillo and KN)
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 16:34 BST (UK)
Could you expand on how you arrive at Pixley please?  :)

edit:  Thanks found https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/media/4088829/index_to_ward_and_parishes.pdf?hc_location=ufi

:)
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 12 April 15 16:41 BST (UK)

Whoops, sorry.
I did actually mean to add the link.

'Yertis . . . . .
https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/media/4088829/index_to_ward_and_parishes.pdf
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 16:43 BST (UK)

Whoops, sorry.
I did actually mean to add the link.

'Yertis . . . . .
https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/media/4088829/index_to_ward_and_parishes.pdf

Thanks, friend found.  Excellent link  :)
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 12 April 15 16:43 BST (UK)

You sure it's NOT . . . . .
K N for "knot nown"

 ;D ??? ;D
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 16:49 BST (UK)
do you know, that's how I kept reading it at first  ;D
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: mazi on Sunday 12 April 15 19:20 BST (UK)
I see it as Hereford. Not known.
I will look at the names of some of the large estates, why do we think it's near much dewchurch, is that the previous place on the census.

Mike
Title: Re: Place name help please
Post by: Parmesan on Sunday 12 April 15 19:22 BST (UK)
I see it as Hereford. Not known.
I will look at the names of some of the large estates, why do we think it's near much dewchurch, is that the previous place on the census.

Mike

No, but there is a likely baptism at Much Dewchurch for James Joy, but its not a definite.