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I am new to this. I am interested in the above surnames. My Great Jan a, Millie Thorpe, ne Pipe, had a son with Walter Kerry - my Grandad Cecil Pipe, known as John. Apparently Walter was murdered in Canada after leaving England In 1926. Does anyone have any info?
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Hi,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
It would appear that Millie Pipe's birth record has her name as Millie Victoria Pipe.
This could be Millie on the 1901 -
George Pipe 28 b. Brundish, Suffolk, Stockman in Farm
Ellen Pipe 24 b. Brockford, Suffolk
Victoria Pipe 9/12 b. Brundish, Suffolk
RG13 Piece 1767 Folio 122 Page 10, Laxfield Lane, Wilby, Sufflok.
JJ
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There's a birth of a Walter Kerry -
Walter Kerry
q3 1902, Hoxne, Suffolk
Vol 4a Page 993
The Registration District for this birth is the same as that of Millie Victoria Pipe. so a possibility.
Is this the type of information you are looking for? If you are looking for Canadian records then it would be advisable to post a request on the Canadian board.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/canada/
JJ
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The only Pipe/Thorpe marriage I can see gives the brides name as Mildred
Marriages Mar 1926
Pipe Mildred V Thorpe Plomesgate 4a 1486
Thorpe Harry G Pipe Plomesgate 4a 1486
is this them?
There was a Cecil W G Pipe born in Suffolk in 1920 - is this your grandad? There is no father's name given on the certification (according to options on freeBMD), suggesting that a.he was illegitimate, and b.that the father didn't go to the registrars to register him.
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Walter Kerry, address Framlingham, a 36 year old farmer, sailed 3rd class from Southampton to Halifax, Canada, on 25 March 1926, on the Ascania. He was travelling alone and intending to settle in Canada.
If this is him it's a useful record as we now have an idea of date of birth.
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and there is a Walter Kerry b 1889 with his large farming family in Brundish, Suffolk, in the censuses.
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Hello JJ
Yes my Grandad was Cecil b 1920. He died aged 57. My Great Nana had my Grandad illegitimately. She marriedsomeone Thorpe. They lived at Coddenham. He was buried there.
Sounds like you have found my Great Grandad Walter. The date of birth
is approx 1889 and the ship's details sound accurate. I found Walter's parents graves in Brundish the other day - Walter and Delia. There is also a Hilda Kerry d 1914 aged only 5.
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Thank you for all the exciting info
Tanya Marie
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Oh and my Great Nana's real name was Mildred Victoria
Tanya Marie
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Hilda Kerry was the daughter of Clement Wightman Kerry and Emily Kerry.
Clement (b.1870) and Walter Kerry Snr (b.1862, and the father of Walter Kerry b.1889) are brothers. Therefore it would appear that Hilda was buried with her uncle and aunt.
JJ
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Interesting. So young.
Tanya
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Would that be the Emily Kerry d 1945 headstone I found?
Daughter Gertrude Soanes d 1992 and son in law Robert Arthur Soanes
1997
Tanya
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Yes that would be the correct Emily Kerry. She was 72 when she died in 1945. Clement W's wife was born in c.1872, so it all ties in well.
Gertrude Kerry/Soanes was born q4 1910, Hartismere, Suffolk
JJ
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Robert A Soanes married Gertrude Kerry -
Jun 1935, Hartismere, Suffolk
Vol 4a Page 2789
JJ
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I found the info re Walter Kerry on Ancestry.
I had a look at the newspapers as if the story of his being murdered is true, I thought it might be reported in his family's local paper even though he wasn't living there any more, but there was nothing in the papers.
Tanya Marie, do you have access to any of the sites such as ancestry? And (as you say you're new to this) have you got to grips yet with the free sites like family search, and freeBMD? If not, we can point you to how to get more info from these too.
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No I haven't used the free sites as yet.
Tanya
:)
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http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
this is where the marriage and birth registration information above was found.
https://familysearch.org/
if you go further back, this may come in useful - it also has a lot of info re American data; but some of the info on here has to be treated with a pinch of salt, take it as a suggestion rather than gospel truth!
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If you decide to get any certificates, this is the site for that:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
£9.25 per certificate (if you purchase certs through other sites they can charge you up to £20 or more at a time), and you need information such as year, quarter, page no, etc which you get (for free) from the freeBMD site.
You may not be at the stage of getting any certificates yet but if you do this hobby for any length of time you may find that you start to build a collection of them!
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Hi, Walter was the bother of my grandma Phoebe from Brundish. I remember her taking us, when we were children, to visit Millie, who lived nearby on Church Lane.
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Also Walters mother Delia was called Aldous before marriage. Not sure if you'll see this as your post is from quite a while ago.
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The enclosed may be some help:
First Generation
1. James KERRY was born in Mar 1814 in Denham (near Eye). He was baptized on 18 Mar 1814 in St Mary, Horham. On 6 Jun 1841 he was a Shoemaker in Horham. On 30 Mar 1851 James was a Shoemaker employing 2 apprentices in Brundish. On 7 Apr 1861 he was a Master shoemaker in Brundish. Abode was adjacent to the grocer's shop, the mill and Yew Tree Farm On 2 Apr 1871 he was a Shoemaker & shopkeeper in Framlingham Road, Brundish. James died on 31 Aug 1878 at the age of 64 in Brundish.
James KERRY and Sarah Anne ROGERS were married on 28 Jun 1836 in St Mary, Horham. Marriage witnessed by Samuel Warn & George Rogers Sarah Anne ROGERS, daughter of James ROGERS and Maria STEVENSON, was born in Dec 1816 in Horham. She was baptized on 8 Dec 1816 in St Mary, Horham. On 3 Apr 1881 she was a Servant in The Green, Ubbeston. On 5 Apr 1891 Sarah was a Nurse in Clay Hill, Dennington. On 31 Mar 1901 she was an Annuitant in The Street, Brundish. Living next door to William Kemp She died on 22 Oct 1907 at the age of 90 in Brundish.
James KERRY and Sarah Anne ROGERS had the following children:
2 i. Ann Maria "Maria" KERRY was born in May 1841 in Horham.
+3 ii. James KERRY, born Jan 1842, Horham; married Julia Anna or Juliana POLLARD, 9 Nov 1860, St Lawrence, Brundish; died Dec 1922, Hartismere Registration District.
4 iii. Elizabeth KERRY was born in 1845 in Horham.
5 iv. Ellen KERRY was born in 1847 in Horham.
6 v. Charles KERRY was born in 1849 in Brundish.
7 vi. Sarah KERRY was born in May 1850 in Brundish.
+8 vii. Abigail KERRY, born 1856, Brundish; married John CHAMBERS, Mar 1881, Hoxne Registration District; died Sep 1931, Hartismere Registration District.
+9 viii. Walter KERRY, born 1859, Brundish; married Mary Ann WHATLING, Jun 1880, Hoxne Registration District; died Dec 1950, Owls Green, Dennington.
Second Generation
3. James KERRY (James-1) was born in Jan 1842 in Horham. He was baptized on 25 Jan 1842 in St Mary, Horham. On 7 Apr 1861 he was a Shoemaker assistant in Dennington. On 2 Apr 1871 James was a Shoemaker journeyman in Framlingham Road, Brundish. On 3 Apr 1881 he was a Master shoemaker in Dennington Road, Brundish. On 5 Apr 1891 he was a Shoemaker in Thorofare Road, Church Lane, Brundish. On 31 Mar 1901 James was a Shoemaker in Brundish. He died in Dec 1922 at the age of 80 in Hartismere Registration District.
James KERRY and Julia Anna or Juliana POLLARD were married on 9 Nov 1860 in St Lawrence, Brundish. Julia Anna or Juliana POLLARD, daughter of Henry POLLARD and Harriet Maria COOK, was born in May 1842 in Brundish. She was baptized on 15 May 1842 in St Lawrence, Brundish. On 30 Mar 1851 she was a Scholar in Brundish. Julia died in Sep 1911 at the age of 69 in Hartismere Registration District.