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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: rutht22000 on Saturday 18 April 15 15:51 BST (UK)
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Esau was born in around 1836, baptised on 29 May 1836, son of Hannah Sartin (who I believe is Hannah Sartin, daughter of Richard and Sarah who was born around 1811 in East Coker)
The baptism suggests he was illegitimate - names only Mum - (although I have not seen any evidence to say one way or another) but after that baptism both he and Hannah disappear.
She is not the Hannah Sartin that marries Emanuel Pester in 1841 as there is a father in law Ephraim Sartin living with them in 1851 so I have discounted that Hannah.
Nor is she the Hannah Sartin that marries John Patten in 1840 as that Hannah is far too young.
I can't find Esau dying anywhere so any help where they might have ended up gratefully received
Thanks
Ruth
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Hi Ruth,
Have you seen this marriage -
Name: Esau Sartin
q2 1869 Yeovil
Vol 5c Page 731
JJ
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1901 -
Esau Sartin 55
Elizabeth Sartin 65
George Sartin 21
RG13 Piece 2302 Folio 33 Page 14
This would appear to be the Esau who married in 1869, howvere the age is not correct for the Esau you are researching ???
JJ
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Hi JJ
yes, I don't think that's him. It seems that Esau was born in Halstock in around 1846 marrying Elizabeth Hallett living all his life in Halstock. I think his parents are Joannah/Hannah and Eli.
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There is a Harrison Sartin mentioned in the Knoxville Tennessee City Directory of 1890, as a carpenter on the street 'ss Nelson 4 e Bertrand' in Knoxville Tennessee. (From ancestry)
Just placed here for consideration until we can find more information to disprove the connection.
I can see a Harrison Sartin born about 1867 Kentucky, which might be him.
Esau Harrison Sartin is named in a private tree on ancestry, but birth date about 1839 - is that your tree?
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Thanks all - anyone is worth a look at at the moment ;)
That Ancestry tree is mine - I realised that I had his baptism as 1836 and birth as 1839 (typo :-[) but changed it yesterday so it should show up as 36
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Are you sure that she doesnt marry John Patten:
Marriage is on FreeREG, Hannahs Father RICHARD Sartin, Occp Labourer.
Johns Father is JOHN, Occp Gamekeeper
Has her as age 26 when marrying.
Hannahs Occp is Weaver same as Esaus Baptism
1841 Census
Hardington Mandeville, Somerset
John Patten. 59, Lab
Charlotte Patten, 55
William Patten, 18
Mary Patten, 15
Edward Patten, 10
Next door;
JOHN Patten, 24, Lab**
HANNAH Patten, 27****
Caroline Patten, 1
Age only 4ys out
1811 Baptism for HANAH to Richard/Sarah is there also.
Baptisms;
St Mary, Hardington Mandeville
Parents JOHN/HANNAH Patten
LUCY, 26 March 1843
FANNY, 6 Jan 1845
MARY, 8 June 1846
1851 Census
Closworth, Somerset
HO107/1929/82/9
Hannah FORD, 60, Head, Widow, (Image is 40**), Works in Fields, born East Coker**
Caroline PALLEN, 10
L Pallen, 7
M Pallen, 4
E FORD, 1
So born c 1811!
Marriage Reg, March 1848, Yeovil, 10 863
Hannah PATTEN/William FORD on same page
Trish :)
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1861 in Closworth;
Hanna Ford, 51, born East Coker, Somerset
Caroline Patten, 21
Lucy Patten, 18
Mary Patten, 15
Elizabeth Ford, 11
She might have liked younger men!
Burials;
John PATTEN, 16 Dec 1845, St Mary, Hardington Mandeville, age 29
William FORD, 15 April 1849, All Saints, Closworth, age 23
(FreeREG)
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Thanks Trish
I always forget about FreeREG :-[
There was something I saw that gave her a 10 year plus age difference with the Hannah that married Mr Patten (perhaps it was a transcribing error) that put me off, but that FreeREG marriage does look suspiciously like her... Thank you :)
Now to find where Esau popped off too.....(where did you find his baptism? mine was from a transcript)
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Everything I found is on FreeREG :)
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I couldnt find anything for Esau other than his Bapstism.
I even checked under Harrison for him on Census..
But there are a couple of Esau Harrisons that might be his Father in East Coker in 1841/1851 Census.