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Title: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: James2you on Sunday 19 April 15 09:06 BST (UK)
I really did not know where to post this query, George wed 1896, then the next year he is lost at sea on board boat called Daniel  1897.Can anyone point me in the right direction please.
How do I find out more about this ? Sorry If I have put this on the wrong board.

Cheers
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: chempat on Sunday 19 April 15 09:58 BST (UK)
Where did you find the information that you have on him, just to give us something to start from?

Think this is merchant navy information/guide:

http://www.rmg.co.uk/researchers/library/research-guides/general-introduction/research-guide-a3-tracing-family-history-from-maritime-records
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: James2you on Sunday 19 April 15 10:10 BST (UK)
Hello Chempat, the info came from a lady in Tasmania, all the info on the record reads as ; George William H Postle lost at sea 1897 on vessel Daniel.
Other info given ; Series BT334, Registers & Indexes of Births,Marriages & Deaths of Passengers & Seamen at Sea.

Sorry everyone that is all I have..........

John
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 April 15 11:44 BST (UK)
Might be a coincidence but in the results for deaths at sea on FindMyPast - there was an Edward Postle born 1874 died 1897 on the vessel Daniel.  ???

The reference is the same as what you quoted - BT334

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/deaths-at-sea-1781-1968?yearofdeath=1897&yearofdeath_offset=5&vessel=Daniel

Sandra
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 April 15 11:47 BST (UK)
The same info listed at the bottom of the link below  :-

Ernest Postle - Date of death was 19 June 1897 - Aged 23 years.
Place of death - At Sea - Place of birth British - Yarmouth

Belonging to service -  Ship's name - Daniel
Series - BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea Box 0017.

http://www.shirley-elrick.com/p9619.htm

Sandra

Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: chempat on Sunday 19 April 15 11:50 BST (UK)
?
http://www.shippedia.com/list-by-vessels-name.php?s=a
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: James2you on Sunday 19 April 15 11:59 BST (UK)
Sorry everyone, invaded by inlaws & outlaws, can not now research more, back about 6 if any one is about then ,,,,, Truly appreciate every ones help..


John
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 April 15 12:07 BST (UK)
“What’s the difference between in-laws and outlaws?”

;D ;D ;D 
     
;D ;D ;D
   
;D ;D ;D


 “Outlaws are wanted.”

Have a great day John
Regards
Sandra  ;)



Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 19 April 15 12:11 BST (UK)
Hi

There is a report in " The Standard (London, England), Tuesday, June 22, 1897 " ~ wonder if it's the same man

 " A long procession of disabled fishing boats yesterday reached Yarmouth, after the gale. The Danill ? reported that one of the vessel's hands named ERNEST POSTLE  was washed overboard and drowned ."

claire
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 April 15 12:18 BST (UK)
That's a great find Claire.T - looks as if the lady in Tasmania had the wrong name  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 April 15 12:25 BST (UK)
There is also marriage for Ernest William Postle born 1877 and aged 19 years (father George -lab Postle - Labourer ) to Lily Elizabeth Clement aged 23 years (father Charles Edwin Clement - Lawyer). Marriage took place 3 March 1896 Yarmouth Norfolk. Witness Albert P Postle and Catherine ? Clement

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11667-27496-66?cc=1416598

A birth Registered in March 1876 for Ernest William Postle - Yarmouth - 4 b 12

freereg.org shows

Baptisms 18 Nov 1878 - Postle -  George William Harbord  - Norfolk Great Yarmouth.
Baptisms 18 Nov 1878 - Postle - Ernest William Harbord   - Norfolk Great Yarmouth 


Sandra
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 April 15 12:29 BST (UK)
Looks like the same lady might (quoted in the link below) may have an anc tree listing George William Harbord Postle born 20 Feb 1876 and the spouse listed as Lily Elizabeth Clement with no details.  ???

http://www.shirley-elrick.com/p9619.htm

Sandra
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 19 April 15 13:13 BST (UK)
Hi

Three POSTLE children baptized that same day

Ernest William Harbord
Charles Alfred Harbord
Edgar Ernest Clement

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tinstaafl/Church_Pages/yarmouth_gt_1878.htm

claire
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 19 April 15 13:22 BST (UK)
Charles Alfred Postle appears to marry Elizabeth Postle - St. Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk in 1898. That must be Lily Elizabeth Clements/Postle

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VNNK-BRX

Edgar Ernest Postle married Bella Hendry - March 1897 - Sculcoates - 9d 213

Sandra
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: James2you on Sunday 19 April 15 17:47 BST (UK)
Hello and good afternoon everyone, visitors gone (funny how everyone disappears when the wine bottles are empty & there is no beer in the fridge). I have struggled for the last four years with this Postle line, it is a direct descendant. My grandmothers dad was Ernest Edgar C  Postle & when I found someone else connected who had done so much research, thought that they knew the line.
The ladies web site is the same one that was quoted earlier, & to be fair did find differing names & entries to what I had already, but to be honest she has ticked a lot of boxes. The difficulty is that these Postles have been known by so many surnames over the years, ( Purcell, Porke,Postle) & they have through the census changed first names, for example I have Edgar Ernest C Postle then read records about Ernest Edgar C Postle , Same DOB
Son of George & Catherine, George William Harbord Postle bn 1876 Yarmouth, wed Elizabeth Lily(1st name reversed in records) Clements 1896, the couple had a son Ernest Charles Postle 1897, then Elizabeth wed George`s Brother 23/10/ 1898 Yarmouth Charles Alfred Harbord Postle. The George William Died in 1896/97, What a bloomin can of worms, think I will go & find the beers I hid earlier at least they are easier to find.
Thanks again to everyone for their help.
Cheers
John
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: seaweed on Sunday 19 April 15 21:20 BST (UK)
There were several vessels with the name DANIEL around in 1897. It seems likely, the vessel your ancestor ( only the surname Postle is recorded) was lost from was DANIEL official number 67429 a dandy rigged fishing smack of 42 tons, built in 1873 and owned in 1897 by John H Mayston 55, South Quay Yarmouth. According to the record in BT334 he was swept overboard in the North Sea on 19/6/1897.
It would seem the crew agreements for 1897 have been lost or destroyed. Suffolk record office has them for 1898. It may be worth contacting them to see what they have.
Title: Re: George William Harbord Postle 1876 Yarmouth
Post by: James2you on Monday 20 April 15 21:58 BST (UK)
Hi, just looked again at the notes I had made and read everyones posts, thanks everyone, with there being not one but two POSTLES on the vessel Danill , it looks like they both drowned in the gales, the record appears FindMyPast, Is it possible to find out who the other Postle is, I know about Ernest Postle bn 1874, the entry above his does not give a first name on FYP, I would like to think it was George William H Postle bn 1876.
Date of disaster at sea 19/6/1897 .
A big thank you again every one.

John