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Title: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: neillanes on Sunday 19 April 15 23:25 BST (UK)
Like any info on these people George and sussanh are thora mum dad and thora is my nans mum my nan is Edith maid hayton and her father was Maurice hayton please help my as my nan never knew her mother
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 19 April 15 23:39 BST (UK)
Hi no ages/era given, but is this the George/Susannah you are referring to?

Marriage

George Aaron Hogarth to possibly Susannah Webster March qtr 1907 Sculcoates 9d 273?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: neillanes on Monday 20 April 15 00:53 BST (UK)
Hi yes this is correct I'd like as much information about this as possible about the webster and where is thora buried Blimey so excited thank you so much
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 20 April 15 02:39 BST (UK)
First name(s)   GEORGE AARON
Last name   HOGARTH
Birth year   1887
Birth quarter   2
District   SCULCOATES
County   Yorkshire
Country   England
Volume   9D
Page   202
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 20 April 15 02:43 BST (UK)
1901 census
7, Poplar Grove, Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England
 
George R   Hogarth   Head      Male   38   1863   Labourer Cement Works   Yorkshire,    
Ellen   Hogarth   Wife      Female   38   1863   -   Hull, Yorkshire   
Kate   Hogarth   Daughter   Single   Female   16   1885   Starch Packer   Hull, Yorkshire,    
George A   Hogarth   Son   -   Male   13   1888   Coopers Labourer   Hull, Yorkshire,    
Eliza   Hogarth   Daughter      Female   10   1891   -   Hull, Yorkshire   
Ernest   Hogarth   Son      Male   6   1895   -   Hull, Yorkshire
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 20 April 15 02:59 BST (UK)
George joined the East Yorkshire regiment cycle corp on the 12th August 1914,,he only served 191 days before being discharged as unfit for further service. He suffered a fracture to his leg when he got it caught in a loop of wire,whilst in charge of a hydraulic crane at Immingham docks near Grimsby.He spent 3 months in Grimsby hospital,followed by a further 5 weeks in Hull infirmary. He was described as having a dark complexion,brown eyes and dark brown hair. He was a Wesleyan by religion.
his medal index card can be seen on Ancestry.

First name(s)   George
Last name   Hogarth
Service number   1036
Rank   Cyclist
Corps   East Yorkshire Regiment
Service record   Soldier Number: 1036, Rank: Cyclist, Corps: East Yorkshire Regiment
Archive reference   WO372/9
Archive reference description   Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 20 April 15 03:04 BST (UK)

First name   THORA
Last name   HOGARTH
Birth year   1914
Birth quarter   2
Mother's last name   WEBSTER
District   SCULCOATES
County   Yorkshire
Country   England
Volume   9D
Page   376
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 20 April 15 03:10 BST (UK)
So Thora married Maurice W Hayton in 1933...looks like she then remarried in 1954 to a Harry Turnbull....she then dies in 1980  as Thora Turnbull ?  the death is registered in the Beverley district,Yorkshire.
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 20 April 15 03:20 BST (UK)
i suspect this is your Susannah,,,but you would need to get her marriage certificate to be absolutely sure.

baptism

First name   Susannah
Last name   Webster
Birth year   1888
Birth date   27 Apr 1888
Baptism year   1888
Baptism date   09 May 1888
Baptism place   Hull, St Mary
Denomination   Anglican
Father's first name   William
Mother's first name   Harriet
County   Yorkshire (East Riding)
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 20 April 15 03:22 BST (UK)
Death index


First name   SUSANNAH
Last name   HOGARTH
Gender   Female
Birth day   -
Birth month   -
Birth year   1888
Age   74
Death quarter   4
Death year   1962
District   HOLDERNESS
County   Yorkshire
Volume   2A
Page   52
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 20 April 15 03:31 BST (UK)
is this one of your old enquiries on the Dalesman website?

Turnbull
I am looking for any relations of Thora Turnbull née Hogarth née Hayton, born 1914. She married Maurice Hayton in Beverley in 1933. She married again and went on to have two more daughters we believe. I would love to meet these people. She had a daughter with Maurice, Edith Maud Hayton, my nan, but she never had anything to do with her. Thora’s mother was Susannah Webster, born 1888, and her farther was George Aron Hogarth. I would love to get in touch with my long lost family. They were from the Sculcoates area. Please, if any one knows anything no matter how small, please get in touch. I have been told Thora died in 1980.
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 April 15 06:48 BST (UK)
1891 Census
Holy Trinity and St Mary, Yorkshire
RG12/3935/49/14
William Webster, 41, Head, Mar, Waterman on Barge, born York
Harriet Webster, 38, Wife, Mar, born York
William E Webster, 20, Son, Unm, Waterman, born Hull
John Webster, 18, Son, Unm, Waterman, born Hull
Charlotte Webster, 8, Daug, Scholar, born Hull
SUSANNAH Webster, 3, Daug, born Hull *****

I am unable to find them together in 1901

Charlotte seems to be with Aunt Susannah Tordoff born c 1837 Mirfield, a Widow
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 April 15 07:16 BST (UK)
1881/1891 Susannah (Charlottes Aunt) seems to be married to Heny Tordoff (no children with them)

1891 Susannah/Henry TORDOFF they have a Charlotte WEBSTER, age 78, Mother in Law (Mother), Widow, born c 1813 Lockwood with them.

Possible Marriage FreeBMD 1877;
Henry Tordoff/Susannah Horsfall on same page

1881 we have;
Mary Ann Webster, 62, Head, Widow, Pawnbroker
Charlotte Webster, 27, Neice, Unm
Charlotte Webster, 68, Sister in Law, Widow, born Lockwood**
Mary Ann Batty, 60, Servant

1871 Charlotte Webster is a Widow, at 2 Vine Court, St Mar,  Lodging Housekeeper


Ok,
Susannah WEBSTER age 22 (1837) married John HORSFALL age 23, 8 Sept 1859, Dewsbury, Yorkshire
(Familysearch.Org)
Fathers WALACE Webster and WILLIAM Horsfall

So Susannah 1837 born Webster marries John Horsfall, he dies and she marries Henry Tordoff


Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 April 15 07:23 BST (UK)
1851 we have in Mirfield;
John Holt    32
Martha Holt 35
Webster Holt 9
John T Holt 5   
Susannah Webster 14 Neice*****

So Martha is likely nee Webster

Marriage Reg
1839 Dewsbury;
John HOLT/Martha WEBSTER on same page
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 April 15 07:33 BST (UK)
1861 Census
Hull St Mary, Yorkshire
RG9/3589/81/19
Wallace WEBSTER, 54, Head, Mar, Sloopman/Seaman, born Stanfield
Charlotte, 52, Wife, Mar, born Huddersf
Henry, 18, Son, Sloopman
Elizabeth, 16, Daug
Abran, 14, Son
WILLIAM, 12, Son, born Hull*****

1851 we have;

Wallis Webster    48, Sloopman/Seaman
Charlotte Webster 49
Mary Webster    18
Jane Webster    11
Henry Webster    9
Elizabeth Webster 6
Abraham Webster 4
WILLIAM Webster 2*****
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 April 15 09:33 BST (UK)
To confirm all of this now we know Williams Father was Wallace';

Marriage;
8 April 1871, Hull, Yorkshire
William WEBSTER age 20, Father WALLACE Webster
Harriet WARILOW age 19, Father JOHN Warilow
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 April 15 10:14 BST (UK)
Re your PM about Maurice Hayton;

Likely Birth Reg,
Maurice W Hayton, Sept 1914, Bverley, 9d 180
Mothers maiden name Hayton

This could mean he was illegitimate.

Death Reg;
Maurice W Hayton, March 1950, Nottingham, 3c 462
Age 35

Now have you checked FreeBMD for Births to Maurice/Thora?

If you put in;
Hayton, Births- 1933-1950, Mothers maiden name Hogarth, 3 girls will come up 1933/1937/1938
I cant post here as they may be living.


I have PM'd you extra info.

Trish :)
Thora and Harry Turnbull married 1954 (FreeBMD)
Title: Re: sussanh webster George hogarth thora hogarth
Post by: Kazza1960 on Monday 02 May 16 01:52 BST (UK)
Not sure if this link is still active.....I am Thora Hogarth/Hayton/Turnbull`s grand daughter and have just started to research my family tree. These links came up in a search in Bing.
I would very much love to get together to discuss any information that`s available reguarding Edith Maude. No one in the family has ever known of her existence until now.....she had two sisters but the story goes that Maurice Hayton left Nana Hayton. I would dearly love to connect with someone and fill in the gaps.
Thank you so much
Karen. :)