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Title: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: trystan on Monday 20 April 15 17:47 BST (UK)
Hiya all,

We've had to make a few changes to the RootsChat "home" page. None of the changes alter the main forum itself.

The changes have been put in place so that it can be better viewed on Tablets and Mobile devices. It also means we will not be penalised by search engines for not having the page accessible to these devices.

It's a bit rough around the edges at the moment (I'm sorry), but over the next week or so it should look a bit more like it did. So my apologies for it not being ideal, or quite right at the moment.

Trystan
RootsChat Support
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Guy Etchells on Monday 20 April 15 19:40 BST (UK)
Yes Trystan, I wondered what had gone wrong when I attempted to login today.
It took a minute or so to find the link to the forums.
Not that I stayed on the home page long but it was a surprise.

Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: trystan on Monday 20 April 15 19:47 BST (UK)
Guy,

I'm glad you managed to find your way back in. It wouldn't have been half as much fun otherwise. :)

Trystan
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Joyful on Tuesday 21 April 15 07:53 BST (UK)
What has happened to the usual Rootschat page? Have I missed some announcement??

I don't like the current page, it's hard to read >:(

Joy
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: youngtug on Tuesday 21 April 15 07:57 BST (UK)
Do you mean this; http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=718717.msg5624610#msg5624610
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Joyful on Tuesday 21 April 15 08:09 BST (UK)
Guess that's it youngtug...I understand the reasoning behind it but what a schmozzle ::)

Joy
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: alpinecottage on Tuesday 21 April 15 08:14 BST (UK)
Really difficult to read on the laptop!  but I'm pleased it's not my machine that's playing up.  Hope the refinements kick in soon though.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: roopat on Tuesday 21 April 15 08:32 BST (UK)
I find it hard to read on my tablet. Hopefully the final version will be easier.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Finley 1 on Tuesday 21 April 15 08:34 BST (UK)
It scared me :( ..... why does getting older make change scary :( 

oh dear....

Adam Faith  'Poor me'  comes to mind..

(its ok I am still sane -- I think :) )

xin
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Finley 1 on Tuesday 21 April 15 08:36 BST (UK)
Yahoo -- is terrible  -  Nothing works on Yahoo - anymore :(  Chrome is OK - but scary..

I will cope ---- I will cope ---- etc....

xin
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 21 April 15 08:46 BST (UK)
I thought it was just me. Trystan assures us it is temporary, so that's good.  ;)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 21 April 15 08:48 BST (UK)
So, a work in progress Trystan?  ;)

I thought it was just me.


Topics merged.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: DavidG02 on Tuesday 21 April 15 10:55 BST (UK)
I like the new curtains  :)

Joy..not so joyful then?  8)

xinia...if you are quoting Adam Faith then getting old has already happened  ;D

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:35 BST (UK)
To Trystan

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: trystan on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:37 BST (UK)
Malky,

Thanks for that. :) Can you show me a screenshot when it's scrolled to the top of the page too please?

Trystan
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:39 BST (UK)
No problem

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: trystan on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:44 BST (UK)
Malky - thanks for that :)

So when you press "Home", does it just keep you on the same page?

Do the other bit's on it work, like when you press "Forum" does it take you to the main forum page of RootsChat?

Trystan
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:47 BST (UK)
The "Home" link just stays on the page, as per the 2 screen clips. All other tabs seem to work OK.

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: DavidG02 on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:48 BST (UK)
Trystan

I entered and found that pressing the Forum button took me to the Forum. I then navigated as usual.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:48 BST (UK)
Quote
It's a bit rough around the edges at the moment (I'm sorry), but over the next week or so it should look a bit more like it did. So my apologies for it not being ideal, or quite right at the moment.

Well done on keeping us informed and being honest to admit it is not ideal or quite right at moment - many websites don't bother and leave users guessing/totally confused/frustrated.

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: trystan on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:51 BST (UK)
Malky,

That's because it's already on the "home" page.

It can't get any more homlier (unless we turned on a nice log fire on the screen, and brought in a cat to sit infront of it). I'm being silly.  :)

The old page did the same: www.rootschat.com/links/01f6g/ (mind you you can't test that on the old page, because pressing "home" on it will tak you to the new "home" page)

Trystan
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:55 BST (UK)
I'm old and used to the old ways, of steam driven 5¼ " floppy disk drives. I remembered that the home page was different, which it was in layout terms. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
Truth be told, i never used to Home page tab, I always update through the toolbar.

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: trystan on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:58 BST (UK)
Malky,

It's hard teaching new dogs old tricks too. You're doing great :)

It's a work in progress. Here's a BBC News article about the whole thing that explains why we had to do something, and that something had to be done before today: www.rootschat.com/links/01f6h/

Trystan
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: jaybelnz on Tuesday 21 April 15 12:07 BST (UK)
Nothing wrong with it - looks good! 👍👍

What's the problem!  You wanna try navigating through the woods at the Victoria (Aust) BDM Website!  Diabolical!

Cheers
Jeanne 😄

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: ReadyDale on Tuesday 21 April 15 15:00 BST (UK)
Malky,

It's hard teaching new dogs old tricks too. You're doing great :)

It's a work in progress. Here's a BBC News article about the whole thing that explains why we had to do something, and that something had to be done before today: www.rootschat.com/links/01f6h/

Trystan
Hi Trystran,
Crazy of Google to force through all sites must look good on mobiles and ****** how it looks on PC/Laptop. Did they not learn anything from Microsoft's debacle with Windows 8?

Anyways, not your fault, so my feedback - it looks OK on Chrome, but really awful on IE9 (which is all our work PCs are allowed  >:(
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 21 April 15 15:01 BST (UK)
I think I might be a little different from the others. The "Home" page is where I hang out the majority of the time.

I realise there are things to iron out, but at the moment the images at the top of the page (which used to be on a panel on the right hand side and at the bottom of the page) are really over dominating, and the topic list is lost.

Unsure how the layout will end up, but to my mind the topics should take up a majority of the page and hopefully all topics should be visible on the screen without having to scroll down.

I'm sure it will all work out fine in the end. I hope it doesn't cause you too much angst Trystan.  ;D

Added: Oh dear - just read the link about the reasons for this - what a pain.  >:(
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: LizzieL on Tuesday 21 April 15 15:47 BST (UK)
Here's a BBC News article about the whole thing that explains why we had to do something, and that something had to be done before today: www.rootschat.com/links/01f6h/

Trystan

I've just read the BBC article link and heard about changes to websites on the news a couple of days ago.
I administer a website for a local group of a charity. I didn't set up the site originally, so I don't know all the details of how it works, I just update the odd page when necessary.
Any tips on how to make it mobile friendly, please?
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: Finley 1 on Tuesday 21 April 15 17:33 BST (UK)
I like the new curtains  :)

Joy..not so joyful then?  8)

xinia...if you are quoting Adam Faith then getting old has already happened  ;D


oohhh    'you are awful - but i like you '    see I am even older than that :) :) :)

ok  get it...
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Rena on Tuesday 21 April 15 18:45 BST (UK)
Here's a BBC News article about the whole thing that explains why we had to do something, and that something had to be done before today: www.rootschat.com/links/01f6h/

Trystan

I've just read the BBC article link and heard about changes to websites on the news a couple of days ago.
I administer a website for a local group of a charity. I didn't set up the site originally, so I don't know all the details of how it works, I just update the odd page when necessary.
Any tips on how to make it mobile friendly, please?

Phew - thought the new layout was due to my computer.  I usually land on the Home page and glance through to see if I can assist anyone, etc.  Currently my old eyes are protesting so I haven't dawdled on the Home page at all.

Now that I've seen Lizzie's post that will probably be the reason why when I've clicked on a search results page I have had to use the Google "cache" otherwise there is no website to view.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Deirdre784 on Tuesday 21 April 15 18:57 BST (UK)
So is the home page supposed to look like this at the moment?
 
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: LizzieL on Tuesday 21 April 15 19:02 BST (UK)
I get the same thing with Internet explorer, but with Google chrome it's a lot better. I have aged laptop which runs Vista and don't have enough memory (or something) to upgrade IE (or so I have been told)


Added

If you click on Forum at the top, mine goes back to normal
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Guy Etchells on Tuesday 21 April 15 19:19 BST (UK)
The "homepage" on my computer looks like this.
It is displayed on a 20" widescreen 16:9 flatscreen LCD monitor at 1680 x 1050 pixels.

In case the techie details help Trystan
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ringrose on Tuesday 21 April 15 19:21 BST (UK)
I find it perfectly OK on the iPad.
Ringrose
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: BettyofKent on Tuesday 21 April 15 19:47 BST (UK)
I'm using a 17" laptop, IceDragon browser (Firefox based) & the Homepage looks the same as Guy's.
It would look better if the 'latest topics' column was centered, the "It's the UK's largest free family history forum site...looks untidy & clumsy.

I've tried it on my Kindle Fire (7") with the  Silk browser, & it displays very well, everything is in one single column.  After browsing I clicked back to the homepage & the black banner with Home, Forum, Help etc had disappeared.
Talking of this banner, could the lettering be clearer please, pretty please ;D it's too dark for my old eyes (I doubt I'm the only one!) & almost blends into the background.


Betty
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Craclyn on Tuesday 21 April 15 19:52 BST (UK)
On an ipad there is something not right with the "Immigration and Emigration" link. Goes nowhere. The others beside it are working OK.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 21 April 15 19:58 BST (UK)
I get the same as Guy....it was a bit unexpected but it all seems fine....we have to accept that Rootschat has to be viewer friendly for all devices to keep their readership. I soon got used to it.
Carol
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Deirdre784 on Tuesday 21 April 15 21:04 BST (UK)
It is a bit better using Chrome, but I prefer IE (though as I'm on Vista I can't upgrade further than IE8 which is causing some problems!).

I also use the home page to look through current topics before going to my areas of interest.

Not a complaint, things always have to move with the times, was just wondering :)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 22 April 15 01:39 BST (UK)
I am seeing the same as Guy at reply #31 on desktop using IE (version unknown) and it looks the same on my ipad using Safari.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: roopat on Wednesday 22 April 15 07:12 BST (UK)
Just a query - on the previous Home page (which I always look at first for current topics), there was always a 'new' sticker on topics when new replies had been made, so if I clicked on that it would take me straight to where I'd last left the thread. I can't see that feature at the moment, hope it will be reinstated - please?!
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page
Post by: DavidG02 on Wednesday 22 April 15 08:47 BST (UK)
I like the new curtains  :)

Joy..not so joyful then?  8)

xinia...if you are quoting Adam Faith then getting old has already happened  ;D


oohhh    'you are awful - but i like you '    see I am even older than that :) :) :)

ok  get it...
Ahh Dick Emery. Giving Brendan O'Connor work long after its use by date.  :P


Just tried on my Android tablet and it seems fine. Home page loaded and looked as it does on my laptop which has windows 7.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Finley 1 on Wednesday 22 April 15 10:06 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D

xin
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: joboy on Wednesday 22 April 15 11:42 BST (UK)
My usual routine hasn't changed,
First I go to 'unread posts' and enlarge on any that I like there and then to the 'common room' and then 'off topic'.
I have windows 7 which I have warmed to so no problems.
Joe
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: mike175 on Wednesday 22 April 15 17:11 BST (UK)
Trystan,

I confess I haven't used the Home page since joining RC some years ago as my browser links straight to the Forum, but prompted by this thread, I have looked and find it far from clear which bits are links and which are plain text or pictures. On the assumption that the Home page is purely there to be found by search engines, maybe a much simpler layout is the answer, consisting purely of links to the different sections of the site.

I also notice that the dropdowns on the menu bar do not display correctly on the Home page, being mostly hidden by the "Fast Free Family History Help ..." div. They are OK on the other pages.

On the plus side, everything resizes correctly when the browser window is resized, which is more than can be said for the majority of sites (I guess the software doesn't allow resizing on the Forum pages?). I am using Firefox 37/Windows 7.

Please don't take any of the above as criticism, this is still one of the best sites I've used  8)

Mike.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Erato on Wednesday 22 April 15 17:19 BST (UK)
Never noticed.  Never look at the home page.  Why would one?  Why not just go straight to the forum page or, better yet, the unread posts page.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 22 April 15 17:24 BST (UK)
No, I don't use the "Home" page either BUT NEWCOMERS to the site will automatically be directed to the "Home" page, and it is for their benefit, not our's that Trystan is making these amendments.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Wednesday 22 April 15 17:25 BST (UK)
Hi Erato,

Once they know the forum, then everyone has their own favourite "front door".
Those who only know the link www.rootschat.com without the extras for the different pages, will always land on the home-page.  So Trystan needs to design it to fit the "specs", as laid out by Google.

regards,
Bob

added: @ BumbleB: Snap !  ;D
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Erato on Wednesday 22 April 15 17:35 BST (UK)
"NEWCOMERS to the site will automatically be directed to the "Home" page"

Well, yes, but newcomers aren't going to be cognizant of any changes.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Wednesday 22 April 15 17:41 BST (UK)
It is not the changes - as changes - that are important here, but why the changes are being made at all. And Trystan has already explained that earlier, even including a link, so we can see for ourselves, why these changes are being made.

www.rootschat.com/links/01f6h/

regards,
Bob

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 22 April 15 17:44 BST (UK)
"NEWCOMERS to the site will automatically be directed to the "Home" page"

Well, yes, but newcomers aren't going to be cognizant of any changes.

They don't need to be cognizant of any changes BUT the home page needs to comply with current specifications.

Once newcomers get to know the site, then they will make their own decisions, as we have over time.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 22 April 15 18:15 BST (UK)
I've now had a proper look at the Home page  :o :o  My only comment might be to move "Piecing it together -  Beginners" to the top of the page.  If you're new to the site, then that might be the most important introduction, rather than "Locations", "Photographs" or "Forces".  Purely a personal view  :-X

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: suey on Wednesday 22 April 15 18:46 BST (UK)

I don't often use the home page either.  How about having all of the pictures and board links along the top with Beginners made more prominent.  I think a lot of people tend to skip the blurb on most sites and jump right in!

I find the "latest topics"  a bit crowded. Is it possible to have fewer with a bit more space between each?
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 22 April 15 23:23 BST (UK)
As I appear to be one of the few who mainly hang out on the 'Home' page, as it is now, I find the list of topics too crowded, difficult to click on due to being so small and cramped, and difficult to discern which is the topic title, and which is the board and what is the name of the member etc.

The way they appeared previously was fine, and presumably it will all eventually be reinstated as it was.

I know there is still work to be done, but I just thought I would add my thoughts due to being one of the few who spends the majority of their time on the home page.  :) The reason I like it is that you can see the new topics and new replies on all boards as and when they appear, and often you come across an interesting topic on a board you do not usually visit.  :)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Joyful on Thursday 23 April 15 03:55 BST (UK)
I use the homepage too Ruskie and find the current one anything but user

friendly :) No doubt it will improve...says she hopefully :D

Joy
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: majm on Thursday 23 April 15 04:03 BST (UK)
I use the homepage too Ruskie and find the current one anything but user

friendly :) No doubt it will improve...says she hopefully :D

Joy


I agree with Joy.  and like Joy, ever hopeful and the HOME page is my favourite .... it is where I start, cuppa at my right hand, scroll through the Home page, and then look at 'my replies', and then look at my own work to do list and then decide if RChat is the better option.  (self employed )..... and RChat regularly wins, but umm.... this home page is too crowded at the minute, and topic headings are taking two lines almost all the time at the moment..... so umm,  I am used to the previous way, and most likely I just need to de frag the grey cells and put order back, but at the moment it looks to be disordered.....

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 23 April 15 04:49 BST (UK)
Glad I am in good company on the home page with Joy and JM.  :)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: BevL on Thursday 23 April 15 04:57 BST (UK)
When I logged in today - it goes straight to 'Forum' and when I click on 'Home' or 'Help;, it takes me back to Forum. The rest work OK.
But I can find all the things I want so I can get all the information I need.
Kind regards
Bev
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: majm on Thursday 23 April 15 07:56 BST (UK)
I wonder if it would be sensible to put the Beginner board up the top so that it is easily found by newbies?  I think the T & C page should be more prominent.    Also, could the writing on the right hand side be smaller than the topic headings please, as umm.... I am interested in topic headings.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 23 April 15 08:19 BST (UK)
I like to see the latest genealogy topics at the top, so I don't have to scroll down (I must look at the latest topics dozens hundreds  of times in an average day). The images moved back to the side and bottom of the page, as they were before, would be excellent.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 23 April 15 08:22 BST (UK)
I'm the opposite to most of you?! ;D

I didn't even realise that there was a Home page; as I never use it?

My "Favourites" link takes me straight into Forum.
And from there I go to [New Replies] and then [Unread Posts].
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: scotmum on Thursday 23 April 15 08:23 BST (UK)
As I appear to be one of the few who mainly hang out on the 'Home' page, as it is now, I find the list of topics too crowded, difficult to click on due to being so small and cramped, and difficult to discern which is the topic title, and which is the board and what is the name of the member etc.

The way they appeared previously was fine, and presumably it will all eventually be reinstated as it was.

I know there is still work to be done, but I just thought I would add my thoughts due to being one of the few who spends the majority of their time on the home page.  :) The reason I like it is that you can see the new topics and new replies on all boards as and when they appear, and often you come across an interesting topic on a board you do not usually visit.  :)

I'm another who uses it as you do.  😊
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: roopat on Thursday 23 April 15 09:25 BST (UK)
Ruskie, Joyful, Majm & Scotmum - me too!

Added - I used to find the 'new' label on the Home Page topics very useful, now I find when I come back to them it's impossible to tell whether something's been added.

Please don't tell me to look at 'Unread topics', I find it irritating.   ;D
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 23 April 15 09:28 BST (UK)
Glad to know I'm in good company.  ;D i just love watching all the new topics appearing, which is why 'Home' is my favourite page.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Deirdre784 on Thursday 23 April 15 09:34 BST (UK)
I'm another 'home' page fan  :)

Home page now looks same on vista as on windows 7 and 8.

Deirdre
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: ReadyDale on Thursday 23 April 15 09:44 BST (UK)
Hi Trystan, Obviously some further changes have been made in the last couple of days, as the homepage I saw in IE9 and commented about on Tuesday (like the screenshot in post #29) has now changed to how I saw it in Chrome (like post #31). So at least it looks more consistant and professional.
Like Ruskie and co, I tend to visit the homepage first to look at more recent postings, in case there is something of interest on a board I never/rarely go on, before moving on to My Replies and then checking out my usual boards. Therefore I am not so keen on the new layout, which bumps that recent list down below stuff I don't really look at. But that is just personal preference.
One thought, on other forums I visit (not FT stuff), they have a page dedicated to recent posts, without it being cluttered with other things. As Google are forcing us to have this new layout, would it be possible to have that here?
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: majm on Thursday 23 April 15 10:33 BST (UK)
Glad to know I'm in good company.  ;D i just love watching all the new topics appearing, which is why 'Home' is my favourite page.

 :)  :)  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 23 April 15 10:52 BST (UK)
Ruskie, Joyful, Majm & Scotmum - me too!

Added - I used to find the 'new' label on the Home Page topics very useful, now I find when I come back to them it's impossible to tell whether something's been added.

Please don't tell me to look at 'Unread topics', I find it irritating.   ;D
I use the homepage too Ruskie and find the current one anything but user

friendly :) No doubt it will improve...says she hopefully :D

Joy


I agree with Joy.  and like Joy, ever hopeful and the HOME page is my favourite .... it is where I start, cuppa at my right hand, scroll through the Home page, and then look at 'my replies', and then look at my own work to do list and then decide if RChat is the better option.  (self employed )..... and RChat regularly wins, but umm.... this home page is too crowded at the minute, and topic headings are taking two lines almost all the time at the moment..... so umm,  I am used to the previous way, and most likely I just need to de frag the grey cells and put order back, but at the moment it looks to be disordered.....


I use the homepage too Ruskie and find the current one anything but user

friendly :) No doubt it will improve...says she hopefully :D

Joy

Prefer the previous layout - this seems a little jumbled at the moment -  :-\  Perhaps a little colour to highlight the board  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Rena on Thursday 23 April 15 11:25 BST (UK)
Ruskie, Joyful, Majm & Scotmum - me too!

Added - I used to find the 'new' label on the Home Page topics very useful, now I find when I come back to them it's impossible to tell whether something's been added.

Please don't tell me to look at 'Unread topics', I find it irritating.   ;D

Me too and I agree with all that's said.    If I specifically want to visit a Board that isn't showing on the Home page, such as "England, Yorkshire" for example.  I don't visit the Forum, I use the Home page "place column" and click on one that shows "England --- " and go from there.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 23 April 15 11:33 BST (UK)
I know othing about such matters but get the impression that the home page has automatically and unintentionally been reformatted and the page 'messed up' due to issues forced upon Trystan and co. I imagine it will all be put right in time.  :)

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: mike175 on Thursday 23 April 15 11:59 BST (UK)
I'm certainly not their greatest fan by a long way, but I don't think it's a case of Google "forcing" anything, just prioritising "mobile-friendly" websites.

Other search engines are available  ;)

If you want your website to be used on mobile devices it is essential to make it fit a small screen. Personally I find it near impossible to use a mobile for any serious browsing, there are just too few words on the screen without constant scrolling.

I think many sites are undergoing similar changes regardless of Google.

Mike.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Rena on Thursday 23 April 15 12:17 BST (UK)
I'm certainly not their greatest fan by a long way, but I don't think it's a case of Google "forcing" anything, just prioritising "mobile-friendly" websites.

Other search engines are available  ;)

If you want your website to be used on mobile devices it is essential to make it fit a small screen. Personally I find it near impossible to use a mobile for any serious browsing, there are just too few words on the screen without constant scrolling.

I think many sites are undergoing similar changes regardless of Google.

Mike.

I realised just how important mobile devices where when lightning blew up my new Windows 7 computer and the insurance replaced it with the then new Windows 8.   I got a shock when I turned it on and instead of seeing the normal Windows page I was faced with umpteen square "things" covering my screen and all mostly had moving pictures in them.

That's when I learned that Windows 8 layout had been designed for the digital mobile market and Apps had had to be incorporated.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: jaybelnz on Thursday 23 April 15 13:00 BST (UK)
The thing is, today's technology has to keep up with the times!  If it wasn't for change, we would all still be stuck in the time warp where we were sitting in little rooms with microfiche and readers, and writing out screeds of info! IF We were lucky enough to find any!!!

We are really very fortunate to have the advantage of new technology that is continuously evolving and have access to anything in the world in an instant!

We are also extremely fortunate and privileged to have Rootschat, at no cost remember, any time of the day or night, any day of the week, and the additional benefit of the collaboration that assists us all.

I for one give 3 cheers to Trystan and his team for the wonderful resource given to us, and right at our fingertips, and for his huge efforts in keeping the site humming and up to date in the 21st century!

And I don't have a "but" or a "why" or an "I would rather" or an "I would prefer", just a huge admiration for the work that these people do and the pleasure it gives to us all!

Thank You, I rest my case!

Cheers (3 this time)
Jeanne 👍👍😄😄

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: HeatherLynne on Thursday 23 April 15 13:17 BST (UK)
Hear hear Jeanne!  Three cheers for the best website (and administrators) on the net !!!   ;D

Heather
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Rena on Thursday 23 April 15 17:26 BST (UK)
Hear, hear, thank heaven for Trystan and the administrators and definitely a big heartfelt thanks from me too..

Over the years we've got used to several changes and we're always asked for feedback so it's not as though I'm criticising anything.   I've even got used to the Home page now that I've used it several times, although I admit it wasn't easy to view initially.

I put my tuppenceworth in about why I've bookmarked and hit the "Home" page first as I was surprised that some people go straight to the "Forum".

Best Wishes,
Rena

 
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 23 April 15 23:43 BST (UK)
Panels, images and so on the Home Page are out of sync and inconsistent with headers of other pages such as Forum, so I am sure they will be fixed up. The graphic/ title panel at top of the page extends beyond the side of the page edges, the dark bar containing Home/Forum/Help etc just below header panel does not extend to the full width of the page. Unsure if I would be correct in calling this a "formatting" issue?  ;) ;D (admit that I know nothing of such matters  ;))

Yes, we do get used to it but I don't think we will have to, as I'm sure Trystan will be sorting it out when he has a chance.  ;)

The location of the images is not such an issue. I'll be interested to know if they will stay as they are or be put back as they were.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: SwissGill on Friday 24 April 15 07:02 BST (UK)
We are also extremely fortunate and privileged to have Rootschat, at no cost remember, any time of the day or night, any day of the week, and the additional benefit of the collaboration that assists us all.

I for one give 3 cheers to Trystan and his team for the wonderful resource given to us, and right at our fingertips, and for his huge efforts in keeping the site humming and up to date in the 21st century!

And I don't have a "but" or a "why" or an "I would rather" or an "I would prefer", just a huge admiration for the work that these people do and the pleasure it gives to us all!

Thank You, I rest my case!

Cheers (3 this time)
Jeanne 👍👍😄😄

I wholeheartedly agree!

My "Favourites" takes me directly to "Database for Special Interests" which saves me going through the normal channels to get to it.

From there I click on the Homepage and then to Forum. I admit that some of the new posts catch my eye and, find myself being absorbed with other people's tales and have to drag myself away :)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: a chesters on Friday 24 April 15 07:33 BST (UK)
I recently went to the library close to home, after about 3 months absence. The logon page there had been changed, again, and trying to find out what was what and where took some time to sort out.

Many companies change their webpages, and do not let anyone know.

Here at least Trystan has let us all know why there are changes here, and the reasons being forced on him, which is much better than going to a website one uses regularly and finding that it has changed without any prior information.

I fully agree with jaybeinz and SwissGill.

AC
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: majm on Friday 24 April 15 07:49 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I am sure that none of us, whether we have posted on this thread or simply read this thread are adversely offering comment about Trystan, or about RChat.   Perhaps I am mis-reading some of the posts from my fellow RChatters, for I seem to be reading it as though there's something wrong with offering commentary, or criticism of the changes.   

I saw no reason to write in my earlier post that I fully support Trystan's efforts to keep us informed.  I come from a generation where offering criticism is encouraged, as it is about seeking to form your own informed views.   

I often find myself wondering about the reasons for x y and z and the reasons against x y and z.    I sometimes think that there's reasons WHY my old school teachers would mark down any of my fellow school students if we wrote "reasons why" instead of "reasons for" and "reasons against".

However, on this occasion, my reason why I did not state that I fully support Trystan's efforts, are, to me, obvious.  I am a regular at Rootschat.  If I did not support Sarah and his efforts, then surely I would not continue to be a member here. 


Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: SwissGill on Friday 24 April 15 08:27 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I am sure that none of us, whether we have posted on this thread or simply read this thread are adversely offering comment about Trystan, or about RChat.   Perhaps I am mis-reading some of the posts from my fellow RChatters, for I seem to be reading it as though there's something wrong with offering commentary, or criticism of the changes.   

Cheers,  JM

I for one was just agreeing with a post - no unpure thoughts of criticism  ;D

Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Joyful on Friday 24 April 15 09:11 BST (UK)
Well said JM, I completely agree :)

Joy
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 24 April 15 13:14 BST (UK)
I agree with JM too.

I thought this was a simply a thread questioning what had happened to our Home Page.

Since we were told the reason for this, I don't think there has been any criticism, just comments about what our particular hardware and Operating systems are showing on screen, and I for one mentioned that I am hoping it is eventually reinstated when Trystan has the time and inclination to do so.

It is fine for people to praise Rootschat but I am not sure that it should be as a response to any implied criticism on this thread.

Just my thoughts on the matter.  :)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: SwissGill on Friday 24 April 15 13:37 BST (UK)
I read that Trystan was exloring ways to settle this so I assumed that he would find them and thus didn't complain about the "Home Page" as some others had done. It wasn't just a thread about "questioning". Please go back and read it from the beginning.

I see no reason for now complaining about those who felt they had reason to compliment Trystan and his team on the excellent running of this site.



Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: jaybelnz on Friday 24 April 15 23:49 BST (UK)
Exactly my point Swiss Gill!  And I stand by my original post! 

Jeanne
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: trystan on Wednesday 29 April 15 12:17 BST (UK)
Update:

The changes to the Home page are pretty much complete, and we've made the latest version "Live".

There may be a few little nips and tucks on it, but it should only affect mobile and tablet users. There are still a couple of quirks (like the search box dropping over the logo when using a mobile, and the menu looking a bit odd).

Thank you for bearing with us while the temporary mobile-friendly home page was in place. Thank you for your comments too. It's good to know that these things don't go unnoticed. It took about five days longer than we'd planned, but we were keen to get it as close to the original as we could.

The updated version is very similar to the original, but it now is compliant with the requirements that were set for us by the major search engine.

Trystan & Sarah
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Bee on Wednesday 29 April 15 12:21 BST (UK)
WOW, so much better, thank you

 :)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: majm on Wednesday 29 April 15 12:23 BST (UK)
Yes, fabulous.   Thanks.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 29 April 15 12:36 BST (UK)
Congratulations Trystan, Sarah and all for keeping rootschat available whilst you sorted everything out.

I've been noticing the various tweeks on the Home page these past few days but it's so different and so much better than it was a few hours ago when I visited it, you really must have had your noses to the grind stone.

All your hard work is appreciated.

Rena.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: jaybelnz on Wednesday 29 April 15 12:36 BST (UK)
It's looking great!  Thank you!

Jeanne 👍
.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: suey on Wednesday 29 April 15 12:44 BST (UK)

It's great!  I hardly ever used the home page before but I love the new look.  I used to come in via the Sussex board then to unread messages; straight in on the home page from now on  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 29 April 15 12:48 BST (UK)
oooh yes! Back to normal and looking good. ;D

Thank you Trystan.  ;D

 
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Joyful on Wednesday 29 April 15 13:17 BST (UK)
Fantastic! Thank you so much Trystan and Sarah, you've done a sterling job 8)

Joy
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: jess5athome on Wednesday 29 April 15 13:29 BST (UK)
Wow that's great, thanks a bunch Trystan and Sarah and everyone else concerned with the job, as always whatever you do on the site is brilliant.


Frank.
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Finley 1 on Wednesday 29 April 15 14:27 BST (UK)
Yea :) Home page looks much better today :)

xin
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Guy Etchells on Wednesday 29 April 15 18:18 BST (UK)
Displays perfectly on my Iphone and my Ipad.
It also displays very well on my Desktop with a 21 inch monitor, evn though it only fills two thirds of the screen width. All the text is perfectly legible and images keep their proportions.

You should be proud
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: gaffy on Wednesday 29 April 15 18:34 BST (UK)
Looking much better, congrats.  :) Just wondering what other "regular" Home Page users think.  Some have admitted on this thread that they don't normally use the Home Page, fair enough, I just feel that those that do so need to have an appropriate say.  So to "regular" Home Page users, do you not think it would be better to take the bold off the topic and put it on where the topic is located (the bit in brackets)?

My eye initially seeks out the area I'm interested in, be it "(World War One)" or "(Dublin)" or "(Family History Beginners Board)" or whatever.

Just asking...
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: candleflame on Wednesday 29 April 15 19:45 BST (UK)
Well done T and S and thank you for your hard work and for keeping us informed as to the reasons why!
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: roopat on Wednesday 29 April 15 21:10 BST (UK)
Looking better now.

Pat
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 29 April 15 21:16 BST (UK)
We take this wonderful free resource very much for granted without giving much thought to what goes on behind the scenes....so hats off to Trystan and Sarah...the unsung heroes,  for all their hard work...long may it continue  ;)
Carol
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: jan57 on Wednesday 29 April 15 21:17 BST (UK)
Looking much better, congrats.  :) Just wondering what other "regular" Home Page users think.  Some have admitted on this thread that they don't normally use the Home Page, fair enough, I just feel that those that do so need to have an appropriate say.  So to "regular" Home Page users, do you not think it would be better to take the bold off the topic and put it on where the topic is located (the bit in brackets)?

My eye initially seeks out the area I'm interested in, be it "(World War One)" or "(Dublin)" or "(Family History Beginners Board)" or whatever.

Just asking...

 I  log on to the Home  Page   first  ,  and  tend to look  at  what  the  posts  are about ,  rather than the sections they  are  in  ,  so the   posts  being  in  bold  is   fine  for  me 
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Erato on Wednesday 29 April 15 22:03 BST (UK)
When it comes to bold type face, how about bolding the forum on the unread posts page instead of the name of the poster who started the thread?  Does anyone really consider the OP's name more important than the subject matter?
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: jess5athome on Wednesday 29 April 15 22:34 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm a "Regular Home Page User" and think the new format is great, admittedly it seemed a bit strange to begin with but now it's great, I personally have no issues at all with it.

Regards
Frank. :)
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: sami on Wednesday 29 April 15 22:45 BST (UK)
 :) :) 2 thumbs up for the home page  :) :)

sami
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: joboy on Wednesday 29 April 15 23:46 BST (UK)
I am delighted with it all ....with my 24"screen the image is about 16" wide and the margins are about 2" either side.
I just could not ask for better.I am delighted with it all ....with my 24"screen the image is about 16" wide and the margins are about 2" either side.
I just could not ask for better ,
Well done Trystan and all. :) :)
Joe
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 30 April 15 00:18 BST (UK)
As a Home Page user I am happy with it as it is now - and all the sections which are in bold are fine I think.

If I were to be really picky, I would say that the last topic on the list is a little too close to the photos below it, but that so trifling as to be a non issue.

 ;D
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: majm on Thursday 30 April 15 01:00 BST (UK)
As a Home Page user I am happy with it as it is now - and all the sections which are in bold are fine I think.

If I were to be really picky, I would say that the last topic on the list is a little too close to the photos below it, but that so trifling as to be a non issue.

 ;D

Yep, exactly so, agree it is a non issue for me too.    :)


Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Alexander. on Friday 01 May 15 18:40 BST (UK)
May I just point out a little thing that has irked me for years - it did this even before the site was revamped a couple years ago. When you are on the Home page, the Forum tab remains highlighed, instead of Home (as shown in the snippet).

It should be an easy fix, moving the active class from the #button_home to #button_welcome link for the Home page.
Code: [Select]
<ul id="topnav">
<li id="button_welcome">
<a class="daddy" href="http://www.rootschat.com/">
<span class="last firstlevel">home</span>
</a>
</li>
<li id="button_home">
<a class="active daddy" href="http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php">
<span class="firstlevel">forum</span>
</a>
</li>

I do apologise for being so pedantic.

Alexander
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: smudwhisk on Wednesday 06 May 15 00:42 BST (UK)
Trystan, have changes now been made to the rest of the site please? Until this evening I could view the full site properly on both my old Android mobile and my new Win8.1 phone rather than using the mobile version which I don't particularly like. Now it works on neither properly apart from the homepage. I get a very large left section with names etc but the right hand section is only a few characters wide and impossible to read.

I've cleared cache etc but makes no difference. Really don't want to mow have to use the mobile version as the functionality is so limited :-X

Nicola
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: trystan on Wednesday 06 May 15 11:29 BST (UK)
Nicola,

Thank you for the feedback, and yes your'e quite right. Sorry about that. The left-hand side of the post was too wide when viewed on a mobile screen when viewed vertically..

Anyhow the fix is being worked on, and it could come in the next hour or the next few days depending on when the light bulb switches on :)

Trystan
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: smudwhisk on Wednesday 06 May 15 14:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Trystan, glad I wasn't going mad. ;D  Look forward to the fix since I prefer viewing the full site on the mobile.

Nicola
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 06 May 15 14:32 BST (UK)
May I just point out a little thing that has irked me for years - it did this even before the site was revamped a couple years ago. When you are on the Home page, the Forum tab remains highlighed, instead of Home (as shown in the snippet).

I do apologise for being so pedantic.

Alexander

I hope this "irk" bug isn't catching   :D   as I always land on the Home page  on arrival and never noticed the "Home" button wasn't highlighted.   Being an inquisitive female I let my mouse do some walking & see that the "Forum" button is lit when I click onto the "Help" page too although the rest of the buttons are highlighting correctly.

Never mind, we'll survive eh  :D
Title: Re: Change in RootsChat "Home" page - Work in Progress
Post by: gaffy on Saturday 27 June 15 12:24 BST (UK)

Looking much better, congrats.  :) Just wondering what other "regular" Home Page users think.  Some have admitted on this thread that they don't normally use the Home Page, fair enough, I just feel that those that do so need to have an appropriate say.  So to "regular" Home Page users, do you not think it would be better to take the bold off the topic and put it on where the topic is located (the bit in brackets)?

My eye initially seeks out the area I'm interested in, be it "(World War One)" or "(Dublin)" or "(Family History Beginners Board)" or whatever.

Just asking...


Thanks for taking the bold off the topic, this compromise has made the homepage easier for folk like me.  :)