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Title: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: JohnSpr on Monday 27 April 15 13:08 BST (UK)
I have been researching my family, who I have traced back to East Riding in Yorkshire.  I have found a reference to a crest the family held in the 1600s / 1700s, but want to find more information, but not quite sure where to go.  The reference is as follows

Blunt of Newton Garth bears gules, a fess, inter six marletts, argent 3,2,1 (spelling can be either Blount or Blunt)

This means very little to me.  I would be interested in finding out what the crest would look like, and any family history related to it.

I have approached the college of arms and have been quoted £900 for researching this crest - I am slightly reluctant to pay this much if the result is very likely to yield little or nothing

If anyone could help or advise of any other options I have, it would be really appreciated
Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 27 April 15 13:55 BST (UK)
Gules = red   so a red shield
a fess = a broad horizontal bar across the middle.
Martletts are heraldic birds, and are arranged in 3 rows, 3, 2 and 1
Argent = silver/white


I am a bit puzzled over the word "inter"?


Please remember:
The crest is that part over the shield! (usually with a helmet or crown?)
The coat-of-arms does not belong to a family; it was granted to an individual and only his descendants may use it.
Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 27 April 15 14:23 BST (UK)
Maybe like this?

Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: JohnSpr on Monday 27 April 15 14:41 BST (UK)
That is amazing, thank you so much.  That really does help.   It is amazing to see what it would look like
Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 27 April 15 14:47 BST (UK)
Actually, I think the fess would be plain, and there were 2 martlets, and 1 martlet at the bottom end?
Sort of in a triangle? Or 2 rows?

Couldn't get my software to do that for me, though!! ;D
Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: JohnSpr on Tuesday 28 April 15 10:51 BST (UK)
I've been doing some digging around on the internet this morning, and think I have perhaps found something similar to the crest.  These crests belong to the De Beauchamp family - however, the Blount family married into theirs in the 1300s.  Would this perhaps signify a link back to this line, or just conincidence.  Frustrating!!
Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: JohnSpr on Tuesday 28 April 15 10:55 BST (UK)
Additional info found;

Blount, Sir Thomas, of Warwickshire " bore, at the first Dunstable tournament 1308, gules,, a fess between six martlets argent

Inter appears to be latin for between, so very similar description
Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: billcat on Tuesday 28 April 15 16:49 BST (UK)
Burkes General Armory lists the most common Blount family as having arms of

"Barry nebulee of six or and sa"

perhaps like this:- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Sir_John_Blount,_KG.png (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Sir_John_Blount,_KG.png)

The listing for Blount of Mapledurham Oxford has these arms quarted with Ayala, Castile and Beauchamp.

Your six martlets arms seem to be a different Blount family? and have a crest of two swans necks in a crescent.

See https://archive.org/stream/generalarmoryofe00burk#page/92/mode/2up (https://archive.org/stream/generalarmoryofe00burk#page/92/mode/2up)
Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: JohnSpr on Tuesday 19 May 15 14:34 BST (UK)
To complicate things, I have found a description of another family crest linked to my line of descent from the same Blount family.  This one was taken from a tablet inside Kingston upon Hull church (tablet no longer exists). 

Elizabeth Blunt, wife of Francis Blunt, Alderman, eldest daughter of Thomas Bacon, of Wharram Grange, died 28 Man, 1687. Barry nebuly or and sable (Blunt) im' paling gules on a chief argent two mullets sable

Again, no idea what this would look like, but the "or and sable" doesnt sound right
Title: Re: Blunt / Blount family crest
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 19 May 15 14:51 BST (UK)
The first part (Barry nebuly or and sable (Blunt)) is exactly as billcat described!

Impaling is the practice of placing a second coat-of-arms (usually the wife's) side-by-side with the first.
"gules on a chief argent two mullets sable" is a red shield, with the top part (the chief) silver, on which are 2 black pierced stars.