RootsChat.Com

Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: cazza59 on Monday 27 April 15 14:18 BST (UK)

Title: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Monday 27 April 15 14:18 BST (UK)
I'm posting another one, because people are finding them quicker than I can scan!  ;D

Think this one will be elusive like WAI 12.  It's beautiful, but commonplace and most probably a Sainsbury's by now ::).   If nothing else, I hope people enjoy viewing the photo.

Take note of the chap and his two dogs.  His outfit is quite the country squire.  He looks like a chap in another photo, but the image is too small for a positive identification.

This photo is of the same era as the Clifton Browns, however it is larger in diameter and does not have a proof number so I can't say there is a connection.
 
I have enhanced the photo to highlight any features.

Caz
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Little Nell on Monday 27 April 15 22:06 BST (UK)
Unfortunately I can't identify this house, but it is mock Tudor, probably built in Edwardian times.

I've got myself lost in the maze of various places and connections from the other threads, sorry!

Nell
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Jool on Monday 27 April 15 22:28 BST (UK)
I've been searching but my eyes have gone wonky now looking at so many stripes  ;D

I noticed one distinguishing feature of the house, each timber design on the 3 gables is different.  There also appears to be another building/wing just visible to the right of the tree on the right side of the photo (near what to me looks like, but probably isn't, a scarecrow  ::))

I don't know how the timber beams would be fixed on a mock Tudor house, is it possible they could have been removed by a later owner and we could potentially be looking for a "plain" house?
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Tuesday 28 April 15 03:11 BST (UK)
I do think this one will end up in the too hard basket as it could have changed considerably in a hundred years and it isn't distinctive enough to focus on certain features for searching purposes.

I hope it still stands as it is certainly bigger than your two up, two down and it does look quite a grand home.

You never know, if it still exists someone might live next door or recognise it having passed by on their travels.

Here's hoping anyway.

Caz
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: still_looking on Tuesday 28 April 15 12:52 BST (UK)
Are my eyes playing tricks or is that a church steeple/tower visible through the tree branches above the gable end on the far right?

S_L
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: hepburn on Tuesday 28 April 15 12:55 BST (UK)
I looked and Googled,Googled and looked, for hours last night.....Nary a sausage  ???
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Yorkslass on Tuesday 28 April 15 13:22 BST (UK)
S_L,

You have extremely good eyesight - I'm sure you're right.

I had it in mind that I'd seen this house before and it was some kind of rectory  :-\

Yorkslass
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Trishanne on Tuesday 28 April 15 13:33 BST (UK)
S_L, there is definitely something in the trees, but it could be a chimney stack, either from another part of this house or another. It appears to be about the same height as the chimneys we can see.
What is that archway I have highlighted near the doorway?
The other part I have highlighted is a building that appears to be squashed next to the tree, is that part of this house?
Could this be two (or more) buildings. The two gable ends that are the same height belong to the main house, but does the third gable end  which is lower, belong to another building?
Are we looking at the front or the back?
It is quite a mystery!
Pat
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Tuesday 28 April 15 13:43 BST (UK)
"Are my eyes playing tricks or is that a church steeple/tower visible"

It's the 4th chimney stack.

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: BrazilianBombshell on Thursday 30 April 15 22:39 BST (UK)
Such a lovely house.  But what is the address?  Now it could be a pub somewhere.  I do hope it wasn't demolished.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DavidG02 on Thursday 30 April 15 22:48 BST (UK)
Could it be a cottage attached to a coachhouse to a bigger property. That may explain the brick addition ie stables.



Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: still_looking on Friday 01 May 15 08:05 BST (UK)
I don't have more time to check this out further right now but is it possible that this is what we're looking for but redeveloped with an extension. I can see the roof line and chimney from the original photo. Its in Chiddingstone.

https://outoftheloopdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/p5260117.jpg

S_L
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DavidG02 on Friday 01 May 15 08:21 BST (UK)
You have a great record in finding places s_l but I would be hesitant to say this is one.

Close. My argument would centre around the differences in chimneys and the middle wing. The original has 2 defined wings either side and I cant fit the 3rd one in.

I do recognise the argument in it being a redevelopment but not to that extent for me. Happy to be proved wrong  :)
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 01 May 15 08:22 BST (UK)
Sorry SL, I don't think it is the same building.  :-\ Roof line is similar in part, but windows, chimney, lower story, and half timbered patterning are all different.  :(
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: still_looking on Friday 01 May 15 08:32 BST (UK)
Specifically in regards to half timbering, the curved patterns in the original photo seem to be quite unusual. As i understand it the timbering in original tudor buildings came from the frame so curves would be unusual. So it might be possible that it was only decorative not structural?

S_L
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 01 May 15 09:00 BST (UK)
SL, I believe that the mystery house is a purpose built Victorian house mimicking medieval half timbered buildings. I believe the building you provided a link to has older origins but has been much altered over the years. It looks to be, or was at one time, an Inn perhaps. The part on the left where there is a entry to the rear of  the building, appears quite old.

Added. I see it is a PO.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DavidG02 on Friday 01 May 15 09:14 BST (UK)
Now S_L may have provided a rear view but I also cant match the shape of the road. Once again modern engineering etc but I cant believe a road would deviate too much from a curve to a straight. I feel the town would have grown along the road
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Seoras on Friday 01 May 15 09:27 BST (UK)
I agree with Mock Tudor, those timbers look far too uniform and are probably more decorative than structural. Maybe from around the time of the Arts and Crafts Movement ?  Even so, apparently they were expensive to build and so the owners were probably quite well off. It does seem to be in it's own quite extensive grounds but could now be in the middle of a housing estate.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 01 May 15 20:04 BST (UK)
The post office in Chiddingstone (lovely picture s_l) is 16th century and listed:

http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/details/default.aspx?id=357040

which means that it probably has looked similar for centuries rather than be missing the end to the left of the gables as you stand in front of it.

So still searching.......

Nell
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Saturday 09 May 15 05:31 BST (UK)
I'm so sorry, I don't know how I missed all these postings!  :-[

Some interesting observations about the house, but as I thought it's proving to be elusive.  Still a nice photo to be enjoyed and I'm certainly enjoying viewing all the beautiful homes that are dotted about the UK.  Just like stepping back in time, which is basically, what we are all about!  ;D

Thank you to everyone that has contributed on this thread, greatly appreciated!   :) :) :)

Caz
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: BrazilianBombshell on Saturday 09 May 15 21:04 BST (UK)
This lovely Tudor house is bugging me.  Every moment I have I search for it....so far no luck.  I have'visited' so many places and am still looking.  They really are such beautiful photos,Caz.  I'd love to find one.  Well done to all who have achieved it. 
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: John915 on Saturday 09 May 15 21:58 BST (UK)
Good evening,

I agree that it is not Chiddingstone, completely different. They are original timber frame buildings, quite a few of them in Chiddingstone.

The posted picture looks similar to a lot of the buildings on the Worth Estate nr Crawley. Also Worth Abbey which is on the estate. Not far removed from a couple of the other WAIs as well.

John915
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Monday 11 May 15 00:49 BST (UK)
This lovely Tudor house is bugging me.  Every moment I have I search for it....so far no luck.  I have'visited' so many places and am still looking.  They really are such beautiful photos,Caz.  I'd love to find one.  Well done to all who have achieved it.

I think this one is bugging quite a few people BB.  I also think finding WAI No 12, 19 and 20 will take a miracle, as they are more likely to have been destroyed over time and while they are beautiful, are not that distinctive to make identification easy.

Keep looking BB, you never know, you might stumble across one, fingers crossed anyway!  :) :)

Caz

Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Monday 11 May 15 01:09 BST (UK)
Good evening,

I agree that it is not Chiddingstone, completely different. They are original timber frame buildings, quite a few of them in Chiddingstone.

The posted picture looks similar to a lot of the buildings on the Worth Estate nr Crawley. Also Worth Abbey which is on the estate. Not far removed from a couple of the other WAIs as well.

John915

Hi John

I Googled Worth Estate, Crawley and a photo of Tilgate Park, one of the earlier identified WAIs came up as you mentioned above, so perhaps it is in the vicinity.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Jool on Friday 29 May 15 21:18 BST (UK)
Still looking for this one  ::)  ;D.  Just bringing it back up the list hoping a fresh pair of eyes may be able to track it down.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: BrazilianBombshell on Friday 29 May 15 22:37 BST (UK)
Jool, I've spent so many hours on this one!  If only I was this dedicated at work!  Thankfully I'm now retired so my time's my own.  I've travelled many a road on google map, searched so many websites, I'm fresh out of ideas.  I can only suggest it's been demolished, or well hidden on a country estate (?), or possibly bombed in one of the wars. Not given up though, still painfully daily searching......
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Jool on Friday 29 May 15 22:52 BST (UK)
I have tried all the more obvious search terms, mock Tudor, half timbered etc.  I wonder if the rear of the building doesn't have the black and white timbered effect, there may be a photo out there taken from the other side and we are not recognising it  ???

Keep at it BB, we'll get there in the end (fingers crossed)  ;D
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Sunday 31 May 15 04:47 BST (UK)
Still looking for this one  ::)  ;D.  Just bringing it back up the list hoping a fresh pair of eyes may be able to track it down.

I think this will drive people around the twist for a long time. Whoever does find this one (if anyone does) will have to have the honour of being King or Queen of the WAIs.

I'm amazed people are still slugging away with this one to be honest!  :o
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DavidG02 on Sunday 31 May 15 04:51 BST (UK)

I'm amazed people are still slugging away with this one to be honest!  :o
That's what we do.  ;D

1. Competitive
2. Curious
3. Committed
4. Crazy  8)
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Jool on Monday 08 June 15 21:30 BST (UK)
I'm still keeping eyes open for this one, and I thought for a few seconds I'd found it - but sadly not  :(

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/1530089/
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DavidG02 on Monday 08 June 15 22:20 BST (UK)
So close. Once again, 1 wing too many

I keep seeing Tudor Housing as I search for churches and every now and then I stop and think '' gee that's close'' but alas
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Jool on Monday 08 June 15 22:45 BST (UK)
It's beautiful inside, I could see myself there  ::)  I think the garage block is probably bigger than my house.  Oh well, maybe when I've saved £4,950,000 in my penny jar  ;D
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Tuesday 09 June 15 06:20 BST (UK)
I'm still keeping eyes open for this one, and I thought for a few seconds I'd found it - but sadly not  :(

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/1530089/

Wow Jool….I did a double take, I thought you did have it. 

Also Wow…5 million????  :o :o :o

It is beautiful though and I could see that as my country residence alongside my Scottish escape Balhomie!  In another life time maybe!  ;D
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 09 June 15 07:24 BST (UK)
Gosh that one is close!  Have you read the full brochure thingy?  The extensive gardens includes a series of lakes, one of which spans 2 acres - you could fit my house, my neighbour's house, and the next house along into one lake!
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Tuesday 09 June 15 08:02 BST (UK)
(Going slightly off track)
Looking at the price reminded me of this :-

Have a listen of the comment between 2 minutes and 3 minutes 10 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yrxzydwYU

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DavidG02 on Tuesday 09 June 15 09:58 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D

''that''ll cover this room''  :o :o
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: arthurk on Saturday 20 June 15 20:42 BST (UK)
As a latecomer to the party, I've only picked up occasional mentions of the Clifton Browns, and (I think) mention of them in Hitcham, Bucks; also Burnham Beeches - plus there have been a few in nearby Berkshire. This photo is giving me the impression of the Chilterns, Home Counties etc, and I wonder if that might be where to look...?

Arthur
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: deebel on Saturday 20 June 15 20:53 BST (UK)
Am thinking somewhere like the Bourneville Village. Perhaps originally a community building or a hospital or childrens home
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: jaywit on Saturday 20 June 15 21:20 BST (UK)
I think an Arts and Crafts Mock Tudor.

This one http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property-history/tudor-house/bell-lane/broxbourne/en10-7ha/31647374 was in a Daily Mail article comparing it to the style of Libertys in London.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: sugarbakers on Saturday 20 June 15 21:47 BST (UK)
I've just read all the posts to this one and realised that nobody has yet mentioned the good gentleman patiently waiting at the front corner of the building.
Caz, can we have a closer scan please, his clothing/uniform may help date the photo or connect it to others ... or someone might even recognise him  ;D
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Wednesday 24 June 15 13:22 BST (UK)
I've just read all the posts to this one and realised that nobody has yet mentioned the good gentleman patiently waiting at the front corner of the building.
Caz, can we have a closer scan please, his clothing/uniform may help date the photo or connect it to others ... or someone might even recognise him  ;D

Sorry Sugarbakers, I missed this request.  I'm scanning a few more in a minute, so I'll dig this one out and scan the chap.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DavidG02 on Wednesday 22 July 15 14:42 BST (UK)
Bumping this off page 3

I still check out the Tudor houses as I wander past number 12 and the Thatched cottage while heading to churches 39 and 158

Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Thursday 23 July 15 11:18 BST (UK)
Thanks for that dg.

I'd forgotten how nice this house is, I do hope it still exists although I don't think we can expect it to be in an area not built up.

Caz
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: John915 on Thursday 23 July 15 21:54 BST (UK)
Good evening,

I am of the belief that this is still rural with 1 or 2 others close by. I was looking at it again recently and suddenly thought "I've been in that house". I'm 90% sure it was one of my Xmas hamper delivery stops last year.

The problem is that I don't have a list of all my calls so am having to search around from memory. Not so good as it was a few years ago unfortunately.

John915
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DavidG02 on Thursday 23 July 15 23:10 BST (UK)
One of the things I have noticed is most seem to have been converted to hotels/pubs/B&Bs etc

Would that have been it John?
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 23 July 15 23:45 BST (UK)
I'm 90% sure it was one of my Xmas hamper delivery stops last year.

The problem is that I don't have a list of all my calls so am having to search around from memory. John915

That's intriguing John. Can you at least give some idea of the rough location so others can trawl around to try to help you find it? :)
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: John915 on Friday 24 July 15 06:32 BST (UK)
Good morning,     

Parts of WestKent, Sussex, Surrey, North Hampshire, Berkshires. Wouldn't be a pub, that would be one of our regular deliveries which I would remember.

John915
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Spidermonkey on Friday 24 July 15 11:38 BST (UK)
John - do you deliveer around the Webb Estate, Purley?  The houses below are not the right one, but give a bit of the flavour and style!

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/33270402#Rb3gvfGO71w231tH.97

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/36707774#s3GV0pOcMik76zVh.97
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: groom on Friday 24 July 15 11:50 BST (UK)
John - do you deliveer around the Webb Estate, Purley?  The houses below are not the right one, but give a bit of the flavour and style!

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/33270402#Rb3gvfGO71w231tH.97

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/36707774#s3GV0pOcMik76zVh.97

That's Croydon's most exclusive estate and home to multimillionaires, Status Quo rock star Francis Rossi lives/lived there. 

Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Spidermonkey on Friday 24 July 15 12:13 BST (UK)
John - do you deliveer around the Webb Estate, Purley?  The houses below are not the right one, but give a bit of the flavour and style!

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/33270402#Rb3gvfGO71w231tH.97

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/36707774#s3GV0pOcMik76zVh.97

That's Croydon's most exclusive estate and home to multimillionaires, Status Quo rock star Francis Rossi lives/lived there. 

Because it is unadopted, google maps doesn't extend into the estate so very few photos of houses appear when searching.

It might, of course, be in completely the wrong part of the world!  But when I saw the photo the first time, my initial though was "stockbroker belt".
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Friday 24 July 15 12:29 BST (UK)
John - do you deliveer around the Webb Estate, Purley?  The houses below are not the right one, but give a bit of the flavour and style!

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/33270402#Rb3gvfGO71w231tH.97

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/36707774#s3GV0pOcMik76zVh.97

That would freak me out…I used to live in Purley!!

Caz
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: lizdb on Friday 24 July 15 12:34 BST (UK)
At least we now know what the man is doing there out the front of his house - looking out for his hamper delivery!
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Friday 24 July 15 12:35 BST (UK)
At least we now know what the man is doing there out the front of his house - looking out for his hamper delivery!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: cazza59 on Friday 24 July 15 12:36 BST (UK)
I should add…I did not live in that estate though!

Caz
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Friday 24 July 15 12:55 BST (UK)
Webb Estate is on Google Earth.

Regards

Malky
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Spidermonkey on Friday 24 July 15 14:25 BST (UK)
Webb Estate is on Google Earth.

Regards

Malky

But it is not on street view; can you move from Google earth to a view of the frontages?
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 24 July 15 17:19 BST (UK)
There are many houses on Google Images for Webb estate Purley, I can't see this one though. Most of the houses seem to have big gardens/grounds to the front of them, do you think our house has? It is hard to tell.
Pat
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Spidermonkey on Friday 24 July 15 17:27 BST (UK)
This is sort of what I think is going on at the front of the house
http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/33270402#IFHtCchydjqVFhZO.97 (image 1 and 9 of 11)

Please note, I don't think this is the house in the original photo, or even that the house is definitely on the Webb Estate.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: John915 on Friday 24 July 15 18:45 BST (UK)
Good evening,

Have never delivered on the Webb Estate but have done some rds nearby in the past. Our boss has a large house on the periphery ie; on the A237.

The house I'm thinking off is more rural although close to habitation. The drive runs on up to 1 or 2 more houses and is on the border of the property. The grounds are to the left and rear of the house and the road is down to the left.

It's shooting night tonight so won't be in till later but will give it some thought.

John915
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Jool on Friday 24 July 15 22:34 BST (UK)
At least we now know what the man is doing there out the front of his house - looking out for his hamper delivery!

Liz, I've had the day from hell today, but that really made me laugh and cheered me up - thanks for that  ;D
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: BrazilianBombshell on Friday 24 July 15 23:01 BST (UK)
Perhaps it was a shooting lodge on a large estate, once upon a time....The man in plus fours (if not looking out for a hamper) may have been been watching out for poachers or such like...
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: arthurk on Sunday 09 August 15 20:24 BST (UK)
I'm still keeping eyes open for this one, and I thought for a few seconds I'd found it - but sadly not  :(

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/1530089/

I got quite excited when I found this while looking for WAI 12/12a, but it set me wondering. It's Castle Hill House, Rotherfield, and according to some old planning documents at Wealden Council (you can search on postcode TN6 3RR) it has changed quite a bit over the years. (I didn't look at all the documents and plans.) One of the things mentioned was a one-storey wing at the north end (the far end of what we see - if it's the same house) which was burned down some time last century. But unfortunately our house has 3 gables on the side to the right, whereas Castle Hill House has 4, and I got the impression that none of the changes had been quite as major as that.

Another thing about it is that the local railway station for Castle Hill House is Crowborough & Jarvis Brook, as in WAI 203. I even wondered if the chap in No. 19 might be one of the ones with bikes on the platform of No. 203, though I suspect not.

Anyway, just thinking out loud, really, and trying to spot connecitons, but it might inspire someone else. Or might there be a connection between No. 203 and No. 12/12a? (Probably better answer that on 12a rather than here.)

Arthur
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: djm297 on Thursday 13 August 15 08:56 BST (UK)
Having had several WAIs in The Lake District, I am now wondering whether this could be there? It looks to me as though there is water-a river/lake behind the property, with hills in the background.

Many Edwardian properties around Windermere are half-timbered, and in looking at those I see that the "eyebrow" windows on WAI 12 seem to feature in that part of the world!

No time to keep looking now, but just a thought !
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: DrDude45 on Saturday 12 October 19 21:08 BST (UK)
I've tuned this one up a bit. Hope it helps you find the place.
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: deebel on Thursday 30 July 20 20:29 BST (UK)
Can I chip in Port Sunlight?
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: Trishanne on Thursday 30 July 20 23:51 BST (UK)
There are certainly many Tudor style houses in Port Sunlight, the problem is in finding this one.  ::)
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: shanreagh on Friday 31 July 20 06:52 BST (UK)
I think Cazza was going to get us a close up of the man. He has dogs, first I thought sheep, but perhaps not! by him so close-up of those would be good too.  In one of the windows in the main part of the house there appears to be something white.  Perhaps it is something like a lampshade  or perhaps it says 'The name of this house is XXXX and it is in Co XXXXX.  With the sharpening up of the photo am I seeing a line of hills to the right of the photo? 

The man looks a bit like one of the Queen's relatives with the tallish build and beard, sort of naval as well. 
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: arthurk on Friday 31 July 20 15:53 BST (UK)
Just looking at this again, there are some variations of style which I hadn't noticed before.

The middle wing (the one with the front door) has its timbering down to almost ground level; the black timbers in the gable have a different pattern to the one next to it; the ground floor window is of a different style; and where it projects beyond the part nearer to us, the side-facing stonework looks rougher.

Would a mock Tudor house have been built to look as though it had grown over the centuries, or are we actually looking at a much older house which has been substantially extended?
Title: Re: Where Am I? No. 19 - Needle in a Haystack - Tudor House
Post by: shanreagh on Friday 31 July 20 22:57 BST (UK)
The setup to me also looks like an old house has grown 'organically' as they say.  Parts of the additions are very close so that they would be easy to join to the existing structure.  Then there are the buildings to the right. 

Perhaps a dower house as the/a drive seems  as if it passes in front.  But perhaps to get to farm buildings further along. 

Also looking at man again he looks like he has puttees perhaps or jodhpur type trousers.