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Title: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: goldy on Thursday 07 May 15 13:10 BST (UK)
I have purchased a document on local market (Manchester) it refers to Martin Tucker renting Town and Land to Richard Chaloner and Robert Crawford.in 1767
 if anyone would like more details please ask.
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: bucksboy on Saturday 07 January 17 15:03 GMT (UK)
Late reply, I know.  But is there an address or Townland/area on this document.

Steve. :)
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: goldy on Saturday 07 January 17 22:08 GMT (UK)
Spooky I was only thinking about this on Thursday. Been a while so not sure where I've put it. I will have a look for it this week.
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: familyroutes on Wednesday 11 January 17 18:14 GMT (UK)
Chaloner is a very unusual  name.There is a Richard Chaloner in Griffiths here...it's a later date but could be related?  http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=51&Submit.y=2&Submit=Submit&familyname=chaloner&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=
He  seems to have a lot of land ... I didn't look at the acreage. This is the only Chaloner in Griffiths.There's a William Crawford in Loughan, Kells too http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=crawford&firstname=&offset=40&countyname=MEATH&parishname=&unionname=&baronyname=&totalrows=62&PlaceID=0&wildcard=

Also a mention here https://books.google.ie/books?id=ADFbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA257&lpg=PA257&dq=richard+chaloner+kells&source=bl&ots=jNG9slvd-4&sig=2C6BQeGyt-sdLQdA55dkfXghM-Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjf_7Pw2rrRAhUrDsAKHe0XC8sQ6AEIIzAB#v=onepage&q=richard%20chaloner%20kells&f=false
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: familyroutes on Wednesday 11 January 17 18:29 GMT (UK)
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlmea2/Church/parish_of_moynalty.htm

Chanelor and Tucker

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Meath&townland=&parish=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=16340
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: familyroutes on Wednesday 11 January 17 18:31 GMT (UK)
https://challonerfamilyireland.wordpress.com/the-chaloners-of-meath-and-tipperary/
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 11 January 17 19:24 GMT (UK)
Richard Chaloner was the son of Claude William Cole-Hamilton.

His mother was Nicola Sophia Chaloner.

Upon her death he changed his name to Chaloner.
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: familyroutes on Wednesday 11 January 17 20:41 GMT (UK)
Leitrim Upper is in the Barony of Lower Kells Meath...so not County Leitrim.https://www.townlands.ie/meath/lower-kells/moynalty/leitrim-upper/
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: goldy on Sunday 14 May 17 21:59 BST (UK)
So sorry I've only just found this document again. The legal ease is hard for me to read as I'm Dyslexic. all I can make out at the moment is they rented Townland an land
at leitrim for a peppercorn rent for 1 year
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: goldy on Sunday 14 May 17 22:16 BST (UK)
ok first 2 lines and my head hurts but I think people are on the right track.



THIS INDENTURE made the fifteenth  day of june in the year of our Lord one thousand and seven hundred and sixty seven. BETWEEN Martin Tucker of Petersvile in County of meath Esquire of the one part and Richard chaloner of Kingsfort in the county of Meath Esq. and Robert Crawford of Kells in the County of Meath Esquire.
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: jimbo09 on Saturday 28 July 18 23:11 BST (UK)
This Richard Chaloner is not the son of Nichola Sophia Cole-Hamilton (nee Chaloner). He was born 1810, and took the name of Chaloner to inherit from his maternal grandfather.
Nichola Sophia’s father was Richard Chaloner of Kingsfort, co. Meath. He was married 1784, so if he is the one mentioned for 1767 he would have been young. His father and grandfather were not called Richard, so he is the most likely candidate.
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 28 July 18 23:19 BST (UK)
Yes....it is on the tree posted!

 https://challonerfamilyireland.wordpress.com/the-chaloners-of-meath-and-tipperary/
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: jimbo09 on Saturday 28 July 18 23:27 BST (UK)
I edited my previous post for clarity. Richard Cole-Hamilton, who took the name Chaloner, was not alive in 1767
Title: Re: land rent document 1767 Tucker, Crawford and Chaloner.
Post by: jimbo09 on Saturday 28 July 18 23:36 BST (UK)
And I see from the Chaloner tree on your link that the elder Richard Chaloner had an uncle also Richard, so he also becomes a candidate I guess. I’m not sure who had Kingsfort in that earlier generation