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Title: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: skippy on Tuesday 12 May 15 15:26 BST (UK)
Can I ask a big favour please for 3 census look ups.
1841, 1851 and 1861 for David Stewart should be with wife Rebecca.
Not sure about d.o.b.'s possibly 1815.
1851 and 1861 should be living in Stirling street , Glasgow. with daughter Ann.

Thank you
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: ev on Wednesday 13 May 15 14:44 BST (UK)
Hi ,

Have you tried http://www.freecen.org.uk/ for the 1841 / 1851 Census transcriptions ?
Is this the family ? -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMSG-QL2

1841 - David Stewart 45 , Rebeckah Stewart 35 , Ann Stewart 1 month , living Gallowgate Street Glasgow Lanarkshire.

1851 - The same family are , I think , at 332 Gallowgate Street but the wife is down as Rachael.



ev
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: skippy on Wednesday 13 May 15 15:56 BST (UK)
Thank you for replying ev,
it's a bit complicated but to cut a long story short i had been in touch with the mitchell library in glasgow to ask about poor relief records for Ann Stewart b c1840 living in Stirling Street with parents Alexander and Agnes nee Mitchell, they very kindly did a look up on the P.R and found her but with parents David and Rebecca nee Clarke, she applied in 1854 making her aged about 15.
I have her on the 1851 with surname Mitchell , her mothers maiden name and again in 1861 with surname Stewart.
Addresses are 2, stirling street and 4, Stirling street, she is with her grandmother Ann Mitchell and sister Margaret .
All very confusing, perhaps i will get in touch with the Mitchell again.
I have been looking for her for ages now and no death or marriage on Scotlandspeople that I can see.

thank you again
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 13 May 15 16:02 BST (UK)
Don't know Stirling Street, there was a Stirling Road in the Townhead with a pub called The Cairngorm. (got the t shirt).

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: ev on Wednesday 13 May 15 16:05 BST (UK)
Going by the 1851 Census transcriptions Ann Stewart and Ann Mitchell would appear to be 2 different persons.



ev
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: skippy on Wednesday 13 May 15 16:20 BST (UK)
Found her on the 1851 at 2, Stirling street on freecen.
As you say ev looks like 2 different Ann's.
Just got confused when the Mitchell said she had applied for poor relief whilst living in Stirling Street in 1854.
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: skippy on Wednesday 13 May 15 16:21 BST (UK)
Thank you Skoosh but it was defo Stirling Street.
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 13 May 15 21:43 BST (UK)
Stirling Street was a bit south of Stirling Road.

Stirling Street ran westwards from High Street and on a modern map would be roughly south of the eastern end of modern Ingram Street where it meets the High Street parallel to Ingram Street and Bell Street.

Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: RJ_Paton on Thursday 09 July 15 23:16 BST (UK)
Just been checking some old maps and there was a second Stirling Street which was in the Port Dundas area .... (did these people have no imagination regarding street names  ::) )
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: greeneyedgirl on Sunday 12 July 15 05:20 BST (UK)
Hi Skippy, this may be what you are looking for.

Marriage:

David Stewart
Rebecca Clark
married 21 November 1836
place:Glasgow


Births to David & Rebecca:

Walter Buchanan Stewart 7 July 1839 Glasgow
Ann Stewart  7 April 1841  Glasgow
George Stewart  9 October 1843
* mother's name is written as Rebecca Buchanan Clark

Hope this helps,Kim
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: greeneyedgirl on Sunday 12 July 15 07:46 BST (UK)
Hi again Skippy,

1841 census:
parish of Chalmers-Gallowgate St

David Stewart age 45  occ:cotton handloom weaver  says not born in county
Rebeckah Stewart  age 35  says was born in county(& all children listed were also born in county)
David Stewart  age 15
Margaret Stewart  age 13
Walter Stewart  age 2
Ann Stewart  1 month
several boarders inc Janet Stewart  age 15  occ:weaver

Death:
Mrs Rebecca Clark or Stewart
died 20 October 1852 in Glasgow
age 50
wife of David Stewart
residence:322 Gallowgate
died of ascetis

David Stewart
occ:bottle packer
widower
died 25 Sept 1858
at 71 Pr----- st.,Glasgow
age 69 yrs
father:Peter Stewart  handloom weaver (dec.)
mother:Janet Redpath(dec.)
cause:consumption-5 months
informant:Ann Stewart daughter present
buried in Sighthill cemetery,Glasgow
*this looks like him but would need to ID further-if it is than the following his birth.

Birth:
David Stewart
born 6 January 1790 to Peter Stewart & Janet Ridpath
place:Barony,Glasgow
listed as being child 8

Hope this may help,too. Kim


Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: skippy on Monday 13 July 15 11:56 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for all this information blemdookie but I don't think this is the family I am looking for.
There seems to have been 2 Ann Stewart's living in Stirling Street according to the people at the Mitchell library in Glasgow.
The Ann Stewart I am looking for is I think is the sister to my gr.grandmother Margaret Stewart b c. 1843 as they are both living with their grandmother Ann Mitchell in 1851 and 1861 in 2 and 4 Stirling Street.
On my great grandmother's marriage and death certificate it shows her parents as Alexander Stewart and Agnes nee Mitchell although  can't find either Ann's or Margaret's births anywhere.
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 13 July 15 15:07 BST (UK)
In the 1881 Census there's a John Stewart, bottle packer, age 55, b. 1826 Ireland, living at
11 Dunchattan Street, Dennistoun, Glasgow.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: skippy on Monday 13 July 15 16:07 BST (UK)
Thank you Skoosh,
really don't know if he is one of mine as can't find anything on Ann and Margaret's father Alexander Stewart.
I do have poor relief records for Ann's sister Margaret in 1891 which shows she was born in the Cowcaddens area but as yet still can't find a birth for her or Ann.
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: greeneyedgirl on Friday 17 July 15 08:00 BST (UK)
Hi, if Ann was born 1840ish she should probably be living with her parents in 1841 census but there is no sign of them. Something is wrong with the facts. Your saying Ann was living with grandmother and her sister Margaret. The 1851 census for 2 Stirling st says that Ann & Margaret were living with their grandmother also named Margaret not Ann. Somewhere along the line something is getting confused.Also if they were living with their grandma her name would be Stewart not Mitchell even tho she was born a Mitchell.Review your notes to see there is anything else you can tell us. When did she marry so we can look at cert,maybe a clue there. Kim
Title: Re: Help with Census look ups for David Stewart please.
Post by: skippy on Friday 17 July 15 12:01 BST (UK)
Hi Kim,
She is a complete mystery.
I cannot find anything on her apart from the 1851 and 1861 census.
I have all the records for her sister Margaret ( that's if they are sisters )from marriages to death showing her parents Agnes Mitchell and Alexander Stewart.
On the 1851 both girls have the grandmothers name of Mitchell and the 1861 shows their surname as Stewart.
Can't find a marriage or death for on Scotlandspeople, there are so many Ann Stewarts and Ann Mitchells to go through and the ones I have looked at are not her, it's costing me a small fortune .