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Title: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Alex_Wood on Sunday 05 June 05 17:33 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any ancestors who were Gloucester Pilots in the 19th Century?


Alex_Wood
Title: River Severn Pilots
Post by: alf on Friday 01 July 05 07:09 BST (UK)
Albert J PRICE, 29 Mar 1946, 76, 1870.
He worked 38 yrs, for the Gloster & Channel Pilots
Lillian Mary, daughter, 11 Dec 1904, 8 months
Ellen Elizabeth, wife, 15 Apr 1950, 76, 1874

William Thomas PRICE of Wanswell,
Gloster & Channel Pilot, 19 Jan 1876, 66, 1810
Henry PRICE, Gloster Pilot, 29 Apr 1886, 41, 1845
Hannah, wife of William, 15 feb 1906, 84, 1822

Thomas PRICE, 30 dec 1902, 67, 1835, 32 yrs a Gloster Pilot (Water)
Sarah, wife, 7 Sep 1924, 87, 1837

All buried at Berkeley Cemetery, Gloucestershire


Title: Re: River Severn Pilots
Post by: Geoff E on Saturday 02 July 05 00:03 BST (UK)
1881 census

Sarah PRICE   Wife (Head)   M   Female   44   Berkeley, Gloucester, England   Wife Of Channel Pilot     
 Frances Sarah PRICE   Daur   U   Female   14   Berkeley, Gloucester, England   Apprentice To Dressmaker     
 Frank PRICE   Son      Male   13   Berkeley, Gloucester, England   Scholar     
 Albert John PRICE   Son      Male   12   Berkeley, Gloucester, England   Scholar     
~~~~~~~~
Source Information:
  Dwelling   Brookend
  Census Place Berkeley, Gloucester, England
  Family History Library Film   1341607
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   2517 / 117
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: ian.h on Thursday 14 July 05 14:47 BST (UK)
hi alex
i have got 2 river pilots in my family,
william anstice b 1809 st george gloucester,
he is down as a river pilot in 1848 he went on to become
a dockmaster at newport,
his son in-law william borlase b 1827 penzance is down as a river pilot in 1849 he went on to be a mastermariner.

iv  found this site dont no if the info is any good to you.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JACKIE_SANDERS/pilots.htm
atb ian.h
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: janetd on Tuesday 02 August 05 15:36 BST (UK)
I am also connected to Anstice family, some of whom are described on census as channel pilots. A contact mentionned a list of Bristol Pilots compiled by John Rich which goes back to 1632. Maybe one to check in a local studies library. Janet D.
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: GRACELAND on Tuesday 02 August 05 18:07 BST (UK)
alf, Any relation To Price  or Shellam In Robinhood st Gloucester ??
 Henry Price & Rose Price  ???
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: alf on Friday 05 August 05 08:53 BST (UK)
Hi

I have no idea who they are connected to. I collate MIs for Genuki and have no idea of their back ground. I went to school with a couple of Price children from Sharpness may be the same connection. Berkeley Cemetery also covers the Sharpness region.

Sorry about that.
Alf
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: GRACELAND on Friday 05 August 05 10:31 BST (UK)
 :D THANKS ANYWAY , ALLWAYS WORTH ASKING !! :D
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Claire Fraser on Sunday 25 September 05 16:06 BST (UK)
Hi

Samuel Bush (1826-1898) of Framilode/Frampton, my ggg-grandfather, was a pilot on the Severn.  He was drowned on 2.09.1898 when the barget he was piloting - The Industry - hit the Severn Railway Bridge whilst loaded in forty tons of stone for the flood defences.  According to an article in the Gloucester Journal he had been a pilot for twenty-three years.  An inquest into his death was held at the True Heart Inn, Frampton.  It may be more of the family worked on the Severn - if so, I would love to hear.
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Alex_Wood on Friday 07 October 05 20:21 BST (UK)
I have collected a lot of data on licensed Gloucester pilots and Samuel Bush does not seem to have been one of them. He is possibly one of the unofficial pilots who were said to have been around at that time.

Alex
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Dimeryone on Saturday 26 August 06 19:40 BST (UK)
Hi all,

Have an ancestor Thomas Dimery born 1857 Berkeley Gls. who was a pilot on the river Severn at Sharpness Docks and on the Sharpness Gloucester Canal.

The family also married into a family of Lock keepers on the above canal.

Rich
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Barbara1 on Saturday 16 August 14 19:59 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any ancestors who were Gloucester Pilots in the 19th Century?


Alex_Wood
Yes I have several from the same family. Jeremiah Speck born Minsterworth in 1808.  Before taking on the roll of Pilot, he joined the Royal Marines, and was based in Plymouth, 55th Company. He served on Windsor Castle; Bustard; and Mersey. His son John Speck ( my Gt Grand Father)  was also a Pilot, and lived in Gloucester.   Jeremiah also had another son, also called Jeremiah. I think he was a canal pilot too, but not totally sure. He did though go to sea, and also worked at Gloucester Docks.   Hope this is of interest :)
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Victor Harvey on Tuesday 19 August 14 07:36 BST (UK)
Hi all,
If anyone is interested in Gloucester Registration Authority Canal Boat Registrations, 1879-1952, please post here.
Victor
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Liz in France on Tuesday 23 September 14 20:04 BST (UK)
Hi,

Not sure if Alex is still interested in knowing if members have Channel Pilots as ancestors but I have at least 8 Smith family members that followed this profession based in the Berkeley and Sharpness areas.  My step grandfather was also a first officer and then Captain on the Waverley and Brighton Belle paddle steamers that made trips to France as well as trips from Bristol to Weymouth, Brighton and other south coast places.

Elizabeth
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Jane Hurle on Monday 29 May 17 16:44 BST (UK)
My grandfather was a Bristol Channel pilot from around 1884. He retired in 1937 aged 75. Born in Saul 1862.Married twice.Second marriage was in 1897 to Constance Smith.Their youngest child of 9 children ( two died as babies ) was my mother Alice.Any further info would be appreciated.I have been told that his boat was the Veritas.
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Jane Hurle on Monday 29 May 17 16:47 BST (UK)
Sorry but in my haste I forgot to give the name of my grandfather
Ambrose Aldridge.His father Charles was also a pilot
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Liz in France on Tuesday 30 May 17 14:05 BST (UK)
Hi Jane,

We are researching the same family except my family connection is through Ambrose Aldridge's first marriage to Amanda Smith while yours is through his second wife Constance Smith.  I have not researched Constance and her line any further back to see if she is connected to my Smith family.  She probably is but further back in time.  Have you gone back through her family and are able to make the connection (if any)?

Elizabeth
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Liz in France on Tuesday 30 May 17 14:15 BST (UK)
Hi Jane,

Just checked my tree and I seem to have Constance Smith's father in twice as he does belong to the family I am researching.  This is a problem when a cousin marries another cousin when it is not realised they are cousins.  I shall merge the duplicate records and then it will all become clear.

Charles's parents were Daniel Smith and Elizabeth Jones (according to my reaserch) and he was one of eleven children.  They seemed to go in for large familes as I already have so many Smiths listed.
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Jane Hurle on Tuesday 30 May 17 16:15 BST (UK)
Hi
How exciting.My mother Alice was the youngest of Ambrose and Constance's children She once said that Amanda and Constance were cousins.So Charles Smith was the father of Constance? Was her mother called Harriet?I actually met Emmeline the second child of the marriage between Amanda and Ambrose.What else are you able to divulge?I cannot find where Constance and Ambrose were married but have found a memorial inscription re the death of Amanda the first wife.I wonder looking at her age of death and age of their third child if she died in childbirth?I have only just begun the ancestry thing.My mother died four years ago aged 101 still with vivid memories of her childhood in Gloucestershire.Amrose never spoke of his family to her but she remembered visiting Constance's mother and an Aunt Lottie.
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: CRAG on Saturday 17 February 18 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hello Jane and Liz
My name is Charles Ronald Aldridge Glass, my grandfather was Charles William Aldridge, who was the son of Ambrose and Amanda. His step brother was Giles [ son of Constance and Ambrose]
My grandfather, Charles William Aldridge married Sophia Cameron, lived in Scotland and had 3 daughters, Jean, Mabel and Amanda.
I am trying to trace the Aldridge family history and would appreciate any information you may have. I haven’t  got a lot but am willing to send you everything if you’d like.
I live since 1970 in the Netherlands.

Constance ALDRIDGE (geboren SMITH), geboren 1872
Constance ALDRIDGE (geboren SMITH) is geboren in 1872, in geboorteplaats, aan Charles SMITH en Harriet SMITH (geboren BAKER).
Charles is geboren in 1834, in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.
Harriet is geboren in 1839, in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.
Constance trouwde met Ambrose William ALDRIDGE op dag maand 1897, op 25 jarige leeftijd in trouwplaats.
Ambrose is geboren op 1 april 1862, in Saul, Gloucestershire, England.

sorry it's in dutch, if needed I'll translate it.
Ronnie.
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Jane Hurle on Saturday 17 February 18 15:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Ronnie
What a great surprise.My grandfather was Ambrose Aldridge and my grandmother his second wife Constance Smith.Ambrose had 3 children Charles, Emmeline and Amanda. My mother Alice was the youngest child of Ambrose and Constance and therefore a HALF sister to Charles, Emmeline and Amanda. I met Emmeline several times and have a photo of her. She married Reg Cook and had a daughter Ena.My mother spoke often of her half brother Charles telling us he went to Scotland. What information would you like? It is easier to use my e mail address
jhurle@globalnet.co.uk
Jane
Title: Re: Gloucester Pilots (River Severn)
Post by: Liz in France on Saturday 17 February 18 17:48 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Ronnie.

It seems that Jane and I both have information on Ambrose Aldridge and his family as well as the Smith family as they are intertwined,

There is too  much information to list it all out here so maybe it would be better to give you my e-mail address so the 3 of us can correspond and exchange info.  My e-mail address is elizabethcox.lesmartels@yahoo.co.uk

My connection is not a blood one like yours and Jane's as my connection is through my mother's step father Robert Edric Smith but I have done a great deal of research on the family and it would be nice to share it with you.
Robert was the son of Robert James Shadrack Smith, the brother of Amanda.

Elizabeth