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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: reeves_colin on Wednesday 10 June 15 06:01 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am looking for any additional information on the Winter Family who arrived in Canada from the UK in 1913
Solomon Winter b1878 + Louisa Winter (nee Newman) b1886
children Wilfred b1905, Louise b1905, Dennis b1908
Solomon was in Canadian Regiment WW1 number 408710
Solomon also had a brother
James George Winter b1886, he was single when he arrived in Canada.
James George married Bertha Lily Gurney in Canada in 1915
There was also another Brother
Fred b1884 married to Leonora Newman
Fred was in Canadian Regiment WW1 number 796176
Any help on these 3 Brothers would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Colin
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You will find details for Solomon Winter on www.findagrave.com
Also a tree on Ancestry with lots of photo's of Solomon and his wife and family
They have a death for James George Winter 1955
Frederick 1947
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This is the FIND A GRAVE entry that Rosie refers to
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=WIN&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GScntry=10&GSsr=1921&GRid=34393497&
Burial: Vittoria Baptist Cemetery Vittoria Haldimand-Norfolk Regional Municipality Ontario.
1921 Census Woodhouse (Township) Norfolk Ontario shows Solomon with his wife and children
Solomon Winter 42 Louisa Winter 36
Wifred Winter 16 Dennies Winter 12
John Winter 8 Louisa Winter 15
Kathleen Winter 11 Ellen Winter 6
Edith Winter 5
Sandra
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Louise Mary nee Winter Mabee daughter od Solomon and Louise.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mabie-maybee&id=I22465
Louise and James Arthur Maybee had a son Murray James Maybee entry on FIND A GRAVE - with a photograph
Born 23 March 1925 Ontario, Canada Passed away Sep. 14, 1993 Simcoe Norfolk Ontario, Canada.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=34392978
Sandra
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Murray James Maybee and Freda Emsley Maybee had a son Murray Allan Maybee - Passed away on Monday February 5, 2007. Mr Murray Maybee of Nichol Street Waterford in his 51st year. Son of the late Murray Sr. and Freda Maybee.
Obit
http://www.obitsforlife.com/obituary/204920/Mabee-Murray.php
Obit would give you the names of brother and other relations, perhaps using http://www.canada411.ca/ you would be able to contact if you wished.
Sandra
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Message board post (in 2007 and 2009) re John Solomon Winter - obit for wife wife Laura Belle Winter - who passed away at St. Joseph’s Hospital in Hamilton on Sunday March 21, 2004 at the age of 84. (Could John Solomon Winter have been the son of Frederick Winter 1883 ???)
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.winter/962.1/mb.ashx
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
John Solomon Winter - 1 December 1914 - 25 January 1973 -
Burial: Greenwood Cemetery Waterford Haldimand-Norfolk Regional Municipality Ontario.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=46693165
Sandra
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Canada Voters List - 1957 shows Bertha Winter - Widow - 740 Norfolk St N - Simcoe
Canada Voters List - 1968 Shows Bertha Winter - Widow - 237 Grove Street - Simcoe
Canada Voters List - shows Bertha Winter - Retired - 237 grove Street - Simcoe
Sandra
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James George Winter - could be George J Winter - 1886 - 1956
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/579866
Bertha 1898 - 1982
Sandra
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Norfolk Ontario 1921 - James George or George J Winter and Bertha
George Winter 36 Born England. Imm 1910. Bertha Winter 24 Born England. Imm 1914.
George Winter 3 Born Ont.
Sandra
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Dennis Winter and Louise Green
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1503929
Sandra
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Hi,
There is another marriage record for Fred May 1, 1920 Woodhouse Township, Norfolk, Ontario
Fred Winter age 36 b. England, farmer, widower, parents Frederick Winter and Mary
Durham marries Janet Cathlean Avena Londors, age 24, b. England, spinster, parents
Herbert William Londors and Elizabeth Watson. Witnesses were W.B. Tomlinson and
Marie Adele Tomlinson.
Cheers,
DB
Added: The name Londors has been transcribed as London, but it is typewritten as Londors.
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Hi,
I think this may be the death of Lenora,
December 5, 1919 Woodhouse Township, Norfolk
Winter, Scoffera ???, age 36, b. England, informant Fred Winter, Simcoe, parents
George Newman and Ellen Mills. Cause of death - influenza, place of burial Oakwood
Cemetery.
Cheers,
DB
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Hi,
1921 Census, Townsend Township, Norfolk, Ontario
Winter, Fred, age 36, b. England, imm. yr. 1913, farmer
Winter, Janett, age 27, b. England, imm. yr. 1906
Winter, Frederick, age 13, b. England, imm. yr. 1913
Winter, Mary, age 11, b. England, imm. yr. 1913
Winter, John, age 6, b. Ontario
Winter, Margaret, age 4, b. Ontario
Winter, Irene, age 9/12, b. Ontario
Selley, William, age 42, b. England, imm. yr. 1921, labourer
Cheers,
DB
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Thank you everybody for all the wonderful information so far.
What I have recently discovered is the original 3 brothers, had an older sister Mary Jane, born in England in 1875.
Mary Jane Surname remained as Durham as she was born a year before Frederick Winter and Mary Ann Durham married in England.
Mary Jane Durham later married, and is my Great Grandmother,
thank you all again
Colin
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You're very welcome. ;)
Following on from excellent info by DB - Frederick Winter born 21 December 1907 Gloucestershire passed away aged 29 years - 2 October 1937 - Norfolk, Ontario, Canada. Parents transcribed as Fred Winter and Mother: Senola Newman. Labourer on farm. Single. Informant was his uncle A J Winter. Vittoria. Burial Oakwod Cemetery.
Sandra
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Just returning to my Winter family in Canada
I have so far not been able to identify how they got to Canada from England
From their 1921 Canada Census lists I know that they arrived in Canada in the following years.
James George Winter (unmarried)arr 1910
Fred ( wife Leonora) and Solomon Winter (wife Louisa) arr 1913
Can anyone identify ship passenger lists that includes these families.
I am assuming that Fred and Solomon maybe went over to Canada together, and James as a single man was the pioneer
thanks in advance
Colin
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Canadian Passenger List - Fred Winter - born 1885 and aged 28 years - London to Quebec on the Corinthian arriving 20 May 1913 - also travelling Lenora aged 29 years, Frederick 5 and Mary E 3.
Destination Simcoe Ontario.
Sandra
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Sandra
Brilliant, that accounts for 1 of the brothers and his family...
Thank you so much
Colin
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At the bottom of the previous page of the passenger list showing Fred also shows Sol John (surname faded and non existant) aged 35 years, Louisa aged 27 years, Wilfred 8 years, Louisa 6 years, Dennis 4 years, Kathleen and John.
All going to Simcoe Ontario.
Listed on ancestry on the Corinthian - 20 May 1913 - under Christian names - Sol John, Louisa, Wilfred R Dennis, Kathleen, and John
Sandra
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Sandra
Thank you so much, this is my second Winter family...
Best wishes
Colin
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Hello again
I have since discovered another Solomon Winter b 1848 England, who may well have traveled to Canada.
He appears to have arrived about 1870
I have not found him on any passenger list yet (he was probably single at the time of the arrival).
It may be the case that he married in CANADA -Julia 1874 Ontario, and possibly again to Emma before 1891
I believe Solomon died in 1917 as there is a reference to his grave
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=161150613&ref=acom
Any further help with this part of my Winter family would be greatly apprecited
thank you in advance
Colin
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I believe Solomon died in 1917 as there is a reference to his grave
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=161150613&ref=acom
Ontario Deaths http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jjj/
Solomon was age 68 when he died, married, father's name John informant was George Winter of Simcoe (edited) removed word brother - possible relative??
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1881 Norfolk Ontario
Solomon Winters 32
Emma Winters 24
Mary Alice Winters 6 months.
1891 Census Norfolk Ontario
Soloman Winters 43 Born England. Farmer.
Emma Winters 34 Born Ontario.
Alice Winters 10 Born Ontario.
William Winters 11 Born England. Nephew.
Sandra
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1901 Norfolk Ontario
Solomon Winters 53
Emma Winters 44
Alice Winters 20
Silva Henderson 6 boirn 7 October 1894 Ontario. Niece.
William Winters 21 born 18 Dec 1879 England. Nephew. Labourer.
Sandra
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1911 Census W.Norfolk Street Norfolk Ontario
Solomon Winter 63 and Emma Winter 53
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE - Buried in the same cemetery was Emma Reid Winters - 1857 - 1931 (wife of Soloman)
Burial: Lynnville Community Cemetery Lynnville Norfolk County Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=winters&GSiman=1&GScid=2200598&GRid=161150331&
Sandra
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Also daughter Mary Alice Winters - 1880 - 1905 - FIND A GRAVE
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=winters&GSiman=1&GScid=2200598&GRid=161150358&
Sandra
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Thank you so much..
I really appreciate this. I will now try to absorb this in to my research..
Solomon's death was 'informed' by his brother George.
Do we know what happened to George?
thank you again
Colin
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Is that James George Winter ?
Sandra
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Norfolk Ontario 1910
George Winter 36 Born England. Immigrated 1910
Bertha Winter 24
George Winter 3
Sandra
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Anc tree says James George Winters - January 1886 - Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England
passed away 22 July 1956 - Simcoe, Norfolk County.
Sandra
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Hi,
On Solomon's death record it doesn't list the relationship of the informant.
George or James George's parents are Frederick Winter and Mary Durham according to
a marriage record in Norfolk, Ontario Nov. 30, 1915 to Bertha Lily Gurney.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-T53M-89?mode=g&i=413&cc=1784216
Cheers,
DB
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Anc tree says James George Winters - January 1886 - Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England
passed away 22 July 1956 - Simcoe, Norfolk County.
This looks like James' baptism so not the brother of Solomon Winter born 1848 Kempsford
added - James' father Frederick maybe Solomon's brother
James George Winter
Baptism Date: 7 Mar 1886 Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Frederick Winter
Mother: Mary
Register Type: Parish Registers
GRO indexes now give the mother's maiden name
James George WINTER mmn DURHAM
1886 M Quarter in CIRENCESTER Volume 06A Page 387
Frederick Winter Age: 24 (1852) father John
Marriage Date: 4 Nov 1876 Latton, Wiltshire, England
Spouse: Mary Ann Durham
1891 c Frederick & family https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W1J2-76Z
What was the mother's maiden name of your Solomon Winter born c1848?
There's this baptism record
Solomon Winter
Baptism 20 Feb 1848 Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England
Father John Winter
Mother: Mary
Register Type: Parish Registers
Solomon WINTER mmn WOOD
1848 M Quarter in CIRENCESTER UNION Volume 11 Page 247
Solomon's sister & brother
Rhoda Winter
Baptism 18 Dec 1839 Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England
Father John Winter
Mother: Mary
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Rhoda WINTER mmn WOOD
1839 D Quarter in CIRENCESTER UNION Volume 11 Page 233
Frederick Winter
Baptism 22 Feb 1852 Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England
Father: John Winter
Mother: Mary
Register Type: Parish Registers
Frederick WINTER mmn WOOD
1852 M Quarter in CIRENCESTER Volume 06A Page 324
1837 Oct-Nov-Dec Cricklade Wiltshire Volume: 8 Page: 491
Records on Page:
Name
John Winter
Mary Woods
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On Solomon's death record it doesn't list the relationship of the informant.
You are correct dbree about the informant - I did mean to write 'a possible brother/relative ::)
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I have since discovered another Solomon Winter b 1848 England, who may well have traveled to Canada.
He appears to have arrived about 1870
I have not found him on any passenger list yet (he was probably single at the time of the arrival).
It may be the case that he married in CANADA -Julia 1874 Ontario, and possibly again to Emma before 1891
You mentioned Solomon may have married a Julia
Sorry can’t view the original for further details
Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934
Julia Cullimore
Age 21
Birth Year abt 1853
Birth Place Canada
Marriage Date 14 Feb 1874
Marriage Place Norfolk, Ontario, Canada
Father George Cullimore
Mother Lucy Cullimore
Spouse Solomon Winters
Household Members Name Age
Julia Cullimore
Lucy Cullimore
George Cullimore
Solomon Winters
Mary Winters
John Winters
NAME: Solomon Winters
SPOUSE: Julia Cullimore
BIRTH: year - location
MARRIAGE: date - Norfolk, Ontario, Canada
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Perhaps Colin is the owner of the tree since it is the same name ..............
Sandra
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Yes
this is my tree..
Where possible I have at least one document to prove the tree integrity, baptisms and Marriage records to confirm dates, places and parentage.
I know about Solomon John b 1878 and have learnt a lot about him in England and Canada.
Also at least 2 of his brothers appear to have moved to Canada (James George b 1886 and Fred b 1884)
My new enquiry is more about Solomon b 1848
I am trying to confirm if he is the Solomon Winter who arrived in Canada in 1870 and died in 1917.
Sorry about the confusion
Thank you all so much for your help..
Colin