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Title: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: jennyrob on Thursday 11 June 15 11:28 BST (UK)
Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon has changed through the years or wrongly translated He was born in St marys area of Reading in 1865 with father Frank and mother Eva

I cant find a marriage for these two We know Frank was a journey man tailor
 Frank we believe was born in St Pancras in 1833 and lived there later on with two other  wives

 Was wondering whether any one had access to Parish records which might show surname of Eva Thanks
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: groom on Thursday 11 June 15 11:42 BST (UK)
You might have to buy Frank junior's birth certificate to show his mother's maiden name

Frank Howard Alden
1865    Apr-May-Jun
Reading   Berkshire
Volume:   2C
Page:   342
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 11 June 15 11:46 BST (UK)
Not the same mother (where did the name Eva come from?) but there is a tree with his parents as

Frank Richard Howard Alden
Louisa Grace Williams

Who did your Frank marry? 

Tree has his wife as Elizabeth Sophia Hadlow

Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: groom on Thursday 11 June 15 11:50 BST (UK)
Not the same mother (where did the name Eva come from?) but there is a tree with his parents as



Eva is on the baptism transcription. There doesn't appear to be a death of an Eva though.
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: jennyrob on Thursday 11 June 15 12:08 BST (UK)
Eva is a possibily, as that is the only record I could find in Reading was Frank with mother Eva
 and frank was a tailor journeyman
Also he named two of his children Eva in future marriages
 He married Louisa  in 1853 and she can be seen with daughter Eva Alma abt1859 on   1871census
 She shows up in Noel Street St James Westminster
Frank would only have been 5 then and was not present
 Louisa left a will when she died in 1889 leaving all money to Ada Alma mis spelling of daughters name i thought
Its all very confusing because of all the different spellings of name

Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: Galium on Thursday 11 June 15 12:26 BST (UK)
Possibly of interest is this family in 1871:

24, Bennett Street, Cold Bath, Greenwich
Walter Shepherd head M  26  Bricklayer
Eva Shepherd      wife  M  29                   Windsor, Berks
Frank Shepherd   son        6                    Reading, Berks
Florence Shepherd daur      4                   Greenwich
Emily Shepherd      daur     11m                Greenwich

I can't see a marriage of a Walter Shepherd (or variant) and an Eva.
There is a baptism in Greenwich of Emily Shepherd d/o Walter and Eva, but I can't see one for Florence.
Frank Aldon aged 16  born in Reading is lodging in Greenwich in 1881
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: groom on Thursday 11 June 15 12:27 BST (UK)
So if Frank senior married Louisa in 1853 and she didn't die until 1889, she was either Frank junior's mother as he was born in 1865, or the marriage had split up and Frank junior was the illegitimate son of Frank and Eva. That might explain why there is no marriage.

Who is Frank senior with in 1871?
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: jennyrob on Thursday 11 June 15 13:19 BST (UK)
I cant find either Frank in 1871 I just found Frank Shephard

 Does it say on batism record for Emily what Evas name was before Marriage
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: Galium on Thursday 11 June 15 13:53 BST (UK)
Unfortunately it doesn't - I would have said  :) .  It's quite unusual to get the mother's maiden name in England and Wales baptism records, especially after baptism registers were standardised in 1813.

I can't find Eva either before or after 1871.  Eva is not a particularly  popular name in early Victorian England, and there are no births registered in Windsor district with the name Eva at least up to 1845.
I'm wondering whether it was actually the name she started  with.
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 11 June 15 13:59 BST (UK)
Does Louisa state she is married in 1871?  Yes she does.

Don't suppose Eva is Louisa all along, I haven't seen the baptism record - is it online? 

If the name was scrawled it just might be misconstrued  :-\
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 11 June 15 14:16 BST (UK)
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Louisa left a will when she died in 1889 leaving all money to Ada Alma mis spelling of daughters name i thought

Her birth registration is actually under Ada Alma Alden not Eva
Mar 1860 St James
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: groom on Thursday 11 June 15 18:00 BST (UK)
I think you are going to have to get Frank's birth certificate.
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: jennyrob on Thursday 11 June 15 20:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Seems I might never know
Title: Re: Looking for mother of Frank Howard Alden/Elden/ Eldon
Post by: groom on Thursday 11 June 15 21:08 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Seems I might never know

Why not, her maiden name will on the certificate? I'm afraid that sometimes buying the certificate is the only way forward and is worth it if it is a direst line.