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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: Jmama on Sunday 21 June 15 17:05 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I have a death certificate for my great grandfather David Lyness (Lynas) who died in the Lurgan Workhouse at 71 years old from Senile Dementia. The record shows he was married at the time but I cannot find a 1901 census for him anywhere. His death was in May 1907. Was there a census done for the inmates of the workhouse if they were patients there. This leaves me to find his wife Elizabeth in any number of 1901 censuses but not sure which one she is. Their children would long be married with families of their own.
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Inmates of Workhouses are recorded by initials, knowing his county of origin and age it might still be possible to find him.
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http://www.workhouses.org.uk/records/census.shtml
"The 1901 and 1911 censuses for Ireland are available online and free at the Irish National Archives. The entries for workhouse inmates, however, are recorded only as initials. To find workhouse officers, try using the census website's More Search Options facility and put Workhouse Master (or even just Workhouse) in the Occupation box."
I just tried this option and could not seem to find David Lynas. I tried the search terms, inmate, workhouse.
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The last address I had for the family was 4 Mary Street, Portadown. They were there for a number of years prior.
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They had used the surname spelled Lyness on his death certificate from there. Would that help?
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Think this is it
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000400043/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/William_Street/1026855/
Don't think he's there though.
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This could be Elizabeth aged 67, a housekeeper, married at 11 Mary Street, Portadown, Armagh with a grand child Elizabeth Kidd aged 2 years.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Portadown_Urban/Mary_Street/1030009/
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Thank you all for your kind response and assistance. The 1901 census for Elizabeth is correct and is what I was leaning towards. I don't know where else to look for David Lyness/Lynas/Lyines. I will make note of the Lurgan Workhouse address for reference.
Kindly ,Jmama
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Think this is it
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000400043/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/William_Street/1026855/
Don't think he's there though.
Couldn't find it in the 1911 census in William Street
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Didn't notice at the time but if you look at the image from 1901 in the top right the Street address is John St.
Why it ended up included with William St I've no idea.
In 1911 it's listed John St.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/John_Street__part_/296099/
If that's the same place.
1901 the top of the image says Workhouse (Lunatics and Idiots Excepted)
1911 says Return of Lunatics and Idiots
Confusing but too late now to study it anymore.
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Didn't notice at the time but if you look at the image from 1901 in the top right the Street address is John St.
Why it ended up included with William St I've no idea.
In 1911 it's listed John St.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/John_Street__part_/296099/
If that's the same place.
1901 the top of the image says Workhouse (Lunatics and Idiots Excepted)
1911 says Return of Lunatics and Idiots
Confusing but too late now to study it anymore.
Right - bit tricky! Thanks