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Title: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: RuleFamilyQld on Friday 26 June 15 09:51 BST (UK)
Hi we are trying to trace my husbands ancestors.

This is all we know so far and would love any additional information, especially regarding Henry's parents, grandparents etc in scotland.

Henry "Harry" Rule b. Circa 1916 in Falkirk, scotland
Immigrated to Australia: unsure of when because there is no record of him leaving scotland and no record of him arriving.
Lived in Morwell, Victoria, Australia around 1954 (according to census records) where he married Lillian Hutchinson around the same time.
He worked as a stonemason/bricklayer in the small town where he built many of the towns homes and buildings.
He played lawn bowls, and we have found a few interesting articles from the local newspaper circa 1952 where he had a few shenanigans with some friends.
He and Lillian had 4 children. *, *, Robert, *. ( not 100% sure on the order of birth)
Robert passed away in 1984 and Lillian passed away in 1994: both are buried next to each other in Hazelwood cemetery.
Harry passed away in Morwell in 2000, we think aged about 84 ( thus his approximate date of birth)

We think he would have been about 36 by the time he immigrated to Australia

Due to estranged family members it is quite hard for us to get information about the family so any help anyone can offer would be lovely.
We have been told that the name Rule comes from the Turnbull clan in the Roxburgshire area of Scotland.
We would like to be able to link Harry back to his family in Scotland. If anyone has any information regarding a sibling of someone in their family tree born around this time in this area who left for Australia, we would love to hear from you.
We will also be sharing on the australia page. Thank you

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Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland c.1916 immigrated to Australia c1950
Post by: RuleFamilyQld on Friday 26 June 15 11:05 BST (UK)
Update: with the help of some amazing people on the Australia post we have more information that might help!

Date of birth would have been around 1922-1923

Departed Liverpool on the ship "Cheshire" on 9 August 1949
Arrived melbourne on 12 September 1949

His last known address in scotland was:
49 park avenue Lauriston Falkirk

He was 27 years old and listed as a bricklayer.

Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 26 June 15 12:47 BST (UK)
Hi
His birth is on Scotlandspeople.
There is only one Henry Rule 1922 Falkirk.
You can purchase the certificate online and it should give you his parents and you can work back from there.
Alternatively his Australian death certificate should give his parents names and there are websites where you can look them up on the censuses for free.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 26 June 15 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi
His birth is on Scotlandspeople.
There is only one Henry Rule 1922 Falkirk.
You can purchase the certificate online and it should give you his parents and you can work back from there.
Alternatively his Australian death certificate should give his parents names and there are websites where you can look them up on the censuses for free.

Ciderdrinker

Was Just going to suggest that www.scotlandspeople.gov which as Ciderdrinker has said it will give you his parent's names and should have their date of marriage ...which you can also apply for which should take you back a few years  :) :)
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: RuleFamilyQld on Friday 26 June 15 12:55 BST (UK)
Thank you that's a great start, we are going to try to order his death certificate next week so hopefully his parents are listed.
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 26 June 15 12:58 BST (UK)
Quite a few families with the surname Rule in Falkirk in the 1901 census.. once you have the parent's names you can post and we will be able to help with the census forms  :)
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: RuleFamilyQld on Friday 26 June 15 13:10 BST (UK)
Quite a few families with the surname Rule in Falkirk in the 1901 census.. once you have the parent's names you can post and we will be able to help with the census forms  :)
Thank you so much. I really appreciate the help, I've been going in circles. I'm sure I don't need to tell you I'm a beginner! Haha
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: ev on Friday 26 June 15 13:23 BST (UK)
Just to add , the 1922 birth certificate will not be available to view online , it would need to be ordered.
The latest birth year viewable online at the moment is 1914.


ev
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: nanville on Saturday 27 June 15 05:07 BST (UK)
There is a Rule family,living in the Polmont area of Falkirk,I'm sure that Ian Rule has/had a plumbing buisiness in Falkirk, I lived in the polmont area up to 1998.
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: RuleFamilyQld on Saturday 27 June 15 08:21 BST (UK)
There is a Rule family,living in the Polmont area of Falkirk,I'm sure that Ian Rule has/had a plumbing buisiness in Falkirk, I lived in the polmont area up to 1998.
That's great , once we have the death certificate hopefully it will be easier to make connections in Scotland. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: RuleFamilyQld on Friday 17 July 15 03:27 BST (UK)
Updated information:
So we have received his death certificate today and have some more info to add. If anyone has any information relating to his parents or sisters that would be great-

Father- James Rule occupation: labourer
Mother- Ellen McIntosh : dressmaker

He married Lilian Hutchinson in 1950 in Morwell, Victoria Australia.

I have also been informed by one of the paid for services that they have access to information about his two sister. I do not know their names but it would be great if we could find out as they may still be living.

Thank you for everyone's help. :)
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 17 July 15 10:03 BST (UK)
Hello
The parents married at St Lukes Weste Lancashire 27.4.1919
James Rule 34 moulder 18 Darwin st s of Harry Rule moulder
Ellen McIntosh 30 same address d of Alexander blacksmith

wit Ivy Gertrude Wood and William Thomas Tate

1901 census Falkirk North Back Row
Henry Rule 50 iron moulder Falkirk
Elizabeth 45 Falkirk(nee Greenway)
Thomas 18 iron moulder Falkirk
Mary 21 Falkirk
Elizabeth 18
James 16 iron moulder
Andrew 12
Janet 9
Annie 6
Henry 5
Alexander 2
Annie Tominy 4 granddaughter

I haven't got any credits for Scotspeople so can't look up Henry's sisters.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Henry "harry" rule born Falkirk, Scotland 1922-23 immigrated to Australia 1949
Post by: RuleFamilyQld on Friday 17 July 15 23:41 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=724015.0

This is the other Thread about Henry Rule's family. we have made some great discoveries. :)