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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Herefordshire => Topic started by: magnolia fan on Saturday 27 June 15 18:16 BST (UK)
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Hi all I'm trying to locate pictures and information regarding a property in Tyberton Hereford, the property in question is called The Forge. So far my research has bought up a few blacksmiths living in tyberton but not saying where they lived exactly.
The people I have at the moment are;
Wm Wilcox (though I believe this to be Thomas Wilcox) c.1858
Sarah Lloyd c.1879
Mrs Ann Lloyd c.1895
Thomas Lloyd from then on.
The Hereford archives is at the moment closed and so I have had to use all the resources at the library and the internet as best I can, I know this isn't a typical ancestry type topic or question but any and all help would be greatly appreciated as I would love to find information on this property and the history of the people that lived there as it is quite personal to me as Tyberton is.
many thanks you guys
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Have you tried looking on the Herefordshire Family History Site?
http://www.herefordshirefhs.org.uk/
If you can't find anything, there might be someone on that Site who could help. Worth a try anyway.
Romilly.
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
All censuses from 1841 - 1911 can be searched by address on www.findmypast.com and www.thegenealogist.com both of which are subscription sites
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On the 1888 ordnance survey map there is a smithy shown in tyberton, it seems to be still there on the modern map.
Assuming we mean the tyberton near Madley I have driven past it many times but never noticed a house there, I feel it may be hidden behind a hedge.
You should be able to find it on street view, it is on a very tight bend just after tyberton going towards Madley on the B 4352
Mike
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Hopefully this should give you a good view of the house http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fk5/
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Hi guys
Thanks for your comments all really helpful. Mike I'm trying to find this 1888 ordance survey map but haven't any luck, I don't suppose you could give me a nudge in the right direction?
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Try this map. Tyberton and the smithy are in the south west corner
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101569761
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kay99 has given the link to the map I used and spider monkey's link is superb, I must be blind ;D ;D
Mike
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Thank you ever so much guys. My parents have been living at the forge for the last 18 years and I thought it would be a great gift to research the house and the previous occupants as well as the history of Tyberton as a whole. Much appreciated guys
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Hi,
My Great Grandmother Eliza Kearn was born at Tyberton, daughter of Robert Kearn who was the Gardener at Tyberton Court. 1881 Census shows Robert Kearn and some of his family living at the Smith's Shop, Tyberton. He died in 1886 and was buried at the Parish Church, St. Marys at Tyberton, the grave still quite legibile.
Am wondering if this is the same property you mention, the Smith's Shop.
Jan
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Hi jan,
Thanks for that info. I was told once that the house was once a shop so this as well as the map that kay99 posted that says the forge was smithys this sounds totally plausible. Do you have any further info on Robert of Eliza? This would be much appreciated. Thank you for the names as this is a new lead now and if I find any info on them whilst researching the propert I'll be sure to share if you don't not already know of it.
Many thanks
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Hi Magnolia fan,
I have quite an amount of information on Robert Kearn, I will get back to you a little later on, need to dig out my files. We were over from Australia a few years ago and found the areas where the family lived. Such a beautiful spot along the River Wye. Be back soon.
Jan
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Hi Magnolia Fan
Now, Robert Kearn was born 11.11.1821 and was baptised at St. Marys Parish Church, Tyberton, he was the son of George b. 1796 & Ann Kearn (Karn) who had married at St. Marys on the 19.8.1813.
Robert Kearn married Mary Pugh at the same Church on the 18.7.1842 they had several children, including my Great Grandmother Eliza Kearn b. 20.11.1845. Robert Kearn was Gardener at Tyberton Court which had been built in 1728, included in the property was the Manor House, three farms with cottages belonging to the Lord of the Manor, Blacksmiths, Carpenters, Woodmen, and servants, all drawn from the village of Tyberton - the village had 157 people and was a self sufficient community.
Robert's wife Mary died in 1853 and he remarried in 1855 to Caroline Meek, they had more children, lived at various places around the area, and by 1886 census aged 66 years, he was living at the Smith's Shop. Robert Kearn died in 1886 and was buried at St. Mary's Church Tyberton, where his grave still stands.
G Grandmother Eliza Kearn worked as a Servant at the Church House at Madley before she moved to Hereford and her marriage to William Gwilliam in 1868 .
I do have photos of the grave, the workhouses etc. if you would like copies of these, more recent photos though.
If you have further information to give me, would really appreciate that, as we were totally surprised to find Robert's grave at the Churchyard when we visited in 2010. I wonder now whether George Kearn (his father) was also buried there. Would love any new information to include in my family history.
cheers jan
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Hi Magnolia Fan
Just checking in to see that you got this information okay. Jan
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Hi jan,
I certainly did. Very much appreciated and thank you very much for the info I'm going to head to the new archives and records office in the next few weeks to go through their records with the information I had gathered and your new information which will Definetly help with my search.
Lewis
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Great thank you Lewis, if you've got any further information for me, I would really appreciate that.
Jan
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Hi jan/Jim
I know it has been several years since our last messages. Was wondering if you ever had any more information on the Kearn family?
I now live in the forge (or what was once the smithy or the smith shop) and have begun my investigations once more.
I was at the graveyard today in tyberton and had noticed a few names and wondered if any you would be able to shed light on?
Hope you’re well
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Hi Magnolia fan,
Well lovely to hear back,I don't have much more information on the Kearn family, only that I have found one of the descendants having migrated to Australia, prior to my Grandparents coming here. Did you manage to find the grave of Robert Kearn at the Tyberton Church?
Can you run past me some of the names that might interest you, of the graves which you might like me to shed light on. In the meantime, I will go back on to my tree to see what I can find.
Jan
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Hi again Magnolia Fan,
One thing I've found is in 1881 Census, Robert Kearn aged 57, Gardener at Tyberton Court living with his second wife Caroline and two children John Kearn 23 and Alice 13 at the Smiths Shop.
Jan