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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cavan => Topic started by: McKeonFamily on Tuesday 30 June 15 01:03 BST (UK)
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Hello, I am the gr. gr. grand-daughter of John MCKEON (married Lucy Ann Whitfield 29 Jan 1864 in Durham, Eng. - found via FREE BMD). John MCKEON was born June 1838 in Co. Cavan and his baptism record (I believe I have the correct one) is from the Parish Drumgoon in Co. Cavan. The baptism record shows his parents as John MCKEON & Mary PORTER (informants listed as Arthur MCGUIRK & Mary SMYTH but no sponsors).
I am currently searching for John MCKEON's parents, siblings, aunts, uncles etc.
Here is some information regarding John MCKEON and his wife Lucy (Whitfield):
They had several children (only one, that I know of, didn't make it to adulthood) and lived in Tudhoe, Durham, Eng. John MCKEON died 7 Apr. 1908 and Lucy Ann (Whitfield) McKeon died 3 Oct. 1897 (born 13 Feb. 1843 Trimdon, Durham, Eng. - parents: Anthony Atkinson Whitfield and Mary Hart). Lucy and John MCKEON ran the Fountain Hotel, Consett, Durham, Eng. and Lucy died in the hotel a few days before they were to retire. John MCKEON was a Constable in Tudhoe, Durham, Eng.
I believe John McKeon immigrated before the 1861 census to Eng. (haven't found him on a prior census) I did find him in Chilton, Durham, Eng. on the 1861 census (he was listed as 23 years old). I don't know which port, in Ireland, he left from and have had a few leads on his parents and siblings but nothing solid.
Does anyone have any information for my John MCKEON (baptised 1 July 1838, Parish Drumgoon, Co. Cavan and immigrated prior to 1861 census in Chilton, Durham, Eng.)?
Regards,
Alexandra
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Drumgoon C of I Parish?
Drumgoon RC Parish?
If RC then registers are coming on line, free, in just over a week.
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Just want to point out that there really wasn't any 'immigration' involved- it was simply moving from one part of the U.K. to another. Thus, no records were kept of people travelling from Ireland to England, Scotland and Wales.
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Hi,
@ aghadowey: Thanks for clarification on "immigration" ... reading my post now and realize I used incorrect term. What I'm looking for is where might there be records of travel from Ireland to England (or are there records)?
@Hallmark: The birth cert. I have says Roman Catholic Parish but doesn't say in which church the baptism was held. Any thoughts? Thanks for letting me know RC records will be available online soon. Will they be available here on Roots or another site? Am chomping at the bit (so to speak) to find out more info.
Thank you both for replying,
Alexandra
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8th July is due release date, not sure of exact web link they will be on yet.
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http://www.nli.ie/en/list/latest-news.aspx?article=2345487b-12cb-4de2-91dc-f43bed57a577
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As I already mentioned, no records were kept of people travelling between Ireland and England, Scotland and Wales.
The birth cert. I have says Roman Catholic Parish but doesn't say in which church the baptism was held.
The baptism would have taken place in the Parish (Catholic) Church.
http://www.kilmorediocese.ie/diocese/parishes/29-drumgoon
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@Hallmark: Thanks for the link! Bookmarked and will check back around the 8th to see if there are any updates there.
@aghadowey: Thank you! I'll look at that link for the diocese.
Regards,
Alexandra
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Hi Alexander
How do you know that you have the correct baptism ?
Did you already have both his parent's names BEFORE you started looking for the baptism ?
Tara
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Oooops Alexandra ;D
Tara
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Hi Tara,
I am 99% sure I have the correct baptism record.
Why do you ask? Do you know anything about this John McKeon?
Regards,
Alexandra (not alexander lol)
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Hi There
You would only know that you had the correct baptism by knowing both his parent's names prior to searching, and knowing what town land in Ireland he came from.
I am just worried that you may have found A baptism and are presuming that it is for your ancestor.
If you got it on rootsireland, not all churches are on it, not all churches go back as far as you are looking for.
There are missing years and mistranscriptions etc to account for more missing records.
I just hope you aren't running with the first record you found.
Hope that makes sense !
Tara
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Hi Tara,
I spent many months narrowing down and cross-referencing and I do hope I have the correct baptism record! I have never known what John's mothers name is ... that is my only concern. Perhaps I should double check church records for John and his family (in Durham) to see if they attended a RC church or not, but then again they could have switched to Anglican :P lol
My cousin (Robert - he's been researching the family for decades) is John MCKEON's grandson who told me John was born in Co. Cavan (Drumgoon) 1838-39, census confirms birth year 1838 in the 1861-1901 census (and if memory serves 1 of the census said either Drumgoon or Co. Cavan as place of birth - I'd have to look), and FreeBMD also confirms birth year. I found the only baptism record in Drumgoon for a John MCKEON in 1838 via rootsireland.ie. Additionally, my paternal grandfather was John MCKEON's grandson and he wrote up our family history back in the late 1970's thru mid 1980's, however, he was only able to write about his maternal grandfather (John McKeon) from his mother's recollections (he had much more success with his paternal line).
I might be on the wrong trail but it's the most solid trail I have right now (been working on this one family member for 1.5 years).
Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help. :)
Alexandra
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http://cavan.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=sources.tpl&selectedMenu=sources
If you do have a census that says he was from Dromgoon in Cavan then that is a great starting point.
Dromgoon's records go quite far back (well, good for Irish records) so that's a plus.
Well, that's for RC and COI.
Was John one if these religions and does the record match that ?
Did John have daughters ?
If so, what were their names and date orders ?
Tara
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http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/cavan/drumgoon.htm
McKeon & Porters in Drumgoon GV.
What did John give as his father's occupation on his marriage cert ?
Tara
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Hi Tara,
Yes, John and Lucy (Whitfield) McKeon had several daughters and sons. (all born in Durham Co., Eng.) Not sure how their names will help; please advise.
I do not have a copy of the marriage certificate I verified the marriage date at FreeBMD with what my grandfather had written. Just checked FreeBMD and the only image they have is a list of marriages performed, dates, names, counties etc. Looking to see how I go about getting actual copy of certificate.
-have to run out for a few hours. will check back later or tomorrow morning-
Alexandra
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Hi
There was a strong naming pattern in Irish families, so by looking at John's daughter's names in order gives great leads.
If you are working with the correct baptism then I would expect Johns first or second daughter to be called Mary.
The marriage cert will have John's father's occupation on it.
This will help look for the family in Ireland.
Also I would advise you to confirm where the Drumgoon reference came from.
Tara
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http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/cavan/drumgoon.htm
McKeon & Porters in Drumgoon GV.
Thanks Tara! :)
I'll check out the link once I get home.
Alexandra
What did John give as his father's occupation on his marriage cert ?
Tara
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Hello, John Mckeon was my hubby's G.G. Grandfather,(from Co Durham) are you still interested investigting that line?
All the best
Annette
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Hello Annette,
Yes, I am still working on this part of my family, and would love any information on John McKeon that you might have.
Thanks for getting back to me.
Alexandra
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Hi Alexandra
I have a (very grainy) copy of a photo if you would like it? I don't know how to post it on here, if you DM me an email address, I can send it to you?
Cheers
Annette