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Title: Redding
Post by: davidr on Tuesday 30 June 15 19:41 BST (UK)
Looking for anything on Redding name around Aston, Birmingham from 1800s onwards.
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 30 June 15 19:57 BST (UK)
Looking for anything on Redding name around Aston, Birmingham from 1800s onwards.

Hi and welcome to Rootschat ,  are their any particular families you would like information on, as you would appreciate searches for Redding only could take some time?!
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: davidr on Tuesday 30 June 15 20:52 BST (UK)
Thank you for the reply. Redding pre 1840 is main interest at the moment.    Found marriage of Thomas and Ann Redding (nee Slater) in Trininty street Birmingham in 1839, but unable to locate them prior to that.
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: cath151 on Tuesday 30 June 15 21:03 BST (UK)
Hi, welcome :)
Familysearch has the following
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Athomas~%20%2Bsurname%3Aredding~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3Aengland~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1839-1839~
So father Thomas.
Do you have the marriage certificate giving Thomas' age,father and his occupation.
There is a birth for a Thomas Reading St Phillips Birmingham 21 Oct 1821 parents Thomas and Dorothy but perhaps too young.
Cathy



Title: Re: Redding
Post by: davidr on Tuesday 30 June 15 21:19 BST (UK)
Thank you for the reply.  Have the marriage certificate of Thomas Redding/Ann Slater June 24th 1839.  Both "of Full Age", presume that means 21years old, or does that mean he was over 21years.  His father is  a Thomas Redding a Rake Maker as occupation.
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: GrahamSimons on Wednesday 01 July 15 10:13 BST (UK)
Full age can mean:
Aged 21
Over 21 (the most likely meaning)
Under 21 and not telling the truth (which is quite possible)

As a first guide in searching for their baptisms, I'd look for brides who were 21 to 25, grooms a bit older - 21 to 30; if no joy I'd broaden the age ranges a bit.
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 01 July 15 12:23 BST (UK)
Thomas the groom was a brickmaker, Thomas the father as has already been mentioned was a rake maker. The witnesses were both Reddings who could sign their name. One was Thos Redding and the other I can't read, possibly begins with S or J and 5 or 6 letters. Thomas (the groom) made his mark, Ann signed.
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 01 July 15 13:01 BST (UK)
I've found a Thomas and Ann in 1871, Thomas is a labourer born Marston Green abt 1813, Ann was born Shustock about 1815 and the have a son Alfred b abt 1856 occupation spade filer.

But in 1861, the same Thomas is a dairyman, which does seem rather different from a brickmaker, so I'm dubious about whether this is the right family. There are two further children, Ellen b abt 1851 and Arthur b abt 1853.

Do you know if Thomas and Ann stayed in Aston / Birmingham area after their marriage and do any of the children's names mean anything?
 
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 01 July 15 14:17 BST (UK)
Some parish records for Shustoke are on line, so I looked for an Ann baptised around 1815, several possibilities but no Ann Slater. But there are Thomas 1817, William 1819, Sarah 1820, and John 1822, all children of John Slater and Hannah. John is a labourer. Shustoke looks like quite a small place with only a handful of baptisms per year.
Looking at likely marriages, I found John Slater married Hannah Bullers in Grendon on 24 Nov 1814. witnesses Elizabeth Bullers and Henry Slater. The bride was of Grendon parish. John Slater was from Nether Whitacre (very close to Shustoke).

If John and Hannah married in 1814, there is a space for an Ann to fit in before Thomas in 1817.
I was about to give up on this idea, then I found a baptism of Ann on 25th Dec 1815 at Nether Whitacre to John and Hannah indexed as Pater, but the image looks like Slater, although it is rather faint.
So I think this is strong evidence that the Thomas and Ann I found are actually the right ones, despite Thomas changing his occupation.

Added
Don't think it was mentioned earlier, marriage record for Thomas Redding and Ann Slater said her father was John Slater labourer
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 01 July 15 15:29 BST (UK)
I think we've got a bit further.

A bit of Googling about Marston green, Thomas's birthplace, came up with it as a hamlet of Bickenhill.
So likely he was baptised at Bickenhill. Familysearch has a baptism for a Thomas Reading son of Thomas and Mary, 17 Feb 1811. So this is a possibility. Ancestry has image but no further information.
The same couple have a Sarah baptised in 1804 and a William in 1806.
In 1809 there is a John son of John and Mary Reading. Given no other baptisms to JOHN and mary and it would fit nicely between William and Thomas, I am wondering if that should be Thomas and mary and the clerk has got father's name confused with the child's.
 
Title: Re: Redding
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 01 July 15 15:56 BST (UK)
And a few more for Thomas and Mary in Bickenhill, with variations of surname
Ann Redden 3 Sep 1813
Mary Reddin 19 Nov 1815
Lucy Reddin 22 mar 1818
George Reddin 12 Sep 1824

These later baptisms in new format register, which gives abode and occupation. In all cases abode is marston Green and in all except the baptism of George it says occupation rake maker. For George it says labourer. It seems to be different writing (different clerk) so he may be more general with occupations.
I think that is fairly certain we have both Thomas and Ann's families now.

Title: Re: Redding
Post by: davidr on Wednesday 01 July 15 23:35 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the help in this.  Unable to prove yet that Thomas and Ann stayed in Aston/Birmingham, but most of the decending family have been traced to that area.  Work varies from bricklayer to farm labourer throughout.  Have found a Thomas on his own in a Lodging house in Birmingham later life but yet to prove.  The Slater information has been a great help, now found they eventually had seventeen children in Shustoke /Whitacre (two died).  Poor woman must have been worn out!!  As Shustoke and Whitacre were only, and still are very small villages, they must have took over the place.  Can see where I was going up the wrong path now, thank you again for your help.