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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: Pinetree on Friday 03 July 15 09:43 BST (UK)
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This is a very long shot but I just wondered if anyone could help me to find out what became of Frances BLACKBURN. She had 9 siblings and is the only one I have not been able to trace beyond the 1911 census.
She was born in 1885 in Wigginton, York to Joseph and Elizabeth (nee Waterton) Blackburn and was their 9th child of 10. She was baptised on 15 March 1885 in Wigginton.
In 1911 she is unmarried and living with her parents and younger sister Mary in Haxby.
She may have married serviceman and possibly lived at Green Hammerton or Kirk Hammerton in 1940s.
All very vague I'm afraid but thought I'd post anyway - you never know ;)
Pinetree
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It's frustrating isn't it when you have just one you can't trace. I have one sibling of nine missing too but back to Frances.
Do you know if she pops up on any of her siblings marriages for instance as a witness?
Wonder if she died a spinster if she was unmarried at the grand old age of 26 in 1911!
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long shot but did she have a sister Elsie Elizabeth who married Harold Richard Simpson (just looking for spinster deaths)
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Have you got the death certificates of both parents to see who the informants were?
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Thank you both for your replies.
Milliepede, all of her siblings that married did so before 1911 so no help there. I did wonder about ordering Frances's birth certificate so I had an exact date of birth to check against potential "Frances" death references but I have a feeling she may have died before this was introduced. No Simpson connections I'm afraid but thank you for the suggestion.
Chempat ordering the death certificates is a good idea I hadn't thought of. I had details of their burials so the certificates weren't high on my "to get' list.
Thank you again for your interest.
Pinetree
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Just a follow up here, I ordered the birth certificate for Frances hoping that an exact date of birth might help to track her down on the death index or 1939 register but I still can't pin her down.
I thought it might be worth adding her dob of 28 Dec 1884 to this thread just in case anyone else can help with this extra information.
If this fails I may try ordering her father's death certificate from 1931 in the hope that might give some additional information.
Pinetree
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Found a Frances Blackburn who had sister Elsie Elizabeth on Probate records. (EDIT then realised you indicated no connection to Simpson - sorry!)
Goughy
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Hi Goughy,
Thank you for having a go. I have checked this again just to be sure but sadly definitely a different Frances.
Pinetree
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Have you looked to see if she is in any other person's tree from other sites?
If you can find no trace of her in England, then have you looked in Scotland, or could she have gone abroad?
Where did the speculation about marrying a serviceman and living at Green Hammerton or Kirk Hammerton in 1940s come from?
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Hi Chempat,
The information about the serviceman comes from a relative who remembers visiting her with his mother (Frances's niece) as a small child which would probably have been mid to late 40s.
She does feature on a couple of online trees but they do not have any additional information unfortunately.
It looks as if I may need to cast my net a bit wider or wait for 2022 and hope the 1921 census can help ;)
Thank you for your suggestions.
Pinetree
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Finally had a breakthrough ;D
She married for the first time at the grand old age of 70 in 1954 - finally found the clue from the register of electors for Green Hammerton 1957/58.
Husband was Thomas Alexander CAREY, widower, also 70.
So far so good however although I can find a probable death for Thomas in 1958 (Claro district) - there does not seem to be a suitable entry for Frances CAREY.
One step forward two steps back!
Pinetree
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Death certificate for Thomas, to see if Frances is informant, or has pre-deceased him?
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Well it appears she married again in 1960 but sadly died a few months later. She is buried in York cemetery.
Phew - got there in the end :)
Pinetree
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Pleased that you found her - did you manage to also find her in 1939 under any of her surnames?
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Hi Chempat,
Well therein lies a bit of a tale, I found who I believe was Thomas Carey living with Ellen Carey, Ellen being the name of his first wife but this Ellen was not his first wife as she was living elsewhere. The Ellen who was living with Thomas in 1939 gave her dob as 28 December 1884! So was this really Frances? Guess I'll never know for sure but it is interesting that they did not marry until 1954 - one year after Thomas's first wife Ellen died.
Pinetree
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Naughty lady. ;)
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No wonder the information that had passed down the family about her was a bit sketchy :o ;D