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Title: Engine Fitter
Post by: Cazza47 on Friday 03 July 15 14:24 BST (UK)
What kind of engines would an engine fitter be fitting in 1891 in Workington?
Could this job be later described as a caulker in 1911?
Thank you
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 03 July 15 14:32 BST (UK)
An Engine Fitter prepares, assembles and fits together the various engine parts from blue prints and specifications. He is not the same as a caulker which varies depending on the industry.

Stan
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 03 July 15 14:39 BST (UK)
An iron caulker smoothed off rivets with a hand hammer, tightened up plate seams by forcing the edges together with a caulking tool, he may also have drilled holes into a plate where necessary and injected red lead to form a seal.

Stan
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 03 July 15 14:43 BST (UK)
There is another thread on Engine Fitters at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=530604.0

Stan
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: Cazza47 on Friday 03 July 15 17:05 BST (UK)
Thanks Stan.
Am trying to find James Mcaulley born 1866 Scotland, he was living with his wife Edith Annie Simons in Workington 1891 census, with their first two children James and Jane. In 1901 Edith now calling herself Annie is still living with her mother Ann Simons with two younger children Francis And Alfred, but no sign of James and two older children. In 1911 census Edith Annie now living with children Jane, Francis, Elsie And Gordon but still no James. They must be getting together at some point because they keep having children!!
I found a james Mcaulley in 1911 census in the Stockton union workhouse who is a Caulker, in the 1891 census my James was a engine fitter, wondered if this was the same man.
Will keep searching.
Carol
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 03 July 15 18:56 BST (UK)
The James Mcaulley in the Stockton union workhouse would most likely be a ship caulker. There were 32 in Stockton-on-Tees in 1911.

Stan
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: Cazza47 on Friday 03 July 15 19:51 BST (UK)
Thanks again Stan
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: joboy on Friday 03 July 15 22:43 BST (UK)
Seems there was a 'Beerpot Iron Works' thereabouts so he may well have plied his trade there;
http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/thelakes/html/topics/lk02516f.htm
Joe
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 04 July 15 11:36 BST (UK)
A caulker/boilermaker, my father was one, different trade to a fitter or millwright.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: Cazza47 on Saturday 04 July 15 11:46 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone, I have obviously got the wrong man in the 1911 census.
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: deebel on Saturday 04 July 15 19:19 BST (UK)
Caulker was responsible for the watertightness of joints between plates usually rivetted  (Caulk is jointing compound - as the sell in B&Q or Wickes as Decorators Caulk (mastic gun)

An engine fitter is a trained mechanic who would be employed ongoing in areas where engines were used eg pumps, railways, ships, motor vehicles, cranes etc. It would not necessarily mean that the person originally installed the equipment.

Boilermaker was a skilled trade engineer / craft

Stockton was a great railway place. The first railway journey was from Stockton to Darlington if I recall correctly
Title: Re: Engine Fitter
Post by: hill.bonnie on Sunday 19 May 19 18:47 BST (UK)
Hello,
I am new to RootsChat. I found this thread by searching for Engine Fitter, which was listed as the occupation for my great grandfather John Hill on his marriage record in 1863.His parents were James Hill and Margaret McAuley.He was born in 1832 and married Jessie Grant in Stockton on Tees.

Family legend has it that he was a Sea Captain, but I have found no evidence of that. We have a "Captain's Desk Box" engraved with the following...John Hill CE, Calcutta, India 1874.
His first three children's births are recorded in different port cities, including Calcutta, suggesting his wife traveled with him. We wonder if he was a ship's engineer, and not a captain. We have a "boatload" of engineers in our family.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Bonnie