RootsChat.Com
England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: teddygreen1 on Sunday 05 July 15 11:15 BST (UK)
-
hi im trying to find out my brother in law family tree and i am stuck at joseph wild born 1840 in briely hill . there is talk that maybe his father was nimrod wild although although there is a vast age difference between son and dad. much appreciated if you can help thanks kath
-
Do you have Josephs Marriage Cert?
It will have his Fathers name/occp.
Trish :)
-
If he married Julie BARKER then his Father is Nimrod according to his M/C.
Marriage;
23 July 1866, Edensor, Staffs
Joseph WILD age 22, Father NIMROD
Julia BARKER age 26, Father WILLIAM Barker
(Familysearch.Org)
I see what you mean only Nimrod I can find was born c 1751 Hampshire.
-
If Joseph was born in 1840, who is he living with in 1841 and 1851 censuses?
If that is the correct age at marriage, he was born in about 1844.
Born about 1844 in 1871 census, but then showing as older in subsequent censuses?
-
Which Nimrod Wild are you trying to connect to?
On a private tree on Ancestry there is a claimed birth of about 1815 in Staffordshire.
-
Joseph Wild is something of a mystery in the family. Rumour had it about a name change somewhere along the line, and it happens to be with Joseph Wild, While or White. Prior to marrying Julia he appears to be married under the name of White to Elizabeth with baby William B. Julia Barker had a son John before marrying Joseph. We know about the generations afterwards. Probably going to remain a mystery I guess. Just seen the post about nimrod in 1815. That's great thanks.
-
That possible Marriage is on F/S also to Elizabeth FOSTER, Father GEORGE Foster
Josephs Father is WILLIAM Wild
18 Feb 1861 Rowley-Regis, Stafford
-
Thank you
-
Hi Everyone. I am floored. I have been chasing Nimrod and Joseph WILD for donkeys years. I am the granddaughter of Zachariah, son of Joseph and would love to swap details with you. A name change is a staggering point of interest and would account for the brick wall I have bounced of for so long. Hope to hear from you soon. Mary
-
Hi Mary, my sister and I had a brief look at my husbands ancestry during a bit of a lull in our own research. He's not as enthusiastic as we are so we haven't continued :(
His direct descendant is Zachariahs brother. Unfortunately hubby's father passed away when he was a boy and he didn't know his grandparents. As I said a name change was mentioned once and curiosity got the better of me and I wanted to try and find it. All the information I have is on this thread. I think it throws up more questions than answers!
-
That possible Marriage is on F/S also to Elizabeth FOSTER, Father GEORGE Foster
Josephs Father is WILLIAM Wild
18 Feb 1861 Rowley-Regis, Stafford
Hi Happy Me.
Are you related to Joseph and Nimrod WILD?? Interested swapping details if you wish.
I am Joe's G-granddaughter, Mary in Australia
-
Hi Mary, my sister and I had a brief look at my husbands ancestry during a bit of a lull in our own research. He's not as enthusiastic as we are so we haven't continued :(
His direct descendant is Zachariahs brother. Unfortunately hubby's father passed away when he was a boy and he didn't know his grandparents. As I said a name change was mentioned once and curiosity got the better of me and I wanted to try and find it. All the information I have is on this thread. I think it throws up more questions than answers!
Hi. Interested in where you fit in tree. Are you related through William, Joseph WILD or John WILD or BARKER as not sure if John is son of Joseph by looking at 1881 census.
Curiosity is the prompt we need to search for something - I have been blocked with anything before Zachariah.
Love to hear from you. Mary
-
Hi Mary, my husband is a great grandson of William Wild Zachariahs brother.
I can see how you've been trying for years to get past Joseph Wild! If I do find out any information I'll P.M you.
-
Hi
I am the great granddaughter of William too, my grandfather was Williams' son Henry (Harry).
Like Mary we have been searching for Nimrod for a number of years. But still no birth records for Joseph. We thought we had found him in the workhouse with his mother in 1851 at Dudley? Possible sisters Zipporah and Pomia ( 1841 census). Any thoughts ? We know Zipporah is a family name.
JQD
-
1841 in Rowley Regis, Staffs we have;
George Foster, 45, Nailer
Mary Foster, 30
Maria Foster, 20, Nailer
Thomas Foster, 13
William Foster, 10
Phoebe Foster, 7
Mary Foster, 4
Emma Foster, 2
Elizabeth Foster, 3 Mths
Nancy Foster, 80
Baptism;
MARIA Foster, 28 March 1819, St Giles, Rowley, Regis, Staffs
Parents GEORGE/PHEBE
Fathers Occp Nailer
Siblings;
NANNY, 7 March 1813
WILLIAM, 5 Feb 1815
GEORGE, 11 Feb 1816
1851 we have;
George Foster, 59
Mary Foster, 44
William Foster, 20
Phebe Foster, 17
Mary Foster, 15
Emma Foster, 12
Elizabeth Foster, 10
Edward Foster, 8
Joseph Foster, 6
Samuel Foster, 3
Thomas Foster, 22
Nest Baptisms I can find St Giles are;
MARY, 14 Aug 1836
EMMA, 14 Oct 1838
ELIZABETH, 18 April 1841
EWARD, 30 Oct 1842
Parents GEORGE/MARY
Fathers Occp Nailer
1861 we have;
George Foster, 69
Mary Foster, 55
Edward Foster, 16
Joseph Foster, 16
Samuel Foster, 13
Sarah Ann Foster, 7
Joseph WHITE, 21, Lodger***
Elizabeth White, 20
William White, 1mth
Georges 2nd Wife was Mary ROSE, married 20 May 1833, St Thomas, Dudley Staffs
She a Spinster, he was a Widower.
I cant find a Joseph/Samuel to George/Mary c 1845/1848 or a Thomas c 1829 to George/Phoebe
What I was trying to figure out is whether George married 2 MARYS and the Mary is the 1861 Census where Joseph White/Wild appears is his Mother.
But unfortunately I have failed ::)
But seeing I had already typed all this up I have posted as others may be researching the Foster line in the future.
-
Hi Mary, my husband is a great grandson of William Wild Zachariahs brother.
I can see how you've been trying for years to get past Joseph Wild! If I do find out any information I'll P.M you.
Hi
Which of Williams sons is your husband related too? I am happy to fill you in on Henry's side (the little I know). Your husbands father and my dad must be cousins so presumably knew each other when they were young.
It would be good to find out more about the family.
JQD
-
i think ive found joseph and julia marriage certificate . fathers name is not clear what do others think
-
Its definitely Nimrod Wild, Blacksmith.
I gave you that info in 2015.
Trish :)
-
yes i know thanks. we were looking at it again as still have a brickwall with nimrod .
-
It is possible Nimrod liked to use another name.
Quite a brickwall you have and hopefully in the future something will turn up.
Trish :)
-
Yes quite a brick wall we have, I think other people are also trying to knock that brick wall down. Joseph Wilds daughter Gipporah called her son Nimrod so it must be a family name.
William is also a family name down the generations and I have wondered if Nimrod was really William and just fancied the name Nimrod! ; ;D
Anyway thank you for your help.
-
Hello, it's been about 11 months since our last post on this thread regarding Nimrod Wild our brick wall and we've had another go at trying to track down his son Josephs birth. There is nothing at all with Nimrod as a father to Joseph.
On Josephs marriage certificate to Julia Barker it clearly states that his father was Nimrod and that he was a blacksmith. We also know that Joseph and Julia's daughter Gipporah had a son called Nimrod so obviously the name must have been important to them.
We know that the name William has run through the family and thought that maybe Nimrod might be a William and was using the name Nimrod. Various Census state that Joseph was born in Brierley Hill.
We have a birth certificate for Joseph Wilde b/d 2 April 1844 at the Round Oak.(Kingswinford) father William Wilde a pudler, mother Rebecca Wilde formally Fox.
Everything seems to be ok with this birth, i. e timescale/area apart from the father being William.
We be grateful to hear if anyone thinks it's a possibility we might be on the right track. Thanks.
-
I was interested in this thread as my husbands g g grandfather was a Joseph Wild living in Fenton, Stoke on Trent, but unfortunately it turned out not to be your Joseph Wild. Your story is interesting though. I don't think you can say conclusively that William Wild is Nimrod Wild, however you may be able to find more evidence. Do any of the other children name the father as Nimrod rather than William? I wonder if he is named as Nimrod on his gravestone (if you could possibly find it)
Sorry not to be any real help
Chris
-
Hi Chris, I think Nimrod is going to remain our brick wall, I want to believe that the certificate we've got is the right one with William as Josephs father but I agree with you that we can't say conclusively that he is. All I know is that Gipporah Josephs daughter called her son Nimrod.
I'm probably biased towards the name William because my late husband was descended from Josephs son William and the name has come down the line although not with my husband or son.
I do know that others are looking for Nimrod. The only one we found was in Hampshire around 1751 which is too early to be Josephs father. Someone on another site suggested he might be our Nimrods father and a Romani Gypsy as there were Romani gypsies around Hampshire and that sometimes they changed names and moved around. ...... I wouldn't have a clue :)
I'm not from Staffordshire and don't know the Stoke on Trent area, at least with my own ancestors I do know where to go grave hunting. ;D.
Thank you for your reply.
Maureen.