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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: brigidmac on Sunday 05 July 15 23:25 BST (UK)
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Any idea how i can find out what became of my grandma's cousins after 1911
Am looking for children of Benjamin Bloch + Rebecca nee Fellman both born late 1860's Russia
they married in manchester in 1896
the children from 1911 cencus Dundee were ;geiss-eida aged 13
Dina 11yrs
sarah aged 9
Esther 8
Minnie 8
Barnet 2
Rosie 1
their eldest son Elias should be aged 12 but is not with them ....I didn't find a record of his death so he could be elsewhere
Haven't found records of any marriages
I know Rebecca (+Benjamin )Bloch were living in Glasgow in 1920 as listed as next of kin on my ggfather's hospital records .
Benjamin Bloch died aged 75 in 1944 in Glasgow + Rebecca lived til 1960 aged 88
I hope their children lived long too and wonder if any also emigrated to USA .
Any help on this one greatly appreciated ;I doubt if they angliscised their names to Black as Rebecca's death records maintained the Bloch spelling but her mother's name is given as "Edith" russian records has her as Geis-Ada so maybe Rebecca's eldest daughter also reverted to a more British sounding 1st name .
i have a board on USA site re the Fellman cousins http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=702215.msg5519415#msg5519415
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Hi brigidmac,
Only time for a quick look, but it seems Elias became a doctor, graduating from the University of Glasgow in 1925. From the medical directories:
Elias Bloch, 25 Battlefield Ave, Langside, Glasgow, Date & Place of Registration: 20 Oct 1925 S, MB, CH B; 1928 DPH University of Glasgow
Obituary here:
• [PDF]OBITUARY
europepmc.org/articles/PMC1341897/pdf/bmjcred00259-0061.pdf
ADDED: Scotlands People have Elias' 1986 death record. It will have to be sent for as it's to recent to be downloaded directly
brigau
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Thank you so much ;
I've also just found him + Edith Bloch both got 2 year stipenderies at Harris acadamy Dundee .for 6th + 7th class
the address given is William St same as on 1911 census so I can also see that although she was Geiss-Ada (or Goose-eida on 1901 census) she went by the name of Edith at least for school
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also found a marriage + death for Dinah Emily Bloch
married Abraham Levy 1923 from Battlefield Av address
She died 1983 aged 84 in Glasgow listed as Martha st but i have a feeling that it is the name of the area not just a street .
1986 death for elias Bloch also listed as "martha st" on Scotlands people site
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abraham Levy is cited as brother in law in Elias Bloch obitury ; wives + children not mentioned I don't know if this means Elias did not marry ,.
abraham levy aged 33 married Dinah Emily Bloch aged 23 in 1923
Edith Bloch married Montague Harris in 1921 but he died the same year
She must have married someone called Gompertz as she is on a boat to USA aged 44 in 1943 with twins aged 10 visiting her aunt M. Ginsberg who is 1 of my nana's Russian /American aunts
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Hi,
If I'm not mistaken, Martha Street, was the address of the Registrar for births, marriages and deaths in the central area of Glasgow.
Istrice
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That's right. I used to go there, but last time I went I saw a notice on the door saying that it had closed. It gave directions to go down the hill at John Street, cross over George Street and the building on the right is where the registry offices now are. Martha Street was a bit old-fashioned.
It has all been modernized now. When your name is called you go to a booth where someone is sitting beside a computer. (There are lots of these booths). You sit there giving information and they do the look-up on the computer there and then as you watch. It means that if there is a problem tracing, for instance, an old certificate, they can ask you for more information right away.
Previously, at Martha St, you would be called to a counter to give the information for the certificate you wanted, and the clerk would then disappear for five minutes and eventually return. It is probably more efficient and speedier the way it is now.
Martha Street was up the hill from George Square, right in the centre of Glasgow.
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Thanks for that information . I'm doing all my research via computer ..it's too far for me to travel to Scotland !
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If I'm not mistaken, Martha Street was the address of the Registrar for births, marriages and deaths in the central area of Glasgow.
Yes.
Interestingly, however, Martha Street isn't listed as a RD in the GROS Guide for Researchers No 2 Index to Registration Districts published in December 1985. So it must have been used as an alternative name for one or more of the central Glasgow RDs.
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Today I looked at Glasgow valuation rolls then checked a marriage certificate
Found that Maurice Bloch of 39 Newark Drive witnessed his sisters marriage 1923
His mother Leah Mrs Bloch was on VR at that address from 1920-1930
Before that she was at Craigmiller road Glasgow in 1915
eldest son Elias Bloch b Dundee
was a lodger in 1911 at
49 Craigmiller Road
With a Hebrew minister Marcus and Milly KATZ
17 Craigmiller Road is the address given on
Maurice Bloch s naturalization
document 1910
I got a big surprise to see that that document was signed by the right honerable Winsto Lenard Spencer CHURCHILL
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I think the Katz family may be related somehow .we are only linked by marriage but my mum's DNA is showing as matching a couple of people with Fleissing on their trees...closed !
1911 census they'd been married
22 years Marcus 39 Milly 37 a d daughter 20 all born Austria
Taking in young scholar Elias aged 12 born Dundee
& Another lodger Soloman Priestman traveller jeweller b Russia
VR 1915 + 1920 Marcus KATZ at 65 Sinclair St
Fanny Milly Fleissing KATZ left probate to Maurice Bloch wine merchant
Fred Nettles .furrier
and Harris SUNSHINE .tailor of 399Argyll street
Maybe one is husband of her daughter Sarah.
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The uncle Maurice Bloch was knighted
For anyone researching Bloch s in scotland
Benjamins father was
Elias Bloch b 1838 d 1896
Mother/Step mother leah feepah b1858 d1936 Dundee
Both born Kovno Russian empire now Lithuania
Eldest children Benjamin ,1868 annie . janie 1878 ,maurice born Russia
Joseph
Born Dundee ,1886
Followed by lizzie
Minnie
Rosa b 1892
0lder children were living in Glasgow later