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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: earlybird on Wednesday 08 July 15 08:36 BST (UK)
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Am interested to hear what became of Private Richard William Stringer (29th Battalion, transferred to 32nd Battalion late 1918) after WW1. He was awarded the MM along with my grandfather in 1919 for 'conspicuous courage and devotion to duty' late in 1918 but I'm keen to hear about his life following the war. According to the National Archives, Stringer was born in Lauriston, Victoria. He was about 32 years of age and was not married at the time of enlistment. The National Archives show he was residing in Robert Street, Westgarth in 1925. I've deliberately posted here because I'm interested in his life pre and post war. Did he every marry or have children when he returned? What did he do for a living when he returned to Aust? 'Stringer' is a well known family name in the mid-north of South Australia and I initially thought he may have been from that region. The NA records prove me wrong on that point. EB
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Born 1882 reg 24088 Kyneton son of Robert and Sarah Ann Woodman.
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Thanks, well that's a start.
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Marriage
KERR, Myrtle Hannah Mary
STRINGER, Richard William
1922. Reg 9509
Death
STRINGER Richd Wm
Father Stringer Robt Jno
Mother Sarah WOODMAN
At NCOTE
Age 61
Year 1943
Reg Number 12539
Fawkner Garden Of Remembrance 1
Location GR1A*39***77
STRINGER Richard Willliam
Date29 Oct 1943
Age 61
Death of his Wife
STRINGER Myrtle Hannah Ma
Father Kerr Archibald
Mother Mary
At BOXH
Age 91
Year 1982
Reg Number 16245
Springvale Botanical Cemetery
STRINGER, Myrtle Hannah Mary
Date of Birth 25 November 1890
Date of Death 13 July 1982
Date of Service 16 July 1982
Burial Type Cremated Age 91
Sue
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PROV Index to Wills, Probate and Administration Records
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fms/
Richard W. STRINGER; Mechanic; Westgarth; date of death 27 Oct 1943
The Argus 30Oct1943 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/11801923
STRINGER. - On October 27, at his residence 97 Robert-street, Northcote, loved husband of Myrtle, loving father of Len (RAAF), Betty and Nancy.
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Birth of Myrtle.
I wonder if the mothers of Richard and Myrtle were sisters
KERR Myrtle Hannah Mary
Father Archd CORSTORPH
Mother Mary WOODMAN
At COLLINGWOOD
Year 1890
Reg. Number 31575
Sue
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Oh! That's interesting! Are you allowed to marry your first cousin?
Wonder if the son is still alive? Apparently my grandfather employed a 'Stringer' for a short time to help with the harvest and the family has always wondered if the young man had any connection to RW Stringer. I'll check with my mother and uncle to see if they can recall his first name. Any other children?
Thanks for the feedback so far. EB
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loving father of Len (RAAF), Betty and Nancy. ::)
Whoops, yes there are other children!
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The Argus 27Jan1923 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1871795
STRINGER--KERR -On the 23rd December, at St. Jude's Church of England, Alphington, by the Rev. K. L. Crossly, Richard William, third son of the late Robert Stringer, Lauriston, to Myrtle, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. A. C. Kerr, of "Millewa." Como Street, Alphington. Present address, 576 Old South-road, Woollahra, Sydney.
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Could this be the son?
The Argus 29Jan 1947 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22405187
DEATHS
On Active Service
STRINGER. - 419679. Flight-Sgt. Leonard William, previously reported missing, now presumed to have lost his life at Manokwari on April 28, 1944. -A tribute from the staff of Munitions Supply Laboratories, Maribyrnong.
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Could this be the son?
The Argus 29Jan 1947 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22405187
DEATHS
On Active Service
STRINGER. - 419679. Flight-Sgt. Leonard William, previously reported missing, now presumed to have lost his life at Manokwari on April 28, 1944. -A tribute from the staff of Munitions Supply Laboratories, Maribyrnong.
I think so.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=R&veteranId=1017904
The family had this spelling for him perhaps and the staff of the above Laboratories used another.
M Stringer, NOK was perhaps Myrtle.
Sue
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www.naa.gov.au
STRINGER, Lenard William - (Flight Sergeant); Service Number - 419679; File type - Casualty - Repatriation; Aircraft - Catalina A24-49; Place - Vogelkop, Dutch New Guinea; Date - 28 April 1944
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=1078767
STRINGER LENARD WILLIAM : Service Number - 419679 : Date of birth - 15 Sep 1923 : Place of birth - ALPHINGTON VIC : Place of enlistment - MELBOURNE : Next of Kin - STRINGER M.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=5539506
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OK, sad Lenard didn't survive WW2 when his father managed to get through WW1. Thank goodness he died after his father! I've sent a text to my uncle.
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The Argus 25Jan1947 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22404470
STRINGER.-419679 Flight-Sergeant Lenard William, previously reported missing, now
presumed to have lost his life at Manokuari on April 28, 1944, beloved son of Myrtle and the late R. W. (Bill), dearly loved brother of Betty and Nancy. -For ever in our hearts.(97 Robert street, Northcote.)
STRINGER. - Fllght-Sergt. Len Stringer R.A.A.F.. previously reported missing April 28, 1944. now presumed dead, dearly loved nephew of A. and D. Morgan (Essendon), and cousin of Mill, Bob, and Alan.
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There is a tree on Ancestry http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fmu/
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Thanks Cup-of-Life, My uncle has replied and after all of that research by you and others he says the Stringer who worked for them in the early 1940s was a 'Keith Stringer'. I can't see any close relationship to RW Stringer so it may have been coincidental that they share the same surname.
I appreciate you time! EB
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Thanks Cup-of-Life, My uncle has replied and after all of that research by you and others he says the Stringer who worked for them in the early 1940s was a 'Keith Stringer'. I can't see any close relationship to RW Stringer so it may have been coincidental that they share the same surname.
I appreciate you time! EB
I am a bit ??? ??? here.
Is your query about Richard William STRINGER and his life-
OR
the identity of the itinerant worker Keith STRINGER??
Sue
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Sorry Sparrett, Yes my last post was a bit ambiguous. I realised after I sent the post it sounded like the research had been done in vain when in fact that was not the case. The information about RW Stringer is all very useful and my family will be pleased to hear about what became of the chap who spent a moment in time with my grandfather as they battled for their lives in 1918. I'm still to find out what RW did for a living when he returned home. The NA records show he'd received injuries during the war so it would be interesting to know if he was able to return to work? My grandfather destroyed a lot of photos records etc. in the 1960s so we don't know if he ever had contact with RW following the war.
As for Keith Stringer - had there been a link to RW then the circle would have been complete. I'm sure my grandfather would have asked questions before employing him. Was there any connection e.g. nephew? That question may never be answered. Thanks again to all of you. I do appreciate your assistance. EB
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I understand now.
I will type up some electoral information for you so you may see his addresses and occupation. ;D
Sue
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Electoral Roll information-
First registration
1906
Lauriston
STRINGER, Richard William. Engine driver.
This is unchanged to 1919.
1924
Millewa, Como St. Alphington.
STRINGER, Richard William. Fitter
STRINGER, Myrtle . HD
1925
97 Robert St. Northcote.
STRINGER, Richard William. Fitter
STRINGER, Myrtle . HD
Unchanged in 1927
1931 to 1942
97 Robert St. Northcote.
STRINGER, Richard William. Engine driver.
STRINGER, Myrtle . HD
The mothers of the couple Richard and Myrtle do not appear to be sisters.
Death of Myrtle's mother
Surname KERR Mary
Father Woodman Saml
Mother Hanna CARTER
At FFIELD
Age 57
Year 1925
Reg Number 13415
Death of Richard's mother
STRINGER Sarah Ann
Father Woodman William
Mother Mary Ann HARRIS
Age 29
At KTON
Year1884
Reg Number 9404
After the death of Sarah Ann, Robert STRINGER, Richard's father, remarried.
STRINGER Robt
Flor BEARE (Born WICKLOW)
Year 1889
Reg. 257
There were a number of births to the couple including one Thomas Charles STRINGER in 1890. [reg 33942]
He was a carpenter at Lauriston by 1912 and could be the Charles STRINGER, step-brother, listed by Richard as NOK on his Army file.
Sue
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Sue, You're a legend! You've spent a lot of your time & gone to a lot of trouble. Thank you :)
I smiled when I saw the name Harris! :D I'm not even going there.
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Hi early bird, I am Richard William Stringer's grandson and may be able to help you with any questions you might have about our family. Regards frontline.
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Hello Frontline, what a small world! I see this is your first posting to RootsChat. How did you stumble across this thread about your grandfather?
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I googled his name as an easy way to access the war memorial website and your enquiry came up at the top of the page,so I joined rootschat to correspond with you.
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Welcome aboard. I guess one question I have is whether there is a Keith Stringer in your family and did he do some labouring work on a South Australian property in the 1940s?
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Our family has no connection with South Australia. The 29th battalion of which my grandfather was an original member was a Victorian battalion but was so decimated that it was disbanded in mid 1918 and merged with the 32nd battalion a South Australian battalion and this is where our relatives came together.
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Yes, correct. I was aware the 29th Battalion merged with the 32nd in 1918 but our family wondered whether our relatives remained in contact following the war and subsequently my grandfather hiring "Keith Stringer" (we thought possibly a relative of your grandfather). At this stage there doesn't appear to be any evidence that they had anything to do with each other following the war and it's probably pure coincidence that the labourer had the same surname. Keith Stringer is more likely to be related to the South Australian STRINGER family(ies) (well known in South Aussie Rules Football circles).
It would have made a great story if there had been a connection! :)
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Frontline, Did your grandfather have any brothers in WW1 with him? Is there a photo of your grandfather you'd be happy to put up on this thread?
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It would has made a great story but I have never heard of any correspondence between our grandfathers post WW1 but I am sure your family is just as proud of there heroics as our's is. :)
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Did your grandfather have any brothers in WW1 with him? Is there a photo of your grandfather you'd be happy to put up on this thread?
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Hi early bird, my grandfather had two cousins in the war. George Stringer was killed at Gallipoli and his brother Charles was repatriated home after being wounded in France. I would be more than happy to post a photo of grandpa, give me a few days to find something suitable. Regards Frontline.
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With the discovery of Catalina A24-25 near Cairns this week, my interest has been re-newed in the disappearance of A24-49 in April 1944, in which my father-in-law's brother was a crew member.
Catalina A24-49 Crew:
Pilot P/O Warwick Neville Rose, 400939 - 2nd Pilot F/O Allan Roger Meakin, 418142 - Navigator F/Sgt Lenard William Stringer, 419679 - W/AG F/Sgt Alexander John Hine, 415327 - W/AG F/Sgt James William Willesden, 427052 - W/AG F/Sgt Joseph Bass Miller, 406811 - Flight Engineer Sgt Alfred Harvey Brooks Wadham, 28840 - Flight Engineer Sgt Herbert John Alexander Coates, 35037 - Air Gunner Sgt Philip Charles Carter, 34396 - Air Gunner Sgt George Wise Whitley, 41312.
“A Mystery Unsolved...The Loss of Catalina A24-49”
Towards the end of WWII, in 1944, Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) Catalina "Maggie" A24-49, took off from northern Australia on a routine mission over enemy territory in the Dutch East Indies. The aircraft, with ten crew on board, vanished without a trace. For family members of those crewmen, this remains an enduring mystery. This book has been largely written and researched by historian Bob Alford, at the instigation of the nephew of the missing Catalina pilot, Tony Morgan. The book includes a thorough background on RAAF Catalina operations during WWII. Order your copy of this excellent book please contact Tony Morgan.
by Robert Alford, Tony Morgan, Avonmore Books 2015, Softcover, 110 pages, photos, illustrations, maps, ISBN: 0987151983
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Hi Earlybird,
Hopefully these will get through to you
and they can help your research.
Thanks, Frontline
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What wonderful photos Frontline! Your grandfather was a fine looking man.
For some reason the last 2 posts did not come through to my email so it's by sheer luck that I'm checking RC while waiting for something else to load.
Alan Penno's post is interesting. Strange how things pan out....
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My grand father was Albert stringer Richard step brother and George stringer's brother Albert and George's mother was flora beare. Just wondering if anyone has any information re their father father Robert stringer who was born in arklow ireland
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Hi Stringerk,
You have written
any information re their father father Robert stringer who was born in arklow ireland
Do you mean father's father (in other words grandfather)
OR
did you accidentally write the word father twice?
Sue
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Hi sue either Richard, George, Albert's father was Robert stringer and robert's Father was Richard stringer. Any information on either would be great have photographs of George and Robert.
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You might like to share with the helpers all that you do know about Robert STRINGER, the father of your Albert.
This will save people giving information you already know.
Robert STRINGER died in Victoria. He was a commission agent at Lauriston
STRINGER Robt
Father Stringer Richd
Mother Unknown UNKNOWN
Age 54
Death Place Lauriston
Year 1909
Reg. 5592
He left a large estate but did not make a will.
There was a lot of real estate.
You can read this document at
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54
It lists his surviving children at his death who are entitled to a share in the estate.
All surname STRINGER-
John
Robert Arthur
Richard William
Florence Mary
George
Leslie Edward
Evelyn Frances
Albert
Ethel
Francis.
A big family ;D
Sue
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A message for Frontline. Wondering what info you have on the awarding of RW's MM? My grandfather Clive Gillespie also won a MM for the same action, and their names were together on the commendation (a copy of which I have). Grandfather kept a war diary, but by 1918 he was writing very little, and the action for which they received their MMs gets no special mention, nor does he mention anyone's name.
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Hi Kewgee, my grandfather also kept diaries but the entries dropped off the longer the war went on. I will post a pic of what I have regarding the action resulting in the MM , not sure if this is what you already have.
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A message for Frontline. Wondering what info you have on the awarding of RW's MM? My grandfather Clive Gillespie also won a MM for the same action, and their names were together on the commendation (a copy of which I have). Grandfather kept a war diary, but by 1918 he was writing very little, and the action for which they received their MMs gets no special mention, nor does he mention anyone's name.
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Yes Frontline, Kewgee do have a copy of the commendation. Thank you anyway.