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Title: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: bhunter on Thursday 09 July 15 13:49 BST (UK)
I am trying to find a birth, marriage or death for Catherine McBEAN who was the wife of Duncan CLARK (born about 1777 Dunlichity died 23 May 1855).  She appears to have been alive when he died and is listed as "Catharine Clark maiden name MacBean".  I have them in the 1841 and 1851 censuses  - 1851 living at "Culduthell Muir" and she is 60 born Dunlichity.  I have searched Scotlandspeople and found nothing.   :'(
Thanks
B
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 July 15 16:17 BST (UK)
Hi B

There is a death in 1857 for a CATHRINE (as indexed) MacBean/Clark born c.1787 in Invernesshire. Have you discounted this entry?

Monica  :)
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: bhunter on Thursday 09 July 15 17:38 BST (UK)
I did discount it because it doesn't give the husband's name but I have bought it now anyway.

Thanks for the help.
B
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 July 15 18:05 BST (UK)
Those years, just post the 1855 start of official registration, were a bit of a mix, B. By 1860 onwards, things more settled in terms of form for the registrars. You went from the amazing 1855 certs (you have that by the sounds of it for Duncan's 1855 death) and then 1856 on with reduced info. For a couple of years at this time, you also did not have spouses' details for deaths. A death reg just showed single or married, and if married, spouse not named.

What were the other details on that 1857 death reg? Address and informant?

Monica  :)
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: bhunter on Thursday 09 July 15 18:11 BST (UK)
The husband's death (Duncan Clark) has all the children. Catherine's doesn't have her husband, just Macbean Cathrine (Widow), her parents and informant her son William Clark.  The certificate is rather poor quality too - barely legible.
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 09 July 15 18:28 BST (UK)
Regarding legibilty, contact SP. See here for notes www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=1210 They are great at responding to these types of problems and quickly arrange for certs to be re-imaged. V. often makes a big difference.

William is her son? Do her parents' tie up with what you had? She is showing as a widow which would fit with Duncan having died in 1855. Address? Sounds like it may well be her death reg...

1855 was an extraordiany year in terms of info, which is what you have for Duncan's death. Having said that, apart from the next few years, from then, the Scottish BMDs have so much info that is so useful.

Monica
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: bhunter on Thursday 09 July 15 18:31 BST (UK)
Didn't know who her parents were that's why I needed her death.  I have sent a message about the poor quality.

Thanks
B
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: J11 on Saturday 11 July 15 15:39 BST (UK)
SP have a Cathrn McBean baptised 1797 in Dunlichity.
Family Search give the parents of this Catherine as Angus McBean and Cath. McIntosh
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: bhunter on Saturday 11 July 15 20:28 BST (UK)
Thanks.  The death I have has Alexander Macbean and Janet Mackintosh as parents.  I have found that children, especially sons,  are not the most reliable for family information!  Children's names were Donald, Duncan, John, Margret, Alexander, William, Angus, Catherine, Michael and James.  William was the informant of the death. I don't know if the Scots had set naming patterns for the children.

B


Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 11 July 15 20:43 BST (UK)
There is a recognised Scottish naming pattern order. Not always followed or in order, but I am always amazed how often it was in a way to be helpful with searches.

A number of links on this such as this one www.halmyre.abel.co.uk/Family/naming.htm

Monica
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: bhunter on Sunday 12 July 15 07:35 BST (UK)
THanks - don't think they followed the pattern.
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: J11 on Sunday 12 July 15 10:23 BST (UK)
I have found that children, especially sons,  are not the most reliable for family information! 

You are so right.  I remember my father-in-law struggling to recall his mother's first name!  He came up with Henrietta in the end but still wasn't sure.  I can't imagine what he'd have put down on the form when it came to her parents.
Title: Re: MCBEAN Catherine
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 08 July 16 18:43 BST (UK)
I have found that children, especially sons,  are not the most reliable for family information! 

You are so right.  I remember my father-in-law struggling to recall his mother's first name!  He came up with Henrietta in the end but still wasn't sure.  I can't imagine what he'd have put down on the form when it came to her parents.

When I registered my father's death (Scotland) I was able to give them all the details needed but the Registrar checked everything on computer i.e. if I had not known all the details she would have found them which I thought was good as many people don't realise what info. is needed when registering a death.

There was also a coincidence as the Registrar had the same maiden name as myself.

Annie